Rifles should not be sold at Walmart

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  1. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    US arms intended for Syrian rebels used to kill American soldiers: And these clowns want to lecture us on gun control?

    How about they figure out what they hell they are doing and what is happening with the dangerous arms the Obama Administration is filling the world with?

    Obama, the biggest arms dealer the world has seen since WWII furnished deadly weapons to the Jordanians, who sold the weapons to terrorists who used them to kill Americans. Earlier in Obama's Administration he waled guns to the Mexican drug cartels, and they used these weapons, also to kill Americans. Yet Obama wants to grab American's guns. How about he just quits supplying arms to those that use them to kill Americans? Do we really need another damn word out of Obama on gun control?
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    Weapons shipped into Jordan by the Central Intelligence Agency and Saudi Arabia intended for Syrian rebels have been sold to arms merchants on the black market.

    Some of the weapons were used to kill Americans.

    This involves millions of dollars of weapons.
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    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/27/w...supplied-black-market-officials-say.html?_r=0
     
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    jmblt2000 Well-Known Member

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    You mean it wasn't enough for Walmart to stop selling Ar15's? Or are you saying that the mostly poor clientele which is also a lot of minorities should not be able to buy rifles at Walmart? Are you a white supremacist? I mean half of your rant is about the type of people that shop there...As for locks, if you bothered opening your eyes the cases are made with lexan and yes are locked, but so is each rifle rack locked as well...They also follow the same rules as any gun shop and perform background checks. So last question, are you a racist?
     
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    Don't want a gun? Don't buy a gun.
    Don't like Walmart? Don't shop at Walmart.

    Why did you not mention the hunting knives?....
     
  5. Balto

    Balto Well-Known Member

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    So many people here have misaligned the nature of the OP with race, its nuts. I'm not going to entertain any of the race baiting. Look, you would buy a microwave at Walmart, you would buy a toaster at Walmart, what you would not buy at Walmart is a gun. The average person can see that one of these things don't belong here.
     
  6. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Says who? A special snowflake with an irrational fear of rifles and Walmartians?
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not being a gun buyer or a WalMart shopper, why Would WalMart be different than any other sporting goods store ?
     
  8. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Why? They have the same background checks that any other licensed gun dealer does. Only certain personnel are allowed to sell guns at Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart actually has stricter standards for gun sales than federal laws require.
    (FYI, the source below is a pro gun control site, not a pro-gun site)

    https://www.thetrace.org/2015/07/walmart-background-checks-ffl-rifles-ammo-shotguns-fbi-nics/


    Honestly, it's hard for me to take seriously your snobbishness, based on what you have revealed about yourself.
     
  9. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    I've been in both sections. At least in my local store, there's an aisle about 30 feet long that is the book aisle. They have a single cabinet maybe 5 ft wide for ammunition. They have a single plexiglas case of rifles that takes up maybe 10 sq. feet of space, and they don't sell pistols. I don't know what in the world you are talking about--much more shelf space for books than for guns. Heck, I think they have more shelf space for soccer equipment than guns.

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    Everybody besides the extremely rich that I know go to Walmart.
     
  10. TrackerSam

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    Walmart is not your safe space. Stay in your safe space.
     
  11. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    My observation is that almost everybody besides the extremely rich go to Wal-Mart. Yes, scary-looking people go to Wal-Mart, but almost everybody else also goes to Wal-Mart as well.
     
  12. TrackerSam

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    There there little fella. You're so concerned why don't you open a book store next door?

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    Because you say so? That's a hoot.
     

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    Why? They sell fishing rods and reels and camping equipment.
     
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    ^^ this ^^

    Wal Mart is a business, and their goal is to sell stuff. When someone buys a rifle, there's a good chance they'll also buy related things like ammo and maybe a pair of earmuffs, binoculars or some type of hearing protection. Might even decide to get a couple of shirts, a pair of boots, replace some camping equipment or even get groceries while they're there. My local Wal Mart also sells hunting and fishing permits, which is another draw. I don't see why they wouldn't sell rifles along with a hunting permit.

