Republican Debates.

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What the hell are you prattling about? I said he was the darling of the evangelical right and then fulfill none of the promises he made to them.

    I didn't say anything about it being his number 1 priorty (btw, his number one priority was the economy)

    nice try.
     
  2. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Reagan raised taxes and also cut taxes.

    Reagan sat down with the Soviets and with strength and got what he wanted and with no appeasing the Soviets.

    I don't remember anyone laughing at Reagan back in 1980 so you are making (*)(*)(*)(*) up. I do remember the left being scared of Reagan along with Iran and the Soviet Union.

    Reagan wasn't President when "we" won the Cold War. It was Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher who was first to say that Reagan won the Cold War.

    Re: Desert Storm, it's pantywaist liberals who expect all wars to be fought and won in 72 hours.

    The Middle East is a complete basket case today, it wasn't in 2008.

    How could I not forget the Contra's ? I spent close to a thousands dollars of my own hard earned money supporting the Contra's, it was just one battle of the Cold War.
    BTW: If you drank Coors Beer during the 1980's, you also helped the Contra's.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    By the third year of the Reagan administration, the economy had recovered and was humming along. In fact I made a whole lot of money when Reagan was President, how about you ?

    The numbers tell the story.

    Over the eight years of the Reagan Administration:

    20 million new jobs were created

    Inflation dropped from 13.5% in 1980 to 4.1% by 1988

    Unemployment fell from 7.6% to 5.5%

    Net worth of families earning between $20,000 and $50,000 annually grew by 27%

    Real gross national product rose 26%

    The prime interest rate was slashed by more than half, from an unprecedented 21.5% in January 1981 to 10% in August 1988

    Given actual rates of inflation, through 1987, the Reagan tax cuts saved the median-income two-earner American family of four close to $9,000 in taxes from what it would have owed in 1980.
     
  4. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, I agree that the congressional republicans are doing a way better job at peeing americans off. I guess the congressional dems just have to try harder.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    completely irrelevant to the discussion. But I understand the hallowed place Ol' Ronnie has with some conservatives. He did good and he did bad. It was also a time when the democratic house was at times willing to compromise with both him and the republican senate. Ahhh, back in the day, oh the nostalgia of timely bipartisanship when cooperation and compromise were not dirty words.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't remember Reagan making any campaign promises and I was working for the Reagan campaign back in 1980.

    Below is one of Reagan's 1980 Campaign Brochure's.

    BTW: Notice anything ?

    Ronald Reagan for President 1980 Campaign Brochure

    http://www.4president.org/brochures/reagan1980brochure1.htm
     
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    carpe diem New Member

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    Yes..you see Reagan was not a divider. He was not an arrogant prick...He would never say things like "elections have consequences" or " all liberals can get in the back of the bus"
     
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    Both born at 21 weeks.
     
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    Your inability to provide any examples of Republican ideas is duely noted. Thank you for supporting my point.

    Now how about the Republican ideas presented in the debate for reducing the defecit or about Global Warming.
     
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    Precisely so. Posters may fling certain names around for months afterwards but -- for instance, take The Donald -- assuming that he follows his historical pattern during these presidential primaries and ends up self-destructing, yes, posters will be either defending his presidential bid or mocking his dissapointed supporters for weeks and maybe even a month or so afterwards, but the public? No. A few days after his self-destruction (assuming he does self-destruct) other political names will be on their lips, with The Donald already being just a fading memory to them. The average voter IS NOT a political junkie.

    Oh and ditto for all the other presidential wannabes on either the GOP or Dem side of things; shortly after he or she drops out of the contest the general public will effectively forget the name.
     
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    And in the process he reduces the chances any Repub that will face Hillary, but I agree I doubt he is actually a Republican or even a Democrat he is one of the elite that runs the show behind the scenes and is just playing childish games, at the expense of the Nation.
     
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    EXTREMELY RARE and followed by a long stay in ICU to keep them alive, the vast majority born at that stage Die. Nice try, but is a old argument example.
     
