Quiz: Racism vs Discrimination vs Prejudice

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Here is a little quiz to help people understand the difference. But before that, allow me to explain

    Racism: is the oppression by the dominant ethnic group of other ethnic groups. In the U.S. the dominant ethnic group in our country is white Christians (and some would add males) Anthropologists and sociologist tell us that this is systemic. Even though individual racism exists, technically that would be more adequately called "prejudice".

    Discrimination: the recognition that one thing is different from another. This can be racial prejudice, or simply identifying that two things are different.

    Prejudice: Negative discrimination of a person based on their ethnicity. The difference with racism is that this prejudice is not systemic.

    When a white person discriminates against a black person for the only reason that they are black, that is racism. black person discriminates against white person for being white, that is not racism. That is discrimination (prejudice, in this case). When a black person with equal

    Let's get on with it...

    1- Two men, one white and one black, apply for a job. They are equally qualified. The employer picks the white candidate because of his ethnicity
    A- Racism B- Discrimination C- Prejudice

    A. Clearly

    2- Two men, one white and one black, apply for a job. They are equally qualified. The employer picks the black applicant because the company has a policy of Affirmative Action
    A- Racism B- Discrimination C- Prejudice

    B. This is positive discrimination.

    3- Two men, one white and one black, apply for a job. They are equally qualified. The employer picks the black candidate because the HR person doesn't like white people.
    A- Racism B- Discrimination C- Prejudice

    C. If you chose A, read the definition of racism above.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I disagree with your definitions and your quiz answers

    • Racism is a belief that one race is superior to another
    • Discrimination is prejudicial treatment based on membership of a specific group
    • Prejudice is a preconceived idea
    Quiz Answers:
    1 is racial discrimination
    2 is racial discrimination
    3 is racial discrimination
     
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    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    Assuming the employer is white in all three scenarios, but then again, it really does not matter, it is probably prejudice. However, both being equally qualified, assuming they know what they are doing, I would say so.

    however, let's say in the scenario both men are equally qualified, but the black person has better communication skills and the white person has better business connections that can bring in more money. Apply that standard in those three scenarios of yours and see if you come up with "none of the above."
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are trying precise definitions to concepts which are far from precise. Just another example of your binary thinking.
     
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    I also think your definitions are variously flawed, somehow managing to be both too limited and too broad at the same time.

    Like pretty much all words, these have multiple definitions depending on context and intent. In any kind of difficult or controversial topic like this, words are often twisted or used in unconventional ways to better work with their predetermined conclusions (which you could be accused of here).

    Because of all of that, I generally think it's not a good idea to focus on forcing any and all situations and circumstances, real or hypothetical, into a small set of strict definitions. The whole area of discussion here is, unfortunately, much wider and more complex than that would permit.
     
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    @Golem, do you thin preference equals prejudice?
     
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    I disagree. Racism isn't defined by the relative size of the group; blacks can have racist attitudes to whites is just as racist as the example you cite.
    Weeeellllll! Words have connotations and denotations. <-link There's what the dictionary says, and how the word is used in communication.
    Why only ethnicity?
    Wrong. It's racism in each direction - an unfavorable attitude base on race is racism.
    . Ah, the Gospel According to Golem.
     
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    That's a good definition and makes a good point. Discrimination just means recognizing (or imagining) difference. It may be positive or negative.

    It means a preconceived idea. It too could be negative or positive.
     
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    Your complete post was over my head. But when you mentioned "discrimination" was "simply identifying that two things are different" you clearly described the liberal MSM when reporting their "news". They are quick to tell us someone is the first black or the first female or the first Hispanic, or the first lesbian, etc. The liberal MSM are masters at dividing our country.
     
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    What always gets to me is when during elections the media always talks about "the black vote", "the hispanic vote", etc, as if everyone of a particular skin tone or ethnicity votes the same way. You'll hear them say "this resonates with black voters" or "this gets white female votes out to vote" etc. Its like the actual issues and motivations of these people don't matter. Only their demographics do.
     
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    Not sure what you disagree with. They are all racial discrimination. But they differ as to the underlying motive for the discrimination. One is systemic, the second is positive discrimination, the third is negative discrimination.
     
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    No I don't. Preference refers to liking one thing over another. Prejudice refers to motive why you like one thing over another.
     
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    Why would anyone accept a definition that makes one ethnic group out to be the bad guy? There's only two reasons that I can think of. It is someone of a different ethnic group that hates the majority ethnic group, or it is someone of the same ethnic group but hates their own ethnicity.

    It is a stupid definition that does nothing but divide and is racist in and of itself. Racism is a belief that race is a fundamental determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. Period. Any sociologist or anyone else that says otherwise is racist.
     
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    It has nothing to do with the size of the group. It has to do with the dominance of the group. In South Africa during Apartheid, blacks made up the majority of the population. But whites people were the dominant group. It's simply systemic.

    A black person may have prejudice against white people. But racism involves systemic discrimination. The right has invented what they first called "reverse racism", and are now trying to push the same as just "racism". But this is simply an attempt by white supremacists to defend racism.
     
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    A motive to like one thing over another may be experienced or social strata or socioeconomic environment. the difference between prejudice and preference is one is stated while the other is not, but the motive is there nonetheless
     
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    "Prejudice" always has a negative connotation in the mind of the average English speaker.
     
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    There is no such thing as "liberal MSM".
     
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    Or a third reason: maybe.... just maybe... racists ARE bad guys.

    However, the CRT approach is that there are no bad guys. Just a bad system.
     
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    Yes. But "preference" makes no reference to the motive even when a motive exists. "Prejudice" refers to a motive. And it even aludes to the fact that that motive, whatever it is, is not rational.
     
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    Golem, racism is a thought process, a way of thinking. Acting on it is discrimination. Racists, be the white, brown, red, black and yellow don’t do anything legally wrong until they act on it.

    An example of racist thoughts is that blm chick saying whites are subhuman. But Just by saying that she hasn’t really harmed anyone except her own reputation by feeding into the prejudices of others who now have no respect for her. If she treats white people differently because of their whiteness then that’s discrimination.

    If you think about it we all discriminate. When you go to bars looking to score, do you hit on the obese chick in the wheelchair? Everyone has preferences, I’m sure you’re no different.
     
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    What this thread is proving to me is all that equity the left keeps hollering about is discriminatory and prejudiced. Think about.
     
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    I disagree.

    It is prejudice to presume that an Asian person is good at math.
     
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    Nonsense. No "systemic" to it. The system doesn't create of foster racism.

    Hogwash. Again, there's no SYSTEM, it's private individuals and groups. Blacks attacking Jews or Asians is just as racist as KKKers burning crosses.
     
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    Real racists yes, they are. But your definition makes every person that is a part of the "dominate group" out to be racist. And that is just BS, divisive, and racist.

    Only if you are talking about the CRT approach that is in colleges taught to those aspiring to be lawyers and politicians wanting to avoid racist policies.
     
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    Oh yeah, how silly of me. The MSM will sometimes tell us what a "conservative" person said, or what was reported on a "conservative" news program -- but they never use the word "liberal" to describe anything or anyone. If you are liberal you note the conservatives but think of yourself as moderate -- LOL. Remember the reason "moderate" and "netural" and "professional" CBS anchor and 44 year employee Dan Rather was fired?
     
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