    I don't do a lot of shopping there and wouldn't buy a rifle from them anyways, so their decision to sell rifles (or not) doesn't affect my going there one way or the other.
     
  15. Balto

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    There's no shame in going to Walmart for grocery needs. I'll clarify real quickly when I said Walmartians, I consider it a joke based on the interesting looking people I've seen there, no race involved whatsoever. Overall, its just a way of making light. Supposedly, to a lot of people though, shopping at Walmart implies you aren't the best off in life, or else one would be a lifetime member of Sams or Costco.

    It does offer a sense of comfort that Walmart has gone further than what federal regulations call for. It evens out the unsettling fact that Walmart is the biggest gun retailer. However, then what I say is, unlike the $21-$25 price tag for rifles in the picture of that article, we need to add a couple zeroes to that. So, for the average rifle, it would cost $2100, even at a discounted price (a nice median charge for all rifles would probably be $3000-$5000). Setting such high premiums will put people, like Dylan Roof, from, even with such a stringent background check policy in place, from getting his bloodthirsty hands on a rifle. Charge $3000 for a rifle, then $50 at the lowest for ammo. Don't think that is too high of a premium, most of the users here I'm guessing would be able to afford such a price tag, if they can't stand the thought of not having a rifle, like its some sacrilegious act not to.
     
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    I don't think its reasonable to put fishing rods and lanterns in the same category as rifles.
     
  17. Crankshaft

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    Fishing rods are used to "hunt" fish. I know people who target practice with their fly fishing rigs.
     
  18. perdidochas

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    Do you know anything about gun prices? Please don't post things that you are totally ignorant about. That $21, etc., was not for the rifles, but for the things on the shelves behind the rifle section. The rifle prices are on the small tags beside the rifle. Most guns these days are in the $500 to $1000 range. Again, what is your problem with Walmart selling guns? I haven't heard any rationale other than "Walmartians are bad people and shouldn't have guns." Is your new argument that guns are too cheap?

    Interestingly, Wal-Mart has stopped selling AR type rifles--they pretty much only sell hunting rifles and shotguns. They stopped selling handguns a few years ago.

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    Why? The purpose of a fishing rod is to kill fish.
     
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    That would be unconstitutional. You're denying less affluent people the right to arm themselves. Maybe you're one of the elite like this woman who's a gun grabboid but likes to pack heat herself. Laws don't apply to Democrats or the grabboids like Rosie O'donnel and Barbara Boxer who are anti gun but have body guards with guns. News flash - that strategy has been proposed before. The gun dealers would never go for it because they can sell more by not pricing people out of the market. You plan to dictate to the stores what they can sell and at what price they must sell it at? That's your brilliant solution? So only rich folk should have guns?
     
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    I doubt Wal Mart is concerned with "less affluent people" having a "right to arm themselves" and don't see why it would be unconstitutional if they decided to stop selling rifles or to even charge a premium for them.
     
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    That statement kinda reminds me of how the elite of times past would shun the "unclean" peasants.

    Fast forward to modern America, and wealthy, liberal politicians pander to the "unclean" peasants for votes, but look down their noses at them.

    My advice to the liberal elite when they shop with the Middle and Lower Classes ....

    .... Park the Beamer at the back of the lot, taking up two spaces.

    bmw in lot.jpg
     
  22. perdidochas

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    It would be unconstitutional for the government to force that raise in prices. Wal-Mart is not going to charge a premium. It's not their business model. Wal-Mart wants to sell guns, first to make money selling guns, and second to make money off of selling gun accessories, hunting clothes, etc.
     
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    There's nothing stopping them from doing those things..................................... except competition from other gun dealers. I don't think they became America's Largest Gun Seller by selling guns at 3 times what other dealers are selling them for.
     
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    Rifles are part of 'Sporting Goods'.
     
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    Curious: Why wouldn't you buy a rifle at Walmart? I shopped around, and they had the best price on the rifle I wanted. The closest competitor was +$400.
     

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