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Read It: Here's the Supreme Court's Basis for Overruling Roe and Casey

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Is it? Sooooo - woman are responsible if they are raped? They are responsible if the male promises to use contraception and completely bungles it? They are responsible if the male practices “stealthing”?

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    And the majority of abortions occur under eight weeks
     
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    Soooo - when is it threatening enough to warrant abortion?
     
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    I just said, life of the mother. Bear in mind this isn't my position just what I think any pro-life person's should be.
     
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    I have just posted thread on this - excellent review from the NJEM (premier medical journal). Is abortion allowed when the woman has only a 10% chance of dying or do we have to wait until that risk reaches 90-100%?
     
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    Well unless you support abortion up till birth, then you too have an exception.
     
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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    Uh, maybe YOU can show me a distinction between an abortion due to rape and an abortion due to consensual sex ???

    :) Well, it now seems like you can tell the difference between sexual intercourse and abortion....that's good.

    Now, how is a ZEF conceived by rape any different than a ZEF conceived by consensual sex?

    Why is there a "minor" difference?

    What is the difference?

    Are they marked somehow? Not quite human? A different species? Guilty of a crime?
    What?
     
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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    Uh, you didn't say that about slaves



    No, just a little reminder...;)

    :) Yes, do call all my posts "strawmen" because YOU can't address nor refute them :)
     
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    What the percent is is irrelevant.....it happens..
     
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    Pill or surgical
     
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    Then why all the resistance to the Mississippi 15 week limit?
     
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    It is difficult for me to view the life as legitimate if it is a result of such a despicable crime.
     
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    "FORM" as in document?
     
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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    Now, how is a ZEF conceived by rape any different than a ZEF conceived by consensual sex?

    Why is there a "minor" difference?

    What is the difference?

    Are they marked somehow? Not quite human? A different species? Guilty of a crime?
    What?

    Uh, what crime did the ZEF commit?
     
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    Why does the mother get to kill an innocent just to save herself?.

    She knew she was sick, or likely to get sick. She was the shameless hussy who tempted an innocent man to commit a MORTAL SIN and thus risk his IMMORTAL SOUL. She SHOULD die and burn in Hell forever that the precious and sacred FETUS may live a few days to die of starvation when the Republicans will authorize no money for food for it. (let it get a job on its own) Thus is the judgment of the Merciful Jesus.

    SAY HALLELUJAH
     
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    When did I mention a crime committed by the ZEF?
     
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    Right here:

    chris155au said: ↑
    It is difficult for me to view the life as legitimate if it is a result of such a despicable crime.""""""""""""


    You seem to think it's then OK to kill the ZEF even though IT never committed a crime....so it appears you think it did since it is somehow " different"..

    FoxHastings said: ↑
    Now, how is a ZEF conceived by rape any different than a ZEF conceived by consensual sex?

    Why is there a "minor" difference? UNANSWERED

    What is the difference?

    Are they marked somehow?     Not quite human? A different species? Guilty of a crime?
    What?
     
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  19. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Where does the Constitution say that women are 2nd class citizens if the State there in says so?
     
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    98% of Finnish abortions are done with pills.
     
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    You may not need an abortion, but some half million Americans feel they do.
     
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    Being the bigger, stronger sex, I always understood that men are the logical targets to be drafted into the military. It never occurred to me to take this reality and then conclude that men are therefore second class citizens. In reality, men are drafted because biologically they are the fighters.

    Similarly, it makes perfect sense that a potential law in a state against abortion, is similarly due to women being biologically predisposed to being the ones that have babies.

    Both of the above laws are based on biological realities, rather than some nonsensical claim of it making them second class citizens.

    The sun rising in the East is NOT an affront against the West. Rather it is an observation of simple, and undeniable reality.
     
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    None of the above has any bearing whatsoever as to why women should be prohibited from removing a certain type of unwanted growth from their own body
     
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    Nor was that the aim of the above. You are clearly arguing against a point that was not raised.

    Strawman much?
     
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    It's the only point of the whole controversy, anything else is specious sophistry.
     
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