Replica Reichstag stormed at Russian 'military Disneyland'

He is not adequate, do not you see it?

 

Yes these reenactments done by Putin are very cheaply and poorly done. Almost like a grade school play.

They could have done a better job, but they had really no money or talent to work with.

 

I dont forgive anything. One side of my family is from Eastern Prussia..the other from Schlesien. My ancestors (parents from my grandparents) from eastern prussia hate russians with absolute passion. They hate them that much that they did not fear to resist joining the obligatory german soviet "friendship" in east germany under russian terror occupation. My great grandfather always was proud, that he smashed a shovel into the face of that russian swine that tried to grab their money and killed him. I grew up with those stories, yet i did not show openly hate towards russians and was neutral. Now i see this. How they use one of our greatest symbols for such a pathetic show.

How idiotic am i? Im in youth Group of AfD. Our party was always for ending sanctions against russia. I feel like a complete idiot now. How can any patriotic german want that? Im thankful for that video and will show my friends and comrades. I cant believe how stupid i was. And i mean that honest. I feel so angry about that.

 

Seriously, it's not some ideologic conversation. We are pretty much past the age of reparations, and pretty much keeping historic artifacts out of country of their origin is in any way an adequate thing to do. So it is normal that he pissed off by museums being painfully slow with transfering items.

I, as an ex-student of historical faculty can say out of personal experience - even getting a several pictures of one statuette from a right angle from museum in England to reconstruct it's sister item's head takes weeks. And there we speak of priceless collection of antient treasures of germanic chiefs and kings.

 

you are welcome, i know where stolen from my family goods/art are today (in Muscovy) . just wonder why Germany acts so slowly , buy 50% less Gas from Gazprom (what left from it) today , and Germany will get all Sovok´s loot from German tomorrow ...

my recommendation :

 

"because the Germans wanted more living space? " zhanha its BS and propaganda,Nazi Germany wanted Ukrainian space, thats why Muscovite emigrants 100% supported Hitler


here some orthodox RPC pops

 

The real thing-
The Red Army liberates Auschwitz, Feb 1945



And arriving in Berlin, kills this SS officer -

 

You realize of course that the Soviet Union was a international political system imposed on Russia by elements and bankers from the West? Russia lost 20 million during the Bolshevic takeover, and the Soviet army fighting the Nazis and fascists also included Poles, Lithuanians, Ukrainians, Czechs, Romanians, etc. as well as Russians. The Lithuanians and Ukrainians according to their accounts, are the ones that entered Berlin.

So to attribute crimes to the Russians rather than to all the Soviets is a brainwashing method to turn people against the Russians, and prepare them for America's war with Russia to retain its hegemony. The elite are building their bunkers or moving to New Zealand, are you?

 

i have couple of more:
"
Contemporary news agencies are often blamed for photo manipulations. It started long ago in fact. Back in the times of WWII graphic artists learnt to distor reality and show what they wanted to show but not what really had happened. Thus, they often added excessive Nazi atrocities, terrible ruins and looting to fill papers with horrifying images.

However we do not have to exclude that such atrocities and other terrific events could really happen, it was just difficult to catch them with a camera due to their spontaneity. Photographers were rarely in a right time and in a right place. It's today when everyone has a cameraphone we can shoot everything we see.

Photo manipulations as an instrument of propaganda is claimed to be natural. Below you will see some photos taken during WWII that underwent montage for the purpose of propaganda."


"The photo is called 'transportation to the concentration camps'. The photo was shown as a proof that the Jews were transported to concentration camps."

"Original. It states: freight trains with German refugees, 1946."

"At the concentration camp, Soviet version."

Original.
http://englishrussia.com/2012/09/06/photo-manipulations-in-the-ussr/7/

 

It is said pretty simple - 'history'. Politics may change, but history remains.

As for the event - as I said before, it is what got remembered from end of that war. I am sure you aware that actual combat officially stopped a whole five days after Reichstag assault, that it was not the most important event, and that it did not even housed parlament at the time.

But people remember the flag, remember war being ended by that event, remember it as symbol of war being finished. Some even say it was won. Two of my great granfathers had no opportunity to say that, at that point they have been dead.

People remember odd events, that not always are most crucial or important. The famous for british Thin Red Line stopped charge of russian cavalry... ...that was not that big. Just a four hundred involved at all, out of whom less than half died in the three volleys of not exactly british thin line, considering quarter or third of it consisted of Ottoman soldiers, and cavalry itself didn't reached line not because of dying, or even routing - when commander of attack saw how thin the line of infantry, he said to have concluded it was a diversion and called his men to disengage.

The other event, if I recall often referred as symbol of polish 'stupidity' - a so called 'cavalry charge' on tanks. It was not exactly cavalry, but a mounted infantry for most part, and they attacked not armor unit - but actually german infantry, that chased retreating polish. Armor just arrived soon after that.

