Questions for Biden supporters

And yet another example of moochers gonna mooch. Healthcare, like everything else, should cost what it costs, and should be the same, subject of course to competitive pressures from other providers, for everybody. Just like a loaf of bread costs $1.49 for everyone, the same should be true for healthcare.

I'm not saying we shouldn't have insurance against disasters, we should, and it's a good thing. But it should be voluntary, and based on reasonable and customary charges. Just like car insurance, or homeowner's insurance, or any other kind.

Why in the world do you feel entitled to have the government force some stranger to pay your share, in exchange for nothing?

 

So tell me Golem, where are these parents? Are you actually saying the CPS, UNICEF and other international organization are standing by while "Apparently" Trump refuses to release these children to "Assumedly" PARENTS, court orders, CPS, UNICEF and other humanitarian organizations demand their release

Come on man, explain why they are being held if the parents are demanding their release

 

According to U.S. laws, that IS it.

You need to be informed if you pretend to debate a topic like this.

I encourage you to read my sig!

 

No! Only one of those and any President.... maybe even of any leader in the world (who knows...) that implemented a policy based on torturing children is Trump. A despicable human being who will be remembered in history as part of the category that lists the worst criminals to ever occupy the seat of head of state.

 

What steps? Everything I've heard him propose has pretty much already been done, or is ongoing.

Take PPE as an example. Back in the early Covid days, there was a shortage. In fact, when I left the hospital on 4/2 for non-covid related issues, they didn't have a mask to give me for the wheelchair van ride back home. But that's changed. Every hospital within even an unreasonable distance from here has more than they need, and creepy Joe is still talking like it's still last April.

Perhaps he should check in with some of those experts he likes bragging about, they might just fill him in on the realities of what the deal is in the here and now. April is ancient history.

 

Please post in English

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappen...-from-children-at-u-s-mexico-border-1.5772501

 

Wrong. If a person wishes to seek asylum in the US, there are proper ways to do it. Go to an embassy, or even show up at the border (but don't cross it illegally in the middle of the night), and speak with the right immigration official, likely on the NON-US side of the line, and they'll give you instructions and offer you assistance. I don't know where you get the idea that just screaming "asylum!!!" when you get caught where you're not supposed to be doing something you're not supposed to be doing somehow changes those facts.

It doesn't.

But you didn't answer my more important question.

 

Yeah, I'm not a moocher by any means. The poor already get medicaid but healthcare is still so unaffordable for working class people like myself. I pay all this money in taxes and I want to actually get something for it.

 

If you don't want a stranger to pay for your healthcare, then don't get health insurance.

 

Why are you trying to debate something you know nothing about? What is the purpose?

No! You cannot apply for asylum in a U.S. Embassy.

Your post reveals that you know nothing about any of this.

Again: Read my sig!

 

I've been in the insurance industry for 30 years, I saw 10 people lose their insurance for every 1 person that got insurance, I saw employers laying off people because their premiums went up 25% first year, 35% second year 22% third year, 15%, 10% and on and on. Young people rates went up 100% first year. Not to mention plans that had $500 deductibles and another $1000 out of pocket move to $7100 out of pocket, affordable, give me a break. But, be fooled if you must.

 

You COMPLETELY missed my point.

Which is that you, along with EVERYONE else, should buy their own insurance (if they choose to), with their own money, based on rates that are "reasonable and customary", and derived from such things as actuarial tables and other insurance company nerd stuff that is above my pay grade. But most assuredly, it should NOT be based on income or net worth. Those things are completely unrelated.

I get your point that you want something for your taxes. So do I. As it is I'm paying to educate total stranger's kids, and get nothing in return except another payment due next year for the same damn thing, except it goes up every year. But you should also carry your own weight, and pay fair rates for YOUR health insurance, and that of your family's. It's not right to expect government to collect those fees from a stranger at the point of a gun, just because you (or someone else) perceives them to be "rich".

 

Not relevant, as it was a hypothetical example. You know where else you cannot apply for asylum? In the middle of the desert after you just got arrested by border patrol for illegally crossing the border. Wherever the right place is, it's up to the would be asylum seeker to find that out, and to do it the right way. At the risk of being repetitive, crying "But, but... ASYLUM!!!" after getting arrested for committing a crime does not amount to a get out of jail free card.

We absolutely MUST get control of our borders, and deporting every last illegal on American soil should be a top priority. After they serve their jail time, that is. Continuing to coddle them, provide them with driver's licenses, having "sanctuary cities", allowing them to vote LEGALLY in local elections, and making it next to impossible to catch them if they illegally register to vote in elections they're NOT eligible to vote in, providing them with in-state tuition, welfare, education, EBT, and other benefits will only cause the problem to continue, and probably increase.

If you want to live here, great. I certainly understand why, it is the best place on the planet to live. But do it the RIGHT way, or don't do it at all. What we DON'T need is a bunch of illiterate people who think nothing of breaking the law just because they feel like it.

 

The problem with everyone paying a flat rate for healthcare is that its unaffordable for poor people. Thats why we have Medicare and Medicaid and we should also help working people too. Healthcare should be a flat percent of income not a flat fee. Unless you are high income, you are getting a better deal paying for healthcare this way. We already have taxes to help people pay for healthcare, school, roads, fire department etc. If you don't like tax money being spent on healthcare for the vulnerable, you can vote against it, or you can live in another country.

 

Not relevant??? It's what we're discussing.

Oh my God! One more time... YES! You CAN apply for asylum after you just got arrested by border patrol for illegally crossing the border. You most absolutely can apply!

I ask you again to read my sig!!!

 

That's a fine anecdote, but I'd prefer some actual data.

 

What does it cost you now, how much are your deductibles, do you also have to put money into a healthcare account??? What are your co-pays like, how is the quality of care and do you have an MD who has a US medical degree and can you pronounce their name. A family plan now can cost you $20,000 dollars, this didn't happen before Obamacare. If you like your Obamacare you can keep it!!!! Good Luck with that.

 

WOW!!!! That's some KOOOOL Aid. OK enjoy.

 

Its a very long way of saying that:
1. Obamacare helped out the poor and sick by shifting costs to the general population and helping them pay.
2. Bidencare will build on Obamacare to also help working class people pay for healthcare too and give them a public option.

Bidencare is really what Obama was promising in the 2008 election but wasn't able to do.

 

That's nice.

 

Thanks. Now go ahead and vote for Biden so you can save thousands of dollars on healthcare.

 

We have amazing health insurance right now. When we were relying on my company, it was ridiculous. My husband's company takes good care of us.

We started going with the stripped-down/major medical plan a few years ago and putting the savings into an HSA. Best decision we ever made. Those platinum plans are not worth it. My husband is dealing with an issue right now, and the $5,000 we saved in the last four years has saved us.

 

There's so much to admire about your complete lack of sense of humor....

 

Locking us down until the economy surrenders.

 

Because its not for nothing.