Ok...but incest marriage is irrelevant to same sex marriage. People in this thread are advocating same-sex marriage. If a law makes incest marriage illegal, it has absolutely no bearing on arguments regarding same sex marriage. What you are saying is that gay marriage is wrong because it has to do with gender and incest is wrong because of other reasons. Ok, great. According to you, both are wrong. But you don't have to believe that incest is right to believe that same-sex marriage is right, or vice-versa. Period. The two are separate issues. And procreation has nothing to do with marriage, so your irrelevant rant is not accurate either.
any 2 people of the same sex were prohibitted from marriage. which of course included closely related people. it was already illegal.
See, the problem is that you have not read the thread. Find my explanations and respond to those. But, what you will do, and I know that is what you will do, because that is what you are doing, is not respond to the substance of what people say and derail the topic with off topic minutea. I have never insulted you.
Homosexuality is bothe perverse and degenerate. Always has been, and always will be, it does not matter that some empty souled judge says to the contrary.
No- it just is what it is, a natural variant in the human and animal kingdom. It's nature's birth control. And especially with humans, it gives kids who would not otherwise be adopted loving parents. Gay folk tend to adopt unwanted kids with special needs and improve their lives. We exist for a reason, and always have and always will.
It was prohibited by virtue of same-sex marriage being illegal. Your initial claim was that the legislation made something illegal, implying it was legal before. What I'm saying is, in terms of effect, nothing has changed in that regard. - - - Updated - - - Got anything worthwhile to contribute?
Oh, OK, non-adaptive evolutionary destructive mutation + scocial engeneering to take advatage of this useless mutation. Gotcha.
Everything I post is a worthwhile contribution, just because Progressive MaO'Bama voters who have been thoroughly indoctrinated in the leftist loser false social model do not posses the intellectual capacity to understand it is not my problem. I post truth.
If it were a natural means of population control, it wouldn't be useless. But the real reason for its existence will probably never be known, and I don't think it matters at all. If we believe in personal freedom, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, we as a society should allow taxpaying gay couples and their families to enjoy the same legal protections as we do sterile/elderly heterosexual couples. If gay couples are adopting, they are saving the state money and resources and should be rewarded for that.
No. Thats how you percieve what you read when filtered through the well entrenched propaganda that you have willingly absorbed. But its still truth.
Its not. It is. It is known as perversity and degeneracy. It does matter, weak attempt at defusion and minimalizing this incideous plague. People are free to be perverts...in their closets where they belong. Their superficial appearences as couples and families is false construct of the radical gay agenda propaganda machine that empty souled MaO'Bama voters have bought into. Us real American know better. They are not saving the state anything, that pretense is proving that the state has degenerated into a morally bankrupt and corrupt institution.
I wholeheartedly disagree. Basically, that's how substantial most of your posts are. Just various ways of saying you disagree in an arrogant holier than thou tone. You may be comfortable with the fact you think you know you are right, but saying that over and over again and bring "Mo'Bama" into it isn't going to convince anyone. If I knew I was right and yet loosing badly on the public stage, I'd be trying to cleverly coax people around. Not employing silly rhetoric that if anything makes people less likely to agree with me. Seems counterproductive....
Case in point really. You haven't the slightest clue how to engage in a debate. Had you not made over 27k posts I'd be inclined to label you a troll... then again you could be one that has far too much free time on his hands.
Of course you do. Political correctness can not find its way through the mire of meaningless propaganda. Thats the beauty of it, it was so well crafted that people actually think that they are the ones who arrived at the pretend social construct that its time we accept homosexuality, after all, it is the 21rst century. I do not disagree. I know with out even the slightest doubt that homosexuality is plague on society, and I know I am right. And that Is MaO'Bama who is a disgrace all his own,, he is a failure at everything all the time. I am not looseing, that is the beauty of being right, even if it looks like I'm losing I am actually winning because the truth will become self evident over time. Interesting you use the term "stage" because that is all this gay marriage thing is, an act, a spoof of actual morality and societal balence. I am blunt, politically incorrect (proudly), direct and not willing to (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) foot around. - - - Updated - - - Bla ditty bla ditty bla. You can not argue the pint, so, you resort to name calling as if you know me, or at least have me figured out. Not.
Why do you think homosexuality is a plague? How does it harm you, or anyone else? Why is it merely "pretend" or whatever it is you ignorantly believe? I'm open to understanding why it is you've come to those conclusions, even though I know you're so deeply entrenched in your vehemently anti-gay views nothing I say will convince you otherwise. To be quite honest, as you're on the losing side of this culture war, I feel kinda sorry for you. Not even sure why... but I'm glad you can feel like you have a voice here, get on your soapbox and let off a bit of steam. The annoyminity of the Internet is a wonderful thing, no?
And LMAO at the idea you're not losing. You're deluded beyond belief if you think society is going to start rescinding gay rights when they have some kind of backwards-epiphany and realise this great "truth" you're talking about. It's going to be a non-issue for future generations. How do you imagine that things will go back to how they were before? When you're on your death bed, I guarantee that, short of parts of the ME and Africa, there's going to be few places in the world where gay people won't be able to marry and adopt children. And you will have done NOTHING in your life to slow down or stop that from happening, except wasting your time and energy getting yourself worked up about it. Just ponder that for a while.
Why just the gay couples? Your inability to provide a coherent justification is why "gay marriage" violates constitutional guarantees of equal protection.
Any same-sex couple can marry in the 12 states that have legalised it, bar closely related people. If legalising SSM somehow means that related "couples" aren't receiving equal protection, then the courts will sort that out. They won't rescind SSM, they'll merely expand marriage further. Same-sex marriage wouldn't be unconstitutional, the bans on related people would.
Wait I'm confused, are you saying SSM is or isn't unconstitutional? "Gay marriage" doesn't exist in law because you don't have to be gay to enter into a same-sex marriage.
your perceived version of perversion or what is degenerate is subjective, and has no relevance to anyone besdides yourself. but that's what rightists do. they hate the constitution and are fascists wishing to control every aspect of other peoples lives.
Factual states of being are not subjective. I like how you continue to beat on that poorly skinned drum.
What you're referring to is a subjective opinion not a factual statement, and we can keep doing this dance but nothing will change that. Your approach isn't convincing anyone of this purported "truth" you speak of.