Rittenhouse trial goes to opening statements after jury set

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  1. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    I wondered about that as well, given that at least two of those folks were illegally carrying firearms in violation of their parole, as well as illegally participating in a riot and arson also while on parole. Given the facts, it doesn't seem possible that either could be in a position to arrest as a citizen.
     
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    Absolutely, if a jury agrees.
     
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    As usual, you MISS the point completely.

    My only contention is that he will not be 100% Acquitted.

    He WILL be found guilty of something (even if he plea bargains it down to a Jaywalking Ticket).
     
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    I think Jury's are too malleable sometimes, especially in super hyped cases where they are likely to fear for their lives because of their verdicts. You have to recall that the reason for the riots/looting/arson was media having pushed a false narrative about a man with a knife who was under court order not to harass his ex and disobeyed the order, the orders of the police and pulled a knife on them. Those are the demonstrable facts and their burb still burned. Should we expect a jury who likely is very mindful of that be expected to produce an unpopular verdict in a burb that has already shown it doesn't care about facts?
     
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    So, you're suggesting that justice will require he be convicted. how soviet of you.
     
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    It's weird how the prosecutor never mentioned anything about Kyle crossing state lines.

    I seem to recall lots of screeching from the leftist internet lawyers about Kyle's supposed nefarious border crossing crimes, and they assured me that such heinous border hopping criminal acts were going to be highly damning.

    And yet, not a word about crossed borders, or state lines, out of the prosecution today. Nary a single peep.

    Anybody got any theories on that?

    Leftist internet lawyers? Comment?
     
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    I'm not sure what point you think you're making here. Kyle was the only one chased by a pedophile (who had previously threatened to kill him). Kyle was the only one who got hit, kicked, slashed with a skateboard, etc. by members of a mob. Yes, his experiences were unique that evening. So what?
     
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    I believe a jury of his peers can find him innocent or justified but it would depend on the circumstances and the evidence.
     
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    Lifetime protective custody?
     
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    Not sure what you mean?
     
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    The prosecutor brought up the fact that the serial child rapist was only 5' 3", and nobody took him seriously.

    I hope the pedo heard that in Hell.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obviously I would not have been there playing cop in the first place, but what do you mean by "be shot", when neither of the people he killed had a gun. The 3rd guy had one, which he did not fire, but it seems the argument here is that there is nothing wrong with having a firearm.

    I think Kyle is in trouble, but we'll just have to let the justice system process him.
     
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    It is explained in the posts you quoted. You can also google "citizens arrest".

    Sure.

    No need to pour out all the emotion at once. So, you didn't get the point even the 2nd time. What's the big deal? Just shake it off and move on.
     
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    He was an out of state 17 year old wielding an illegal weapon not registered to him.
     
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    Yes he is. Unless and until he is found guilty, at which time he will be … wait for it … guilty.
     
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    That is another thing which makes self defense stance more difficult, but not impossible. It is harder to claim self defense if you are in process of committing a crime yourself.
     
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    yeah except the mob was screaming to "cranium" him which is slang for murder him so there goes that theory
     
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    What??? He shot and killed two people!!!
     
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    I don't think its slang for murder, but obviously they believed Kyle had committed murder and was trying to flee the scene. Or do you think there was some other reason they were running after him? The guy who was shot in the arm was actually talking to him as they ran.
     
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    What part are you asking "What???" about? The "Hopefully Kyle is acquitted in short order" or something else?

    Yes, he did, and my only complaint about that is that he completely missed the third attacker and only wounded the fourth attacker. Still, 2.5/4 is not a bad night's work.
     
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    thats what happens when you attack someone with a gun.. they can defend themselves
     
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    WTF else would "cranium that boy" mean? Do you have an alternate theory, or are you just playing dumb because your narrative depends on you not understanding the obvious threats the mob was making towards Kyle?


    To harm him. That seems like the obvious motive to me. Even if you don't think it's the obvious motive, or even the most likely, if you're a rational human being you ought to be able to grasp that at a minimum it's an "other reason", right?
     
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    its slang for shot in the head, and he was running towards the police, if they wanted him arrested then all they had to do is let him run to the police and then tell them.. instead they where attacking him trying to kill him before he made it to the police
     
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    not really, its actually a gray area for him to be able to open carry at 17 in WI, The defense made a motion to dismiss that charge based on the gray area, the Judge said he would think on it in one of the pre trials. Havent heard if he ruled on that yet or not. But regardless the Judge said that was not a reason that Kyle would have to forfeit his right to self defense. The underage gun charge is only a misdemeanor but he can still claim self defense.
     
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    So do you not believe in justifiable homicide?
     

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