Right Wing Religios

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lesh, Jul 12, 2016.

  1. Margot2

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    Relax.. Hillary is vetting a retired 4 star Admiral.. formerly head of NATO and involved in Afghanistan, Libya and Iraq.
     
  2. Questerr

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    Provide sources for all these things you are claiming progressives are forcing on Christians.

    Also, nowhere in your post did you support your claim that progressives have put the government in every bedroom.
     
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    That would be the war monger in her. The reason she lost before but now the left embraces it.
     
  4. Pax Aeon

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    I'm not pulling any punches by saying this but you are definitely a man with his own agenda. Go for it.
     
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    How is pointing out the fact that the majority of Baptists vote progressive asserting that you're a democrat?
     
  6. MrNick

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    Yea, my agenda is total freedom....... People can do whatever they like and hold whatever opinions they like but I draw the line when they want to turn their crazy ideas like banning homosexuality or forcing homosexuality on others via legislation...

    It's called classical liberalism.
     
  7. Pax Aeon

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    I'm just sayin. I do not agree with most of what you said but I will defend, to a small bit of discomfort, your right to say it.
     
  8. Battle3

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    LOL, the classic "progressive" cop-out. When you cannot refute the argument, you try to swamp them with "provide sources", and when sources are provided you say "that's not an objective source, provide more sources", and so on.

    An opinion was stated, many agree with it, its obvious to all but the most blinded partisan or a troglodyte holed up in a cave, I'll even use the "progressives" favorite excuse - everything he wrote is "common sense".
     
  9. MrNick

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    Of course I did because homosexuality starts in the bedroom and our government and progressives in general are basically saying 'you must accept homosexuality and approve of it or face the consequences'.

    No, I'm not going to go out and find a bunch of links you will just argue and debate against regardless - it's a total waste of my time.

    I'll do one better tho..

    Government needs to stay out of our bathrooms.

    Government needs to stay out of business relationships.

    Government needs to stay out of religion.
     
  10. Derideo_Te

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    *eyes rolling*

    The term slow learners comes to mind.

    How has trying to impose their theist beliefs worked for them in the past?

    What is that saying about making the same mistake over and over again?
     
  11. Questerr

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    An opinion not based on fact or evidence is not worth considering. Or as better stated by Hitchens Razor: that which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

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    Name a single person forced by the government to approve of homosexuality.
     
  12. Pax Aeon

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    I hear ya. Good thing you can't force homosexuality on a person who is heterosexual.
     
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    You don't agree with the truth or you don't agree with my position on the truth?
     
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    Of course you can - you can say "hey, gays have the right to screw in the bathroom of your business" or "hey, you're a slave to gays so go cater to their wedding" or "hey, gays are a legally protected class so don't offend them because they can sue you for being offended"....

    Of course you have the college professor that failed a student because she didn't go out and have a homosexual sexual experience which is pretty much forcing someone to have gay sex to pass a college course.
     
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    Sure, why not?

    Do you know which state is one of the largest porn consumers is in America today?

    http://en.fairmormon.org/Utah/Statistical_claims/Pornography_use_in_Utah
     
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    How are you a slave when you voluntarily work in a business and then that business does work? Are you saying Christians are being drug in chains to gay weddings and being forced to work in catering against their will?

    Where is your source for your claim from your second paragraph?
     
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    Truth is a subjective concept, something that can be accepted or rejected according to the viewers prejudices.
     
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    Approval is a moral idea - forcing someone to accept is a totally different idea. Indeed progressives are FORCING businesses, people and groups to accept homosexuals via legislation.... That is not right at all - that infringes in individuals freedom of association.

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    No it's not, hence you are a progressive if you believe that because that is what drives progressive ideas "truth is subjective"....

    That's why you believe Trump is a racist when he isn't because it's YOUR truth not the actual reality but YOUR truth.
     
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    Are you telling me that at the core of male sexuality, is the temptation of being a phallic?
     
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    No one is forcing anyone to accept anyone else. You are allowed to have whatever opinion of gays you want. The government is not going to come after you because you don't like gays.

    No one forces a business to be in business. If you are a caterer and you don't want to cater weddings, might I suggest not being a caterer?
     
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    You ever hear of freedom of association? funny how you get that concept when it comes to labor unions (which use it to justify their nonsense) yet it's an alien idea when it comes to something simple like doing a business transaction.
     
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    LOL, keep those cop-outs coming. If you had an argument, you would have selected one of those issues and focused on it.


    Jack Phillips, owner of Masterpiece Cakeshop, who refused to bake a wedding cake for a gay wedding and was required to bake a cake for the gays, pay restitution, and attend sensitivity training. In other words, he had to attend essentially a re-education camp to force his acceptance of gays.

    There are more, google it and get educated.
     
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    I'm fine with people discriminating in business so long as it is a public stated policy that anyone who patronizes that business can be aware of before choosing to patronize that business.
     
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    Since I am an agnostic I should stay away from this subject. But, it is the reason I left any type of religion. In fact, more so with the type of comments that come out of American right about religion -- that has driven away more and more younger people from organized religion. True, at the age of 50 when I left the church most college people drove to nondenominational churches. Reason I never joined, it is still myth and fairy tales -- the God of Abraham is just as equal to Santa Clause. They are both fantasies of youth, but god does give ever afterlife. The afterlife, if there was an afterlife -- I hope you can still perform suicide in the afterlife: if not it will be way to painful being in heaven. Yes, the God of Abraham is not so bad, but he just has this insecurity that he wants to love me. Really, he loves me? And if he cannot love me, I go to hell? So he is insecure and has mood swings -- are you sure he is a male or a woman of the 1950's?

    But back on topic. That god, I think we should study religion but we already have the mythology department.
     
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    So the government forces him to like gays? He likes gays now?

    If he didn't want to bake cakes, perhaps he shouldn't be in the cake baking business.
     

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