Putin Signs Treaties On Accession Of Former Ukrainian Regions To Russia

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  1. ToughTalk

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    I'm very interested. Seeing as how Ukraine occupies half of donesk which held one of them shame referendums...lol.

    So technically Ukraine has invaded half of a Russian state as we speak according to dipshit Russian ideology.

    Ukraine has nothing to lose and it's clear by this second wave of land grab that midget is not gonna stop so...ya.

    I don't see Ukraine relenting this time around
     
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    What if Russians in the states considered themselves Russian? Does that make the land they live on Russian?

    Russian ideology that everything belongs to them needs to be dealt with. Like yesterday. It's so ****in cancerous
     
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    Good that you got the "dipshit - midget" rant off your chest.. Didn't really glean anything about how I should bet through.. what the odds of Ukraine taking back what has now been annexed ? donesk being just a small fraction -- the front line at the moment.

    So need some parameters .. say in 2 years - Russia still occupying at least 50% of territory it has annexed. Should I bet for or against .. and why :)
     
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    Oh the bet really is what is the midget gonna do? He's kind of backed himself into a corner with his rhetoric and I'm not bluffing about that. Lol..

    So when the reality is that Ukraine doesn't stop. And the west doesn't stop funding them...what's the little angry midget gonna do about it?

    That's the real bet.
     
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    Sure but that is a different Bet . .. but also the same bet in a way... as the both bets will pay or not pay depending on the second.

    Again though .. you have given no advice on how one should bet .. on either .. which is kind of the point of this game mate .. as any moron can blather unsubstantiated wishes .. but ya don't bet on em.
     
  6. ToughTalk

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    In 2 years will Russia still drag this thing out if it continues as a conventional war? Ya. How many Russians can he force to go die in Ukraine as he shuts the borders down preventing them from fleeing?

    But it could also be the case that should this continue to go badly for him as it's evident that Ukraine nor the west respects his declaration of ownership of parts of Ukraine...China, who desperately wants the ****ing economy to get recovered from covid- puts more pressure on the midget to back off.

    Then there is the nuclear option. If Putin uses it, this **** gets real and will be over really ****ing fast.

    So two years of not having a fully recovered economy? Sanctions and the like? No shot. I'd say the chances are rather low.

    Russia would need to convince the world to calm down and accept them taking this land. And while it worked with crimea I'm not sure it's gonna work this time.
     
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    Strange, I picture Zalensky hung up by his heels in Kiev like Mussolini.

    Problem here, is that his posters have to stop listening to the voices in their heads, they lie.

    Hee, hee, hee!
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    I'm the god of this world
    that's what I be
    to give you all of what you see.

    But that's just what I made you think,
    when saying you'll swim
    and never sink.

    Now you should have known,
    it couldn't be true,

    when I made lying a part of you.
    - Jeannette
     
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    They lie in Russian and none us understand them anyway
     
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    You are having trouble understanding the bet .. which is whether Putin will still hold 50% of the annexed territory 2 years from now. The war does not have to go for 2 years to make the bet win. War could stop tomorrow .. like crimea .. Russia still holds 2 years from now .. you win the bet.

    no reason Russia can't have an economy they are doing just fine .. everyone wants Russia's oil and its grain .. paid for the war in extra profits from oil in first few months -- .. Ruble doing just fine..vast majority of the world ignoring the sanctions.

    convincing the world what ? Most of the world is already convinced .. the EU is what is in question .. and they are in a capitulatory mood .. have no desire for escalation.--

    Why would it not work this time ? elections were held .. the popular will to succeed -- manufactured or otherwise matters not -- the border is no longer sovereign ... which is what your hero Vlad said in his speech today ... and what I told you a million times already .. too dense the material message had to go through to penetrate partisan propaganda veneer. bad precedent ..

    "Rules Based Order" -- what rules - when only one side has to follow them .. Told you --- "Do as we say -- not as we do" gonna come back to bite .. don't listen the hard of head.

    Got my $100 dollars here ... how should I bet ?
     
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    The real bet is, just how much more are the American people going to take, when their money which should be spent on infrastructure, is being sent to Ukraine so Zalensky can kill off more of his people to please Soros and the foreign corporations. As of now they own 72% of Ukraine, while the Ukrainians besides being used as cannon fodder, are suffering the lowest standard of living in Europe.
     
