Remains of 215 children found buried at former B.C. residential school, First Nation says

It never seemed logical to me that the Soviets and not the Germans killed the Polish officers - unless the Soviets were die hard communists? I read the biography of Pope John Paul II, and he was lucky to escape being killed by the Germans, so killing Poles was common practice with the Nazis.

The Pope also said the Germans wanted to destroy Polish culture, this is why he was doing everything possible to preserve it. So again, wouldn't it have been more logical for the Nazis to kill officers of the Polish military, since they would be the ones who would most want to preserve the Polish culture?

Now to go into something which has always bothered me, and that was the plane crash with the Pres. of Poland. I know that Vladimir Putin wanted to better relations with Poland, so why would he be accused of sabotaging the plane (that is if it was sabotaged), and not the ones who wouldn't want to see Russia and Poland bettering their relations - such as Nato or our deep state?

There's no logic in it, but then again were the 'alleged' gas attacks in Syria logical since Assad was winning the battles, and he knew that if he used chemical weapons the US would bomb his troops?

Also, what about the accusations of Putin being behind the assassinations of Nemtsov when he had no political following in Russia and was of more use to the West dead than alive - since then he could be used as propaganda against Vladimir Putin?

The same with Navalny. He failed in stopping the New Constitution from being passed that hindered foreign residents from going into politics, so again he was of no more use to his foreign handlers, so an attempted assassination would have worked towards their benefit.

All these things proves that our government and our press assumes Americans are idiots - and they're right, we are. But that's because we lack a free press - with the exception of some sites on the internet. Personally, I think we work in tandem with Britain. Washington provides the muscle and funds, and Britain the guile and deceit. They call it 'Statecraft'.

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This actually continued into the early 90s with
Romania under Ceaușescu, an underground market.

 

Your wasting your time. In 'Delusions' mind Chernobyl was either Western inspired propaganda (show me the documents proving it happened) or the result of Western sabotage. Russia can do no wrong and never has. The mass famines of the collectivization, the Gulags, Stalin. All myths! And any evidence offered to the contrary is always fabricated.

For example when I referred a link to online translations of original documents (with digital copies of the originals attached) from a university archive he actually refused to except that they were 'real' and insisted I produce the originals! Apparently I was supposed to fly over to Russia and dig through the Kremlin's archives and located the hard copy originals for him! Anything less is 'fake news'.

Which is brilliant in its own (deluded) way because it means there will never be any real evidence for claims he disagrees with and he can never lose an argument. Especially since he seldom if ever links to any original sources (other than news reports) himself.

Basically he lives just under a digital bridge and attacks passing travellers.

 

This probably won't be the last:

 

How many innocent political prisoners are buried in Siberia?

 

The media is dishonestly trying to present this as if the children had been murdered.

related thread: Indigenous Canadians burning churches in Canada


These children almost certainly died in a smallpox or cholera epidemic, that were sweeping through the United States and Canada during that era of time. It was not uncommon at that time to bury people in mass graves if those people were poor and the money did not exist to give them individual burial plots.


It is a very well known fact that the aboriginal peoples had immune systems that were different from the Europeans and could not handle European diseases.
Take a bunch of aboriginal children with weak immune systems and put them together in a close quarters living situation, and disease will run rampant.

Another plausible theory I've heard is that the bodies of aboriginal children may not be able to handle diets high in wheat and dairy products as well as Europeans, so based on the low budget diet the aboriginal children were being fed, they may have suffered nutrient deficiencies that would only have further weakened their immune systems.

It should be remembered that "adequate health care" that could treat cholera, smallpox and measles did not really exist. A vaccine for measles did not even become available until 1963. Tuberculosis ravaged the country and routinely killed many people until a vaccine became available starting in about the late 1920s, even then there were many people who continued dying from it until about the 1930s and 40s.

It would have been perfectly reasonable to shovel the bodies into mass graves if lots of them had died from disease. Especially at a school in a more remote area, with limited resources and a large number of bodies.
Yes, it's possible the indigenous children were seen as a little "less than" and their bodies may not have gotten all the dignity they deserved, but that does not indicate murder. In other parts of the country some of the poor and indigent also got buried in mass graves during the pandemics. Digging an individual separate resting place for each of them would have been seen as too difficult and expensive. I'm sure the ground was hard and difficult to dig in too.

