Realistically speaking, is there anything that would convince Trump base there wasn't massive fraud?

Between election observers and international observers saying there was no mass fraud. The Department of Homeland Security saying there was no mass fraud. Every court review saying there was no mass fraud. Every independent investigator saying there was no mass fraud. The ballot canvassing results saying there was no mass fraud. Is there any hypothetical source that could look into the election results and come to the conclusion there wasn't mass voter fraud that they would accept?

I don't think there is, the denial starts with the election results, and ends with anything and everything else that comes to the conclusion that Trump lost. We're now at the point where they won't accept what any of the news shows on Fox say about there not being massive fraud, but are now only accepting the talk shows who suggest there was fraud. As soon as any of the talk shows cast doubt on massive fraud, they won't trust those shows either.

I can say this much, if the ballot canvassing process showed a significant inconsistency in how the ballots were filled out, and how they were counted, that would absolutely convince me that there was mass fraud. If the DHS concluded there was mass fraud, that would absolutely convince me that there was mass fraud. If any state or federal court came to the conclusion that there was mass fraud, that would absolutely convince me that there was fraud. I can understand people who might say they will remain skeptical until the ballot canvassing process is completed, there is room for rational skepticism, but denying anything and everything that doesn't produce the results you are wanting isn't rational

 

the Trump base knows there was no massive fraud, they are just afraid Trump's ego is too fragile to say it out loud - it's sad really

 

Not only did trump lose, now the death toll from all of those trump rallies will take them to the pits of hell. Red states especially have some very dark days ahead.

Trump has a lot of blood on his hands with a lot more coming.

 

Of course there is if a full audit and hand re-count of Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Arizona.

 

But but but - there is a vaccine!!

 

And not the other states?

what if they found fraud among TRUMP voters? After all he asked His followers to vote twice

 

It may help. At least some of our emergency medical workers can be protected. Already we are seeing fatigue in areas hard hit, like El Paso and Fargo. That alone is a problem. But emergency workers tend to drop like flies because they can get very large doses of the virus when exposed. They get very sick and die quickly. If we start losing the emergency workers, everyone is in danger and not just those with Covid. So while the vaccine isn't going to protect the average person, it may help to protect our most critical front-line workers.

The trouble with that is that we are already into the exponential rise in cases nationally. We have a lot of hell to endure before the vaccine can help anyone.

 

Are you suggesting the Trump base will accept the results of those?

 

Hell no. But a lot could happen. Trump may flee the country. He said he would if Biden wins.

The one thing is that a lot of his base is old and may not even be around in 4 years. As Paul Begala pointed out when commenting on the average age of Fox viewers...

Fox News is God's waiting room

 

That's the thing, it's one thing to demand recounts, investigations, and legal hearings, it's another to demand all of those things but still not accept any of them when they to not produce the outcome you want. What this ultimately boils down to is an unwillingness to accept that Trump lost the election

 

they know Diaper Donald lost fair and square, they just don't want to accept it yet

 

Trump admitted yesterday it would not be here until April, course last time he told us by the election, so who knows

 

Why should you care if we accept the results or not? We are the deplorables. We certainly didn't give a damn when you didn't accept the results of the 2016 election.

 

No, not conceding is pretty much exclusively a Trump thing. Some candidates have brought forward legal challenges, but they always accept the final outcome. Trump is an exception to all of this

Hillary Clinton 2016


Mitt Romney 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5e8THBN9WU
John McCain 2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvgqRKYapU8
John Kerry 2004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCii7Fhiudc
Al Gore 2000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq5YdkYSyEE
Bob Dole 1996
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeBrjjGX-EY
George Bush 1992
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMLmaZ8hUwM
Michael Dukakis 1988
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D8QwO96D38
Walter Mondale 1984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I8Z1H4CMSY
Jimmy Carter 1980
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn53KENwqUU
Gerald Ford 1976
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ysuhNov6Ow&t
George McGovern 1972
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0TjLc93alg
Herbert Humphrey 1968
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tee5W4XTY5s
Barry Goldwater 1964
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0Z3rWEcko8
Richard Nixon 1960
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn1FOyaM_c4

 

Um that is Hillary. You were asking the people who voted for Trump to accept the election results. The people who voted for Hillary did not accept that election. I have had 4 straight years of "NOT MY PRESIDENT" from the MSM, Democratic lawmakers and liberals. If Biden steals this election, this is exactly what you will get from our side. We will play by the rules you have given us. It should not bother you. We never cared what your side said about Trump.

 

I'm not sure where you were 4 years ago, but Clinton conceded the morning after the election. Nothing from the Clinton side rises to the level of what we are now seeing from Trumpists (including Trump himself). The denial is greater, and it is happening all of the way up the ladder and into the Oval Office.

I'm sure you can find a few liberals on the street who were as bad as Trump himself has been about accepting the loss . . . that's not a brag, bro.

 

If we are talking hypothetical, the only source would be Trump himself. His base will believe anything that Trump says. But that is just hypothetical. Trump will never accept reality.

 

You? What makes you say that? "Deplorables" was a qualifier that Hillary gave to the highest level Trump operatives in his campaign. Do you fancy yourself as a high level Trump operative?

Please consider the possibility that you just might be daydreaming.

 

Yea right..

I suppose your impression was created by the MSM rewriting history again. Hillary Clinton is an amoral narcissist, just like Bill, Joe, Obama, Jeb, George and Donald.

 

Good. Then we can just IGNORE you when you spout off about Biden.

 

You may want to listen. My predictions tend to come true. I wouldn't want you to be surprised when he does the things I predict and opposed to what you want.

 

Yep please note it is the observers inn the contested states complaining that for large stretches if time they weren't actually allowed to observe in a meaningful way that is part 9f the issue.

 

Yes, to let the investigative and judicial processes go unimpeded. If the supreme court rules that there isn't enough fraud to affect the election, then the right, including me, will recant. Until then, any attempt to keep the process from playing out, is evidence that there is something to hide, or at least deep down even the left is afraid of the results and therefore deep down knows there is a lot of fraud but is uncertain just as to if it is sufficient to effect the election.

 

you do know what the deplorables were right, don't think you want to call yourself that

 

Nope. I'm done listening to Trump kool-aid gibberish. Four damn long years is enough!