Reagan has a word about Iran's nukes

A lot of Americans, as per usual, are pissing their pants about some other country getting the same grunt as the US (where 'the same' means a tiny fraction of). This time its Iran and the fact it may have nukes soon. They are worried that the Iranians will use. Why? Well because they are Iranians, and that's what Iranian's do. So what does America have to do? They have to bomb the crap out of them! Well this is the typical propaganda that all imperial systems, like the US, spew when they attempt to rally the masses into a frenzy of mindless and illogical support.

BUT how about we take a word from Ronnie Reagan? He knew why countries get nukes and he knew why NO ONE would EVER use them. Its called MAD - Mutually Assured Destruction. If anyone, Iran, US whatever, tried to use nukes, everyone would be blown away - that's the whole point of them! Its a Mexican stand off that a assured form of self destruction!

Have a read and wise up. Dont let Israel start another war for such a stupid reason. Didnt your mum ever tell you the spider is more scared you then you are of it?

"What do we mean when we speak of nuclear deterrence? Certainly we do not want such weapons for their own sake. We do not desire excessive forces, or what some people have called overkill. Basically, it is a matter of others' knowing that starting a conflict would be more costly to them than anything they might hope to gain. And, yes, it is sadly ironic that in these modern times it still takes weapons to prevent war. I wish it did not."
http://www.nuclearfiles.org/menu/ke...tegy/article-reagan-deterrence_1982-11-23.htm

 

He didn't propose nuking anybody.

 

Where did I say he did? Where did the Iranians? You know Reagan thought the Russians were determined to nuke the US. Only once he started talking to them did he realize how completely wrong he was.

 

Just to qualify this link, I am not now nor I ever been a fan of either Ronald Reagan or Ron Paul. However, some of the points the uploader makes are interesting..


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Good post, but you have to assume that the idiots will actually read what Reagan said.

 

Correct. And then I have to assume they will acknowledge it and not just ignore it and return to their deluded fantasies.

 

Looks like New Hampshire tossed Orly Taitz out on her ear.

How could anyone be as stupid as that woman?

 

MAD worked with the Soviet Union and a host of other countries.....because there wasnt a whack job Mullah in the Kremlin calling the shots or pushing the buttons. Replace common sense with religous fanaticism and MAD is doomed to fail.

If Iran goes Nuclear, there will be a Mushroom cloud, and its not going to be delivered via missle. Leaving Iran plausible deniability.... and standing.
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Is the dumbing down of America really worth pandering to Israeli paranoia?

 

When you're hardcore conservative and Bill O'Rielly calls you a nut, then and only then, you know he's telling the truth.

 

These crackpots aren't hardcore conservatives... they are just crackpots.

Where are the real intellectual Republicans like the father of modern Conservatives William F. Buckley?

He must be rolling over in his grave.

 

Just take a look at our resident birthers Margot...

 

Buckley junior was pretty dumb.

 

I can't believe that any Americans.. conservative or liberal would be caught up in this birther stupidity.

They are disinterested in the issues we face.. just delusional and unable to deal with the facts.

 

It isn't even that-it's nothing less than racism directed, via a global recession, to Obama's door. Because, as we now know, Obama is the source of all America's ill, ever. Probably the whole world's too...
And so the birthers desperately scabble around in people's dustbins in search of anything, anything, however spurious or ludicrous, in their pathetic attempts at discreditation.
Yes, Obama has his faults-I can't think of a former president who didn't-but to ascribe to him everything that is wrong with America is, frankly, at the limit of absurdity.

 

Well.. its as fantastic as blaming Katrina on HAARP or on Gays in NOLA..

 

Take some time to read his writings.. He wasn't a Neocon...

 

Ya see, if Iran gets nukes, they won't be easily conquerable. And we have to be able to conquer with impunity.

 

Sure. Senor may have been smart, but junior was a bit of an ignoramus, well at least to the extent he didnt know how to pick his battles:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYlMEVTa-PI"]Noam Chomsky vs. William F. Buckley Debate : Part 1 of 2 - YouTube[/ame]

 

Iran nuking Israel would mean certain doom for Iran. While I think the Iranian leadership is chock full o' crazy, I don't honestly believe they are stupid and suicidal. The world would not sit on it's hands after such an atrocity.

Israel can take care of itself anyways, they are ranked number 10 in world military powers... yes tiny little Israel... number 10 of all world nations. Even if Israel were nuked, they could still retaliate... and who would object?

We don't have proof that Iran would undoubtedly use a nuke on Israel if they were to develop one, we don't even know for a fact that Iran is developing one. For all we know, if Iran is developing a nuke, it's true intention is a deterrent against future Western invasion.

A preemptive strike is a bad idea in this case. We have no way of knowing the consequences of a preemptive strike, we don't know that attacking Iran now will result in less death and destruction than just leaving things be. Let's not forget about Iraq already.

 

That is EXACTLY the root of this debate.

 

Reagan that foreign police god.
Everything he did worked out well, didnt it?

 

So this shows how the point on deterrence is wrong... how?

 

It shows that the fact Reagan said something doesnt make it true.

 

The unelected Globalists are going to continue to exploit their influence in elite circles, in an effort to direct nations such as the U.S and it's allies towards the destruction of nations which cannot defend themselves in an effort to secure arms deals and greater influence on natural resources such as gas and oil, until they meet their match, and when they do, be it in the form of China, Russia or both, those very same Globalist elites, those very same puppeteers of our western democratic politicians will be the first in the most advanced secret fallout shelters ever built, while the rest of humanity either fight for their freedom or fight and die to secure globalist aims , under the guise of justified cause, justified by the very politicians who's strings are being tugged by the globalists.

The only way to defeat the globalist is revolution, or else everyone else will suffer at the expense of the globalists and their corporate backers.