Putin´s KGB cheap provocation in Warsaw!!

pic. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/eu...2012-Russia-fans-clash-Poland-fans-match.html

meanwhile "Thousands of Russian anti-government protesters have taken part in a major rally in Moscow to demand fresh elections and a new president." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18405306 5 points go to FCB, 0 go to the Russian - Polish white trash

what would happen it were ....turkey , or south of France.... ?

 

why they are in Poland right new? football...

 

Hey it is football , exchanging some punches is okay .
Why you have to do big story out of nothing ?

 

Because we know what makes things tick and you have not the remotest idea .

Don't venture into territory in which you have no understanding but fondly imagine you have .

 

this time it was way too much politic between punches [video=youtube;v4hBPlf7W08]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4hBPlf7W08[/video]

 

Interesting . A very astute Ukrainian told me yesterday that he thought the result was fixed . At the time I said I thought he was definitely mistaken for several reasons .
Since , I have kept returning to his comment , wondering if there might be some substance to it .
I don't believe the Officials could be accused .
But how many of the players come from Zenit and Moscow CFKA . Because of their backgrounds , players would have to do what they were told -- certainly for those who are Russian .
I have not heard anybody else voice this suggestion , so I am only offering it as a distant possibility for informed discussion .
That is , I am not interested in your personal reaction . INFORMED is the key word .

 

At best the Russian Football Team should be sent back to Moscow.

 

I gather that a reasonable assessment of the numbers of Russian fans in Warsaw was about 15000.
That seems very high , particularly as you might think they would have stayed in Russia for their special commemorative holiday .
Does that suggest that there was much more behind the scenes political involvement than publicly realised ?
Was the assumption that Poland would be well beaten ( every commentator predicted that , self included ) , and that after match violence would be huge and that Russia needed Nashi support in big numbers?

 

heh this is a joke right? last time Wisla 's fans were in Athens they did exactly the same those things happen , next time you are in Russia to support your club do the same .

 

I think you missed his point .
There was no real rioting . It was all kid's stuff .
Why?

 

you have not even bothered to open my link,right?

 

I'd not recommend Polish fans to visit Russia after this fight.

 

Of course nothing. Almost 200 arrested persons and 20 hospitalized.

 

Obviously you are Gay !!!!
Kid's injuries .
Good news is that one more act of Russian barbarism and they will be thrown out of the competition .

 

raymondo I like funny the trolls, but I do not love boors. So chooses words addressing to users please. Ok?

There were arrested 150 Poles and 24 Russians. Do these figures speak something to you? Who are savage barbarians?

 

Read the news . Russia has a suspended 6 point deduction and will be thrown out if there is one more act of barbarism .
The Russians are now hated also in the world of Football .
Get the facts , not the nonsense .

 

I do not speak there were no Russian hooligans. But FIFA deducted six points not because of this fight. As to this mass fight it was initiated by Polish fans. Even the Polish ambassador apologized on TV concerning to this fight. Study normal news instead of those which you want to know only. So figures of arrested persons speak nothing to you, as I understand.

 

Don't tell me to study news -- I would be amazed if there is anybody here within spitting distance of the sources I receive and read every single day .
What you need to next learn is to work without mainstream media . Find the other sources that are more reliable and learn a new language --- the language of sub texts .
Do you really think the Polish apology was Polish initiated ?And on the other hand , what do you imagine Russia was fined for ? Was it for failing to score enough goals or letting footballing standards fall?
Think before quoting official statements and positions . We have moved into a new world where the first rule is --- the bigger the lie , the better .
And don't forget that whether the Smolensk incident was a massacre or not , it had the same result .
The Russian Security Services have established more agents in the Polish hierarchy than is almost believable , with Donald Tusk being an out and out traitor .Suspected strongly even before 10.4 2010 .
Smolensk was not the random evil of a mad Putin . It was effectively an invasion . Poland now does exactly as it is told , if you watch carefully and long enough .
How many times have you ever read one mainstream article even considering such possibilities , however much they may be ridiculed by those that rule?
You haven't have you?
This post alone would get a Russian beaten up and possibly imprisoned on false evidence .
Wake up .

 

In what clinic have you heard this delirium?

 

that means only that Warsaw police generals wanted avoid the political complications with Kremlin + polish police hates the local ultras more then Russian tourists/(free-time ultras)

 

The same one that I treated you in last Summer .
If you have nothing of interest to say , keep quiet .

 

It means also that the majority of Russian hooligans stayed home and did not go to Poland. And Polish ultras attacked ordinary tourists mainly. If there would be more Russian hooligans we'd see other statistics. In any case Poland, with its xenophobic inferiority complexes is not able to organize tournaments of this level. That is clear. There were fears about Ukraine, but in the comparison to Poland, it looks much more attractive.

 

you are as usual , blaming always foreign powers . "Russian hooligans stayed home and did not go to Poland. And Polish ultras attacked ordinary tourists mainly" was it my point? one post before? you are as xenophobic as Poles are . question, dont you see a master plan behind idea to gather at the doors of Polish Army Museum then march to centre of Warsaw via the Poniatowski bridge?

 

Question - why do you name as a march the organized pass of Russian fans and tourists to stadium? Moreover, this passage was agreed with the authorities in Warsaw. Russian fans are responsible for some local fights. For example for the fight with stewart after the match with Czechia. But this is local fights. Similar fights were with participation of Croats, Ukrainians and other fans. Unfortunately this is ordinary phenomenon at football competitions.

As to this grandiose fight. Obviously it was prepared some months prior to the beginning of the championship. So no matter where and how Russian tourists gathered to go to the stadium. This is just an occasion. So they allegedly were offended by the Russian banner which allegedly insulted Poles. A certain idiot has seen duke Pozharsky on this banner. It must be assumed that the Duke who defended Moscow at 1612 well kicked them as now he seems to them everywhere.

This is that banner.




This is Pozharsky's portrait.



I do not know, to what an extent is it necessary to have sick mind to see the portrait of Pozharsky on this banner?