They buried bodies in mass graves during the coronavirus pandemic in New York just last year.
https://time.com/5913151/hart-island-covid/

 

Getting worse:

 

Inevitable:

 

I'm not in favor of burning books:

 

Didn't they just die of an ordinary disease epidemic?

Canadian media is being dishonest, as explained in this thread:
Indigenous Canadians burning churches in Canada

 

When past atrocities come to light in the free world (i.e, western civilization), they are acknowledged and dealt with. It's very different from Mother Russia, where murders and pogroms are denied forever after in the interest of protecting your illegitimate leaders, who always protect themselves with walls of lies, propaganda, denial and oppression, and of course more murders to silence journalists and dissenters and instill fear in the rest of the population.

You still won't even admit to the Holodomor.

 

A little logic here. First of all the Roman Catholic Church considers all life sacred, otherwise they wouldn't be so adamantly against abortion and the death penalty.

All of the deaths from what I read occurred before the advent of antibiotics as well as intravenous feeding - so how could they fight off sicknesses? I know that where my father came from, half the children died before the age of 10.

As for the lack of names on the gravestones, it's probably because the boys were baptized and given Christian names. These names would have been unknown to their parents, so what would have been the purpose of putting their names on the gravestones? I'm sure the burials would have been in accordance with every other Christian burial in the Catholic Church.

Personally, I consider the emphasis the media is putting on these deaths as being either deliberate demagoguery, to arouse the indigenous tribes in Canada, or another attack on the Catholic Church - who as the largest social institution the world has ever seen, were educating the indigenous children at their own expense.

 

But these deaths were covered up, were they not? These graves should not have come as a surprise.

Also, the children were forced into these schools where they died in such great numbers if I'm not mistaken, and it seems they were mistreated. It's OK to admit when the Catholic Church has done terrible things. It was long ago when indigenous and other non-white people, and even many white people of particular backgrounds, were socially mistreated as a matter of course.

 

Really? Ever heard of the Katyn Massacre???? Go back to school...

 

Would the nuns even have known who the parents are? Did they know their native names, or only their Christian names? Also how far were the schools from the tribes? How would they have notified their parents since it's doubtful the natives would have had telephones at that time. Even if they had been able to notify them, would the parents have been able to come and take the body?

I assumed the boys suffered, since nuns are sticklers for conformity, and many of the native boys were probably ADHD and very difficult to handle. I remember reading that Winston Churchill who must have been ADHD, would have died if his governess didn't notice that he was always sick and had him taken out of the boarding school he was in and sent to another one.

Did the tribes have any schools for the children to go to - or did the parents even care? Anyway the numbers of deaths went down right after WWII when penicillin was discovered and then by 1950 when antibiotics became freely available, there were no more deaths. As for being mistreated, well the nuns were not known for their patience. I heard of stories.

I'm sure the boys frustrated and probably drove the nuns crazy, so maybe they didn't like them very much, but that has nothing to do with the institution of the Church itself, otherwise why would the Church bother to spend money and time so they could teach them to read and write.

Anyway I know the one thing the Catholic schools have always emphasized, and more so than anything else, and that's social issues. So for anyone to accuse them of racism is kind of ridiculous, especially when they have so many schools, orphanages, etc., in Africa and the Far East. Now they're even to try to denigrate Mother Theresa when she was feeding over 20 thousand people a day in Calcutta.

 

Julian Assange and Edward Snowden laugh.

 

Hahaha .... Have you ever heard of the Nuremberg Tribunal? The same tribunale where evidence was shown about the involvement of the Nazis in the execution of the Poles.
And by the way. In 2012, the Poles applied to the international court with a claim against Russia in the Katyn case. The result - the international court sent the Poles with their lawsuit in the ass. That is, he did not recognize the Polish claim as legal.
Go back to school baby.

 

If the Poles were with the Soviets, why would the Soviets kill them? It makes no sense unless they were supporting the Nazis indirectly.

I had read Pope John Paul II's biography, and he said he was fortunate to escape with his life at a time when the Nazis were killing the Polish men in Gdansk. So obviously the Nazis had no qualms about killing Poles, whether guilty or not.

