Rick Perry vs. Ron Paul

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  1. Dr. Righteous

    Dr. Righteous Well-Known Member

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    Rick Perry is a career politician. He will do what is necessary to win, and you will see him start gravitating more to the center than his crazy secessionist ways that only work in Texas.

    Even though Ron Paul is clearly a nut case, he does not get wavered by politics. He will be crazy regardless of the votes.
     
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    Perry presided over execution-homicides in Texas.
    He should never be elected President.

    Nor should anyone else who did the same in Texas or any other state.
     
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    Barack Obama is clearly a psychopath. He is continuing unjustified wars and is trying to overthrow the man who the Libyan people support. He also supports torture, spying on citizens, killing citizens without trial, expanding the homeland security.

    Is money the only thing that concerns you? Now, carry on with your arguments that debt, deficit, and spending simply do not matter, the more the merrier. Funny that no one else with any power in the world agrees with you. They seem to think that debt and deficit do matter. Look in the mirror and you might find the nut case.
     
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    Lol, I didn't say they don't matter. And there are plenty of economists that share my view on spending more money including Republican Jon Huntsman, Ronald Reagan and GWB's top economic adviser, Warren Buffet, Obama, etc.

    So no, I am not alone on this crusade of the truth!
     
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    I'm not sure that I would be bragging about Bush's economic adviser supporting your theory. Reagan and Bush were banker cronies, as are most of the economists in the mainstream today who have failed to predict or suggest the correct actions.

    "The "Extremists" Are In Charge And Have Been for 40 Years"
    -Ron Paul

    David Rockefeller admits that he has intentionally acted against the best interest of America to accelerate globalization, just as many others have admitted their treason.
     
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    Ahhhh, I see now... you are of the type that has a massive armadillo helmet collection.

    Come out of your bomb shelter and get some sun!!
     
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    Funny. Yeah, I'm one of those who don't put all of my faith in international bankers operating outside of the government, why do you have so much faith in them? Do you really believe that they are always concerned with America or do you think they want money and power? Do you have a problem with auditing the Fed? Come on, you are in the party of "eat the rich" but it seems all you ever want to do is have them print money and pass it around among themselves. See the ideological divide I see in progressive thinking?

    I see you are one of those types, come on out of your authoritative shell, you can exist without someone controlling your every move and thought..

    Tell us what Mr. Rockefeller meant by this:

    http://tobefree.wordpress.com/2009/02/09/david-rockefeller-i%E2%80%99m-proud-of-being-part-of-a-secret-cabal-working-against-the-best-interests-of-the-united-states/
     
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    Why do you think Paul is a nutcase? Because he believes in real money? Because he supports the Constitution? Because he thinks we should end all of our wars and bring the military empire to an end? Becuase he doesn't think the President should have the power to assassinate American citizens? Because he doesn't support Bush and Obama's Patriot Act and the ever expanding police state?

    I'm not holding my breath that you'll actually have the balls to respond to this post.
     
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    I have everything I need in life. I could care less about conspiracy theories on international bankers. The banking system is at the core of how our economy functions. Rich people will always be in control because they have the money and the capital. The Govt is the only thing that keeps us from being corporate slaves. So I will continue to vote for the American people rather than for capital owners looking to profit off our health and basic survival needs.
     
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    So you're denying that David Rockefeller has admitted these things? Please provide evidence that he did not make those quotes.

    You're seriously blind if you don't realize that the world is controlled by international bankers. Or just brainwashed.
     
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    Government is not protecting us from the rich, they are in cahoots with them. Banker bailouts? Instigating the banks to relax lending policies? Repealing Glass–Steagall? Spending trillions to bomb and rebuild nations overseas?

    Yeah, Obama is in that crowd. Do you think that the disparity in wealth distribution is only because we don't tax the rich or spend enough? The truly wealthy escape most taxes and I don't see Obama closing loopholes anytime soon.
     
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    He was being facetious.
     
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    There is no way around it. Getting rid of Government won't make the peons any better off. The Government at least gives the useless non-capital owners a fighting chance and some ownership in capital. It's hard making 310 million people happy with out a Government... which is why we have a Government.
     
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    In 2002 Rockefeller authored his autobiography "Memoirs" wherein, on page 405, Mr. Rockefeller writes: "For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure — one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."

    Hardly facetious, especially when you examine his family's history.
     
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    You don't understand that government is the tool by which the elites acquire most of their capital. It's not the free market which creates monopolistic control of wealth, it's central banking and big government.
     
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    Not really, it's a balance. Government is the tool that allows them to keep their capital, but it's also the tool that can take it away.

    With out the Government, they just own the capital and they put us in the lion's den and make us fight it out. Sort of like most third world country's.

    I don't get why people think working as a cashier for Wal-Mart is such an admirable job compared to being a police officer or a teacher. The Government provided much needed competition to the capital owners so they can't turn us in to leetches who need slave labor jobs just to get a loaf of bread.

    Our country is just spoiled because we have too much money. Most of the problems are just in your head.
     
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    We're not talking about government, we're talking about big government. Huge difference there. As in, government which overrides the free market to give priviledges to a small elite. It's also funny that you mention Wal-Mart because they are a prime example of what happens when the free market is subverted. They receive billions in government handouts every year and have a huge monopoly. Monopolies are impossible in a true free market.

    Saying we have too much money is ridiculous. Why do you think we'd be better off if we were all poorer? That is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. No wonder you support Obama.
     
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    Both of these guys are just politicians. Can't trust either of them.
     
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    Whaaaaaaaaaaaat?? How are monopolies impossible in a true free market? The owners of capital have a monopoly on everything. The only reason we don't have "true" monopolies is because the Government.

    I don't get what gives you guys the impression that life is better off with out a Government. It's been pretty clear throughout history that the wealthy have complete control over the country if there is not a Government to give the peons a fighting chance. Like I said, with out the Government we would be a third world country.
     
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    I am a wholehearted cynic when it comes to politicians. They disgust me as a rule. Been this way since Vietnam War.
    But I trust Ron Paul and intend to vote for him.
    The criticism of him that I see on here is obviously from people who have never taken the time to listen to him and understand that he loves America and its ideas of freedom and liberty. He walks the walk.
    If you get all your info from the tv, then, yes Ron Paul is a nut and unelectable.
    America is getting what it deserves!
     
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    I don't like Ron Paul because he's a hippie and he sounds like a hippie.

    Yeah his economic policy is great, but I get hippie like posture.

    I'd much rather have Cain. He's not a politician and he is a business man. I know it is going to have a good domestic policy as well as a good monetary policy.
     
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    Any reason not to trust Ron Paul aside from his consistent voting record and consistent ideology?
     

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