Realistically speaking, is there anything that would convince Trump base there wasn't massive fraud?

In an election where anywhere over 100 million people vote, there is always a possibility of certain individuals attempting voter fraud, and when these incidents are discovered said individuals should be held accountable. Fortunately, one of the convenient things about voter fraud is the more incidents there are, the easier it is to prove that voter fraud occurred. The notion that the outcome of the election was determined by voter fraud appears to be completely made up, and does not seem to have any evidence to support it. There would need to be hundreds of thousands of incidents in Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, Nevada, and Pennsylvania. And all of those incidents of voter fraud would need to be around 100% in Biden's favor.

Lets be perfectly clear here, the claims that such fraud occurred are completely baseless. Also, what you said about DHS only ruling out foreign interference is false. To quote the DHS agency directly, what they said was:

"There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised

Other security measures like pre-election testing, state certification of voting equipment, and the U.S. Election Assistance Commission’s (EAC) certification of voting equipment help to build additional confidence in the voting systems used in 2020.

While we know there are many unfounded claims and opportunities for misinformation about the process of our elections, we can assure you we have the utmost confidence in the security and integrity of our elections, and you should too. When you have questions, turn to elections officials as trusted voices as they administer elections.”

 

You cannot force us to believe Biden is legit. I don't understand why it matters to you. You never gave a damn about our opinion before, why would you care now? It is not like we are going to riot and burn stuff. We will continue working at our jobs, raising our families and paying taxes.

 

True. Your life. Live it as you wish. If it includes emotional attachment to politics, so be it.

Some people think the moon landing was fake, that Bush was behind 9/11, and that vaccines cause autism. Takes all kinds.

 

The Trump campaign did complain about the fact that poll observers in Pennsylvania had to practice social distancing and remain 6 feet apart from poll employees, however there are no poll observers themselves reporting any incidents of voter fraud (note that social distancing rules were removed the second day into counting). Also note that poll observers work in a secure environment, they are not allowed to leave and reenter the facility at any given time, this has been the standard for counting ballots in federal elections for several decades, however reports that poll observers were outright not allowed in the facility are false. There were in fact poll observers representing both major parties, and there were even international poll observers in the counting facilities, none of which have reported any voter fraud.

 

No of course they cannot be forced, what we're talking about here is a complete willfulness to believe not only claims that have no evidence to support them, but to still believe in many that have already been outright disproven. It is a mindset that is 100% by choice

 

Love Benjamin Franklin, He once said that those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. I am reminded of that quote every time I think of Democratic leaders closing small businesses against their will to "protect them from the beer bug" while allowing the huge multinationals to remain open.

I am not ignorant. I am tribal. When you are tribal, you apply your bias to a set of data and interpret it in such a way that benefits your tribe and harms the enemy tribe. You are tribal as well, it is a fundamental state of being for mammals. This explains why every single thing that Trump did or said was evil according to the MSM and why I believe that the left is fundamentally evil (that and their constant attempts to take my money and distribute to those who want free stuff). Don't blame me brah, blame millions of years of evolution that favored tribalistic hominids.... the non-tribalistic ones went extinct.

 

"Realistically speaking, is there anything that would convince Trump base there wasn't massive fraud?"

Realistically they already know Trump lost fair and square, they just don't like that their messiah lost, so they are in a state of denial

 

Well actually more like 30 ft.

 

The legal ruling was that the poll observers can remain within 6 feet, and this ruling was made while Trump was still in the lead in Pennsylvania. In either case, the notion that there was mass fraud in Pennsylvania (or any state for that matter) is not a claim that poll observers from any party are claiming, whether they are observers representing the Republicans, the Democrats, or even the international observers.

 

Nope. 6. It was 14. Nobody complained, except Trump, who wasn't there.

 

You don't know what you're talking about...

 

And was promptly ignored. There depositions to that affect, post election. And then there is the whole thing about equal protection under the law.

 

Okay. Show me.

 

See my last post..

 

I did.

You don't know what you're talking about.

Seems we're at an impasse. I remember what I read. Can't post it here because of phone. Why don't you be a sport and present your evidence.

 

See the depositions of which their are dozens testifying to the fact that even after the court order Democratic poll workers refused to let Republican observers get close enough to do their job.

 

I don't have depositions on my phone, and I'm not aware of any. Who ordered depositions? Surely not congress. Got a link?

 

Realistically speaking, is there anything that would convince Trump base there wasn't massive fraud?
NO.
The Trump base does not deal in realism….just fantasy , BS, wishes, lies....and alternative "facts" and chaos and divisiveness........

 

Depositions are sworn statements taken by lawyers prior to presenting a case before the courts, some of these have been partially presented to the press but you'll have to go to fix to see them since the alphabet soup media, aka the Joe Biden publicity firm refuse to cover them.

 

I know what a deposition is. I'm not aware of any depositions. I don't think there are any, for the simple fact that all Trump's cases have been dismissed.

 

I believe this chart says it all. They expect us to believe that in all swing states, all of the last ballots went for Biden. The fix was in and Clinton telegraphed it when she told Joe to never concede the race.

 

Validation. I think some of our leftists are outraged that we do NOT riot, loot, mug, and murder in the name of JUSTICE as a matter of course unlike a significant percentage of their radicals. They are also worried that eventually we just might start. Ironically, the very same leftists who had NOTHING to say about their radicals destroying cities for month after month would be outraged -- ourtaged I say! -- by any signs of right of center irritation whatsoever. So, validation.