I find it strange how the atrocities of the Nazis against the Poles and against the Russian Ukrainians have now 'miraculously' disappeared. This doesn't mean the Soviets were not guilty of crimes in their own right, but let's not add to them the Nazi ones as well.

Pagan Nazism and Fascism, were national responses to the subversive threats of internationalist atheist communism - both evil in their own respect. Let's not over emphasize the crimes of one to cover up the crimes of the other.

As for the war. The Russians were fighting for their homeland which was under attack by an aggressive pagan Germany whose racist intent was to push them to the Urals and take their land to feed their large population.

The Russians were not fighting for their system of government and Stalin did pull them through - and for that the Russian people are grateful. He was not a saint, but then again neither was Churchill and did what he had to do. As for Roosevelt? Well actually he was not that bad.

 

If the Poles were with the Soviets, why would the Soviets kill them? It makes no sense unless the Poles were supporting the Nazis indirectly.

I had read Pope John Paul II's biography, and he said he was fortunate to escape with his life at a time when the Nazis decided to kill all the Polish men in Gdansk. This means the Nazis had no qualms when it came to killing Poles, whether they were guilty or not.

I find it strange how the atrocities of the Nazis against the Poles and Russian Ukrainians have now 'miraculously' disappeared. This doesn't mean the Soviets were not guilty of crimes in their own right, but let's not add the Nazi crimes to them as well.

Pagan Nazism, was a nationalist response to the subversive threats of internationalist atheist communism - both evil in their own respect. Let's not over emphasize the crimes of the one to cover up the crimes of the other.

As for the war. The Russians were fighting for their homeland, not for their system of government. Russia was under attack by an aggressive pagan Germany whose racist intent was to push them to the Urals and grab the rich black earth to feed their ever growing population.

Stalin did pull them through the war - and for that the Russian people are grateful. He was not a saint, but then again neither was Churchill - who was the one who started the bombing of civilians. Stalin did what he had to do to save Russia. As for Roosevelt? Well actually he was not that bad when you think about it.

 

There were no Pagans in WWII, Motorcycle Gangs had no real part in that conflict

Ideologies and religions are just facades when you examine the conflict between the Germans, Poles and Russians, That goes back to the Neandethals.

 

All of it could have been avoided had the British and French allowed Brest-Litovsk to stand. Of course it wasn't just them but the Democratic Socialists and Communists who truly did stab the German army in the back. Had they known what was going to happen after the armistice they wouldn't have laid down their arms on French soil.

 

One thing that should not be forgotten about the Ottomans was that their concept of slavery was apparently somewhat different from ours. The Grand Vizier of the Ottomans was himself a slave as were the Janissaries, who were sold into slavery to the Sublime Porte to be trained as the Sultan's Bodyguard by their parents who vied with each other for the privilege

Valide, A Novel of the Harem. is a tale of historical fiction that broadly suggests what may have been the actual facts of the matter

 

Canada shouldn't feel wrong about this at all, this is all the Catholic church's fault, we had the same thing here in Ireland.

 

Correction. The Janissaries were not sold into slavery. Giving a male son to become a Muslim Janissary was the tax that the Ottomans imposed on Christians. Parents to avoid giving over their son, would not register their baptism in Church - as is normally done. This is why it's impossible to trace one's ancestry in Greece the way it can be traced in other Christians nations.

Normally Muslims were not slaves, yet when the Muslim Circassians in Russia in the 19th century were invited into Turkey, most ended up in the slave markets of Constantinople. The Circassians who were known for their beauty,. and usually groomed for the harem became so cheap, that the Muslims rid themselves of their black slaves. The only reason Mulattoes do not exist in Turkey is because black babies were killed at birth.

In comparison to the Muslims where they castrated black boys and where their survival was minimal, the black slaves fared well in the US. To me the greatest evil the owners in the South did, was that they didn't edify the slaves to Christianity. To do so meant that they were fully human and would have to be freed.

So the blacks in the South continued their witchcraft, voodoo and other Satanic practices from Africa - and since everything affects everyone and everything else in the world, it created an atmosphere of hate and cruelty that culminated in the Civil war.

 

Aleksander Ulyanov - What you might be thinking of is dimmitude, which was a form of slavery imposed on all non Muslims. They were forced to pay a tax, and didn't have the same rights as a Muslim.