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    Global warming and cooling is not a man made event.

    I love how some idiots view global warming as a threat...while ignoring real threats from real people, people that don't just bluster, they terrorize to gain their objectives.

    As far as reducing the deficit, the first step is to stop the bleeding. You don't tax the nation into stagnation and you can't tax and spend us into prosperity.

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    Proves that they are babies...not yet ready to leave the security of the womb and that removing them is murder. To argue for abortions after so much evidence has come to light, one must have no soul.
     
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    You didn't listen. Heck you had the Guy up there who last produced a surplus you didn't listen to him? The last time the Republicans controlled the budget they had it down to $161B

    Nothing needs to be done.
     
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    One cannot have a soul until there is a brain in place for it to reside, that is unless you believe the soul resides in another organ.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The same folk who talk snarky about Reagan would also have a tendency
    to talk indifferently about Mother Teresa.It goes with the disease.Don't forget
    Liberalism is a mental disorder.Obama is proving it quite naturally almost every
    day.It's either that or the spread of Korsokoffs Syndrome with pronounced
    confabulation { invented memories }.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are forgetting Liberals have no use whatsoever with a soul.
    Souls do not vote or need a daily fix of spreading propaganda.Chris Matthews
    { all Catholic schools } like Nancy Pelosi have undoubtedly shed their souls
    in order to make room for liberal issues like Abortion,Big Government and
    tax hikes.It was J.F.K. who reduced Taxes.The Only Catholic President and the
    Youngest would be appalled at how practicing catholics like Pelosi and
    Matthews view Abortion.Because the Democrat party and especially Obama
    preach and make policy for Abortion On Demand.
     
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    After some years reading liberal comments on boards like this...I have noticed that liberals tend to have conveniently selective memories.
     
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    Trump was pretty clear on the things Megan OUGHT to have questioned on.

    1) Trump said that he would Bomb ISIS oil wells and refineries to cut their incomes to almost zero.
    2) Trump said he would stop new illegals by having Mexico build a Wall.
    3) Trump said he would force all illegals out, but immediately bring back in the good workers with a Plan for identifying and green-carding them permanently.
    4) Trump said he would lock up all criminals and immediately start sending them back to Mexico.
    5) Trump would end sanctuary cities.
    6) Trump said he would end Obamacare.
    7) Trump said he would create jobs,... a number one priority.

    Trump said a lot right there.
     
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    Does not change the fact that what I said was true.
     
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    :alcoholic:Talking about the Iran deal...not his usual executive orders.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, of course. Reagan was a saint, despite lying to the American public and presiding over illegal arms deals.

    As for Obama being a "divider", that is a specious projection from the republican "party of no" and their DELIBERATE and DECLARED strategy of obstructionism.
    Yep Obama was a divider even tho the tea party republicans spawned the "birther" movement and claimed him to be a muslim Marxist.

    Its funny how partisans can be so blind to their own sides machinations and so hypersensitive to the oppositions.
     
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    He hasn't gone around congress. In fact, he is following protocol.

    Or are you unaware that congress does not "negotiate" international agreements, since that power resides in the executive branch, they merely approve or reject them.
     
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    Then factually end the Theological conundrum.Where exactly does a Soul
    reside.Whether it can be named as to location and possible bodily organ.

    Keeping in mind Saint Augustine's
    { Confessions } 397-398 a.d.
    " Poetry is the devils wine.
    The greatest virtues are only splendid sins.
    Hidden is the good heart,hidden is the evil heart,an abyss is in
    the good heart and in the evil heart.
    Every disorder of the soul is it's own punishment. "
     
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    Reagan was as close to our highest office will ever be associated as Saintly.

    Unless one belives as Liberals do in the thought process' of
    one Ambrose Bierce and his confabulated definition of
    SAINT,n. - A dead sinner revised and edited OR
    IRRELIGION,n. - The principle one of the great faiths of the world.

    A Fabulists' account on a sardonic view of mankind.
    " Nothing matters ".
     

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