Reagan has a word about Iran's nukes

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  1. pakman012

    pakman012 New Member

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    You are making the assumption that the Iranian leaders care more about religious reward than clinging to their power. If this was the case, and they were truly ready to die, why wait for the nuclear program to develop? Why not lead the charge in a suicidal ground invasion of Israel right away? No, I think the Ayatollah and "President" care far too much about their comfortable dominion to ever initiate certain war with either the U.S. or Israel.
     
  2. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    I think you have a legitimate point.
     
  3. OJLeb

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    Not the influence, the almost daily threats against Iran for something nobody could prove. Iraq didn't have nukes, and you can bet Bush knew that because if Iraq did actually have nukes no way America would of invaded to remove them. It's worked for North Korea.

    Now I'm no expert but quoting Bush? Lol... Not a smart move if you're trying to make a serious point...

    When did AIPAC become a political party in America?

    Well the 20 year old seems to be contributing something to the thread while you post meaningless "nonsense" in reply...

    It's not that hard to portray the US as bad.

    Salam :)
     
  4. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    About the same time it started running the Calgary Stampede. Don't waste my time.
     
  5. OJLeb

    OJLeb New Member

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    Be honest. With yourself, if not me.

    AIPAC has more influence in American politics and foreign policy than Obama even.

    Don't waste my time.

    Salam :)
     
  6. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    The constant attacks from Muslims and western leftists all come down to Israel. America can have peace if it allows you to eat the Jews. America will never have peace from you.
     
  7. OJLeb

    OJLeb New Member

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    What does this have to do with AIPAC's grip on American politics?

    Nobody wants to "eat the Jews" and that is completely random.

    "Israel", through the help of AIPAC, will be putting American lives in danger because they don't like Ahmadinejad. How does it make you feel, that your government is willing to put your people's lives at risk for something they have no business in? How another country can manipulate your government into doing pretty much anything it wants, without any concern for the American people?

    Where's America's sovereignty?

    Salam :)
     
  8. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    America is already under attack by American and foreign Muslims. Another attempted attack occurred this week. Americans are hardening their attitudes toward Muslims. If Americans die, they will not die alone.
     
  9. OJLeb

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    Haha... You keep avoiding the topic hey?

    Muslims don't have control of America's government. AIPAC and the Zionists do.

    You keep going off on random things to avoid talking about America's control by AIPAC and Zionist lobby.

    Americans won't be dying for America, that's for sure.

    Salam :)
     
  10. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    The golden age for American jews is over. They are under constant assault from Muslims who have immigrated to America and Canada. You can't prove your assertion that AIPAC controls America. Has it occurred to you that America and Islam are at war?
     
  11. OJLeb

    OJLeb New Member

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    What?

    Sure I can. Why is America sanctioning Iran right now? Why is America considering going to war with Iran right now? Why does America send millions in military aid to "Israel"? Why does America veto every UN resolution again "Israel"? Why did America vote no on the Palestinians UNESCO bid? Why did America threaten to veto the Palestinians UN bid? Why did American congress give Netanyahu numerous standing ovations during his speech to Congress - not even Obama got that much admiration by American Congress? Why do American politicians spend their summers in "Israel"? Why does America constantly, unconditionally support "Israel" more than any other country? Why is support for "Israel" stressed so much by all candidates for American presidency, always?

    Do I need to go on?

    Islam and America aren't at war. Islam isn't a physical entity that you can go to war with, and America hasn't declared war on the entire Muslim population of the world... Yet. But I'd AIPAC wants them to...

    Salam :)
     
  12. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    Protest all you want. America is going to make sure that Palestine isn't recognized by the UN Security Council.

    Of course America and Islam are at war. Otherwise we wouldn't be killing your brothers and sisters in the Ummah.
     
  13. OJLeb

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    Lol exactly my point. Not because of American interests, but "Israeli"/Zionist/AIPAC interest.

    Because AIPAC controls America do you see now?

    Unless you can answer all those questions in my previous post.

    It has more to do with AIPAC, oil, colonialism, imperialism, warmongering, etc not much to do with Islam right now. It's pretty impossible to declare war on somebody's religious faith...

    Salam :)
     
  14. Albert Di Salvo

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    Not at all. Americans generally don't like Arabs. You folks kill Americans. What do you expect?
     
  15. OJLeb

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    Lol every post you avoid discussing AIPAC atleast try and hide it better?

    You speak for all Americans now? And the killing is mutual.

    Salam :)
     
  16. Albert Di Salvo

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    AIPAC is the Arab bogeyman like Muslims are the American bogeyman.

    AIPAC is an interest and lobbying group. Americans generally have liked Jews because they fit in with us. Muslims don't.
     
  17. OJLeb

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    This has nothing to do with American Muslims. If AIPAC is just a lobby group explain why they have so much influence over American politics? Explain all those questions in my other post.

    Very wishful thinking.

    Salam :)
     
  18. Albert Di Salvo

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    American Jews are American citizens who have the right under our First Amendment to organize, lobby and influence our govt. The money is American money, not foreign money. Are you suggesting that America deprive its Jewish citizens of their constitutional rights?

    There are Muslims in America, but their loyalty is to the Ummah.
     
  19. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    Its more efficient. Just put quote bracket things at the beginning and end of each line.

    Could you elaborate, preferably with example, if not specific then general overviews of points I make?
     
  20. OJLeb

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    Wait, so American Muslims aren't American because they are loyal to the Islamic community BUT AIPAC and Zionists who are loyal to "Israel" and not America are Americans?

    Atleast you admit AIPAC influences the governments. That's just the beginning, but its progress. Just take a look: http://www.aipac.org/legislative-agenda

    AIPAC says oppose the Palestinian bid. America says okay. AIPAC says sanction Iran. America says okay. AIPAC says give AMERICAN TAXPAYERS MONEY to "Israel". America says okay. You are right, the money is defidently Americans.

    But you should have no problem if say, oh CAIR, had this control over America. Because thats their right under the first amendment. Instead of US of AIPAC you could be Saudi America. Amerabia. United States of Islam.

    Salam :)
     
  21. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    LOL And as I said it did nothing to substantiate your case.
     
  22. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    You admitted that you didn't watch the video. You have no idea what is in the video.
     
  23. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    At that point in time. But once you gave me the second video I watched both.

    Get others to watch and then get them to tell me after they read my response. Your entire argument was guilt by association.
     
  24. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    I don't believe you've watched the main video. If you had you would have mentioned it last night.
     
  25. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    Why dishonest? After all the sales talk you elect whoever you deem most suitable to lead your nation. The American public are not responsible for what happens next-all you can do is hope that the person elected will stick to his electoral promises. If he doesn't and his administration's foreign policy is at odds with what you voted on, then there's that clear separation of Americans, the people, from America's, the government's, actions.
    The government is not the America or Americans it claims to represent, in most cases. America is not unique in this.
     

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