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    Well we tried ignoring it once when Putin took Crimea and just pretended that that didn't happen. We let things become status quo but all that did was send a signal to the midget man that he could pull the same playbook and take four more States.

    So really there is no choice. We don't want to be Russian. We don't want Ukraine to be Russian. Ukraine doesn't want to be Russian. Europe doesn't want to be Russian. And you don't want to be ****ing russian. Nobody wants to be f****** Russian! So thankfully Jeanette, your tax dollars are going to help fund further freedom missiles to be shoved up the midgets ass.

    So we thank you in advance
     
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    Wrong in everything. In 3 days Putin will send Zalensky an ultimatum to get out of Russia and then the fireworks will start.

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    Unlike some others in our sphere,
    to me Russia is: 'Mother Dear'.

    So if you try to break her heart
    and try to vilely take her apart,

    through devious means with lies and guile
    which as we know is your style,

    then also know you'll suffer ill
    and find it a very bitter pill.

    As others have who came before
    and didn't know what was in store

    for them.
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    And what do you think zelenskys choices are at this point? What does he have to lose? As inevitably even if he retreats and acknowledged the new borders it's clear that in 8 years time he's going to be fighting Russia again as they destabilize more regions with the Wagner militia group. So bots on these boards can declare "see they were Russian all along"

    He has two choices. Fight Russia now or fight Russia later. I'm going to guess that zelenskys keeps going. Hell. He's already ownership or reclaimed half of donesk so technically he's invaded russia. Balls now in putins court.

    I don't know what Putin is going to do. But if Putin let's a nuke go and we can finally end him.

    I'm happy to find out
     
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    Zalensky has no choice in Ukraine but to resign or be strung up. Russia will take Kharkov and Odessa and open a route to Transnistria. Romania will hold a referendum in Ukraine so they can reunite with their former territory, and Hungary will do the same. The Russyns who I believe were once part of Hungary (not sure) asked Russia if they could join them

    The Poles could work with Russia and take back their lands and Lviv, but with people like Sikorsky who is married to Anne Applebaum of the Wapo and Atlantic fame, I doubt they will be able to do anything reasonable.

    Anyway from what I know, the war will be going to the Baltics and then to the Aegean before it becomes nuclear..
     
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    Or zelenskys just keeps going. He forces putins hand and then NATO steps in and then we can finally have it out.

    Zelenskys has nothing to lose because he's not the invading nation. If he stops he's dead and Ukraine is done. If Russia stops they just go home.

    Russia needs to bring out it's big guns now.
     
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    Russia will step up the usage of bigger guns as necessary .. no need to start carpet bombing just yet mate .. Ukraine focused all its guns in one area and gained some ground .. and good for them .. but rather small in the grand scheme ..

    Perhaps if Ukraine keeps up the aggression against the former Ukrainian states we will see a Russian "Counter-Offensive" .. and with winter just around the corner .. all kinds of fun to be had. No idea where you are getting this sense of urgency from . scaring yourself with ghosts .. crying "finally have it out" like there is some armageddon just over the horizon.

    many more moves to be played on the board until we reach that phase ... winter being the next interesting phase in the saga .. lack of ability of US/EU to entice the rest of the world .. big trouble in the markets .. sanctions hurting the US/EU === costing money money money.. civil unrest at home.. Ukraine becoming more of an afterthought sans the occasional spark .. like the pipeline ..

    Was a rousing speech today by Vlad- should look it up and be educated :)
     
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    Zelensky has Putin on ignore.
     
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    They are going to have too. But so far from what I've seen I'm not impressed
     
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    It appears so many in the US have Putin on ignore, which is a mistake because he is the one telling the truth.

    We all know Biden is an idiot, but when war is involved we can't side with the enemy,

    That's how Dems might win the mid-terms.
     
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    Invading Ukraine was a bad decision that Biden had nothing to do with.
     
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    No one is afraid of Poot daddy except Russians fleeing their country.
     
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    No one on this side blinking.
     
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    Biden is an idiot. But Biden is temporary. A **** stain like Putin...who ISN'T being honest and is after land and resources can stay in power for 20 ****ing years and beyond because the governing system in Russia is ****ed like that. Which is exactly why you live over here.
     

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