Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If America Attacks Syria?

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  1. Sly Lampost

    Sly Lampost New Member

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    Ah, that Alpha is back, I see.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What's your national debt as we speak, AA? $19tr, give or take a billion? But I guess it'll just be written off when it reaches the nice round figure of $20tr then you can start all over again. Just think - you'll have a full war-chest for your new adventure into Afghanistan.
     
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    Aside fact that overrating of its own strength + underestimating the other is the first step on way to lose any conflict ...
    Aside fact that financial strength of USA is not given to go into any major conflict if not being directly attacked or having a "new 9/11 issue" ...

    The political will to go into a full war for and about Syria is in Washington not given ... not at Obama administration, not at any of the other political powers, including the several candidates to become next president.
    More important, there is no backing of any full war for Syria in the US population existing to make more as Air Strikes, maybe some Special Ops too, but that's it.
    To say it crystal clear, if there is any decision necessary to sent out the troops to ME for Syrian war like in 2003 or 1990 for Iraq, there will be a fat "No" for it ... and the US never won any war with their Air Power alone.

    The Bush administration killed any such willing with their silly war in 2003 and this endless losses after due to own incompetence and here we are not talking for a 3rd class enemy = Assad Forces only which will then be the enemy here! The US will have to go into war with Iran and more important, with Russia too and this is too risky for clear majority!
    So if it becomes more hot in this direction, the opinion of majority will be "hell on Syria, give it the Ivan's and let us stay out of Dodge City!"
     
  4. Sly Lampost

    Sly Lampost New Member

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    Alexander Golts is hardly an independent expert Litwin, and therefore can hardly be described as the "best" expert. For me, his association with the US think tank, the Center for International Security and Arms Control (CISAC) shows he is an asset of the US. CISAC members have included William J Perry, for mer US SecDef, Condoleeze Rice and numerous other from the military and intelligence community.
     
  5. litwin

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    i said Muscovite expert, an yes, USA has many great experts ..why do you say hardly ? what do you think about his prediction? attack on Belarus?
     
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    litwin Well-Known Member

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    i´d say only USA can save Muscovite empire (with D-stan, Siberia, far east) . . whats funny is here that Muscovy knows it and use it.
     
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    Don...the difference between you and I is that I actually hope things get better for the Russian people.

    I have absolutely no animosity toward Russian's and have many Russian friends.

    The best thing that could happen for Russia is for Russia and the U.S. along with Canada to form a PARTNERSHIP.

    Russia has a lot of natural resources but so does North America and besides some Vodka and Caviar....there is NOTHING Russia has that the U.S. and Canada need thus Russia can trust us to help it develop Siberia.

    Russia CANNOT TRUST CHINA!!!

    With Ultra-High U.S. and Canadian Technology....U.S./Canadian Experience and know how along with a tough and hardy Russian workforce this PARTNERSHIP can develop Siberia and create millions of good paying jobs in Russia.

    The MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE for the United States is to help Russia develop a STABLE ECONOMY!!!

    You on the other hand are only interested in fighting.

    We are not.

    We have fought enough.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    We are capable of paying off or National Debt.

    Russia is not.

    It was the United States that FORCED EUROPEAN'S to forgive the massive debt the Soviet Union had incured and owed Europe.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    We have no intention of sending in any ground forces beyond SOCOM Special Forces, CIA Teams and Special Teams into Syria.

    And war is changing.

    We will no longer need Middle Eastern Oil thus holding land is not something we need to do anymore.

    But if necessary we can fly in B-2's and F-22's and drop Non-Nuclear EMP's and completely render entire cities and mechanized forces inert.

    AboveAlpha...p.s....If Russia was to do something REALLY STUPID like invade a neighbor where the U.S. had major interests then as a warning U.S. Cyber Command could shut off the lights in the Kremlin and in all of Moscow.
     
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    litwin Well-Known Member

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    National Debt is the main vata propaganda argument .

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    in Russian: Have you seen american National Debt?

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    Russian's should pay attention to their own massive economic problems.

    But since Putin has complete control of the Russian media no one in Russia pay's attention to their own failing economy.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    I know. It is written in our analytical articles. To divide the planet into north and south. Maybe, but the Russia must keep a knife beside your throat, a gun to your head and a stick of dynamite in your ass always, because the government of US is full of anti-Russian pigs.
     
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    [video=youtube;3bZzM4s0Hgs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bZzM4s0Hgs[/video]
     
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    You are believing Putin Propaganda.

    Do you have any idea how many Russian American's exist in the United States????

    MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS!!!

    No one in the U.S. want's to hurt Russia.

    But Russia needs U.S. help...badly...and you know it!

    We can work our issues out and such a Partnership would be good for all of us.

    AboveAlpha

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    I can't wait for the day that Putin removes Assad from power in return for U.S. help with the Russian Economy.

    That's the day you will understand what Putin is doing.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Putin's calling Obama out and as cowards go he'd win against any bluff thrown Obama's way.
    What Putin won't like is American response to Russian aggression come election day 2016.
     
  16. cerberus

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    It's precisely that kind of arrogant and provocative macho posturing which is going to lead us into serious trouble. Anyway you're not a superpower, you're a country governed by mediocre politicians and military.
     
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    I don't really have any developed views about that Litwin. I only wanted to point out again that I don't see Golts as an independent expert but rather a willing tool of the Neocons.
     
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    Actually Russian foreign debt is low, before Europe imposed sanctions on Russia, Russian central bank had enough reserves in rubles to operate Russian government and entitlements for a year.

    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/external-debt
     
  19. AboveAlpha

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    I will agree as far as the mediocre politicians.....but the U.S. is an economic and military hyperpower.

    It is not a boast.

    It is a fact.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Soviet debt was MASSIVE!!!

    The U.S. forced all Soviet debt holders to forgive that debt so that the Russian economy could start fresh.

    We also paid out over $300 Billion as we bought and destroyed all old Soviet Nuclear, Chemical and Biological Weapons existing in former Soviet states including Russia and WE ARE THERE RIGHT NOW as we are still cleaning up and destroying Biological Weapons and Labs.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If might (or might not?) be 'a fact' but it becomes 'boasting' when you keep on repeating it!
     
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    I was quoting Putin.

    AboveAlpha
     

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