What about a "french covardice" that even I am got pissed off with to point of wanting to strangle one mentioning it? Yes, they capitulated in WW2 - after a pretty much devastating assault, and that way managed to save majority of country from devastation by warfare, as one that happened in WWI - in which the french - plenty of them even literally same - actually held assault so well whole war turned into endlesstalemate.

"Alea iakta est"? How about "ανερρίφθω κύβος"? Not many know that famous phrase was said in Greek. Then again - not many have actually read Ploutarkhos, even I have not actually got my hand on his books, and if not for my fallen short university education would've not knew about that curious fact.


People remember the strangest things, and give them, sometimes, the strangest meanings. Reichstag assault is not thought as insult to Germany or germans, it is a story about how a long and most terrible war we knew have ended. A tale told.
And like Aurora cruiser, that I one day saw personally in Sankt Petersburg - it actually smaller in reality, than in the stories.

 

Not sure where that came from.

No need of a bunker. Me home's secure like Ft. Knox.

 

Im done with this bullshit here. There is no reason to allow some pathetic poor 3rd worlders to argue with me. Im thank full for that video and will show my friends. They should know too, that sanctions are important and AfD must be critical wizh russia.

 

Especially since the Chief Soviet was Georgian and not Russian at all.

Oh and what percent of those Czechs, Poles, Ukrainians, Romanians, etc. were Jewish do you suppose as the Nazi forces conquered and selectively exterminated.
A friend's father was in Poland as Nazis came in from one side and Soviets on the other. Being Jewish he chose to get caught up with the Soviet forces. Later at the war's end in Germany, he jumped to the American areas.

Moi

r > g

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Why be critical with Russia via sanctions.
Sanctions hurt common, working people. Not the bankers and investors.
The Southern European farmers who can't sell their crops to Russia.
The Russian person who struggles harder but is still better off than most of their modern history.
The West destroyed nations with national economies that gave their working citizens a relatively middle class life. Now Iraq, Syria, Libya, and places of Western intervention against unwestern governments has resulted in the destruction of national economies that supported a middle class.
And they don't get no Marshall Plan.

How is Russia the bigger criminal and deserving of sanctions?
Are sanctions an "act of war"? Consider their purpose.
And who is hurt by sanctions? Common people on each side of the sanction.

Thank you

Moi
American born.
Californian by the Grace of the Lord.

r > g

Sanction Canada!
is facing trade review
by Trump re.: dairy products.​

 

The USSR took on 90% of the burden of the Nazis, suffered occupation and devastation of their most developed areas and certainly deserve to celebrate their triumph in the Great Patriotic War.

True?
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Texas has their Alamo.

Moi

r > g

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You know Litwin I've given your thread a lot of thought and came to the conclusion the military Disneyland is an undercover way to prepare for an attack on Lithuania. Russia has been eyeing them jealously for a long time and I think they're ready to act. Watch out, they're tough.

 

Seriously. I understand that teasing Litwin is easy - by the way, don't mistake litwins and lithuanians, litwin - is ancient name of people who lived in modern Belarus. And boy - it got it's own problems. Lithuanians are not litwins, it just historically happened that name of country have moved so much... ...but anyway. Please, do not descend to what may be marked as trolling. First of all, it is against forum rules, second of all - the biggest trolling of Litwin is just existence of me and my country and lack of perspective of mine and my country's demise in any observable future. So please, abstain from teasing like that.

 

of cos not , thats why everywhere in people who lived under sralin occupation met Germans with flowers , sralin killed way , way much more, today sralenists blame hitler for what did koba- sralin... kurapaty, katyn, etc. simple question to you: who killed people in kurapaty and katyn?

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"Russia" these days is now Upper Volta without the rockets"

 

Russians have gotten worse and worse on forums in the past couple years, you do much better just to ignore them. It is a perfect example of East/West mentality. Unless they truly are paid trolls, a lot of what they say is copmletely contradictive of itself.

Just let them do their thing

 

military disneyland ...suppose it's similar to some of the exhibitions we have here... I rather enjoy going to them

 

Well, that can be said pretty much about any sort of internet demagogue.

As for paid trolls - may I not listen to this nonsence at least from NOT-litwin? It's a one story about one organisation that mostly works on spamming youtube videos and boosting ratings in VKontakte. And pretty much is not that much of a unique enterpise.

 

Years ago, Time magazine had a WW2 / Great Patriotic War commemorative issue.
They had graphs and such depicting how many Nazi tanks were taken out by the Allies and how many by the Soviets. And on to air force, infantry, etc. And the ratio was pretty much 9 for the Soviets against 1 for the Allies in all areas.

And those who threw flowers lived to regret it under Nazi occupation. Didn't they.

 

The allied forces should have let the red army "take care" of Germany after the defeat of Berlin

I say is as someone who lost relatives in the "master races " spit , camps

 

Remember the Alamo!
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How about konigsberg?aka Kaliningrad?