Ron DeSantis on what being conservative means: 'Our rights come from God, not government'

All good points.

Jesus gets serious in Matthew's record of what Jesus said in Matthew 25:31 - end.

He points out to his followers, the Christians of the day, that they have to walk the walk. They do have to accept Jesus as who he claimed to be. But, that is not the end, according to Jesus.

By failing to walk the walk, Jesus says his followers risk hell, right along with Satan. Jesus laid out what he meant in that passage.

What he laid out IS essentially a summary of how Jesus led his life and what he stated in other places in the NT.

I respect what you've said above! I don't accept these passages as an indication that people of today should carry lethal weapons without restrictions in our society as it is today.

 

Good enough, we're all welcome to our viewpoint. In our system, the inherent right to lethal self-defense is specifically recognized and regulations are presumed invalid 'unless the government can demonstrate that the law or regulation is necessary to achieve a "compelling state interest". The government must also demonstrate that the law is "narrowly tailored" to achieve that compelling purpose, and that it uses the "least restrictive means" to achieve that purpose.'

And where the government does not regulate, we all have the freedom to come to our own decisions on the matter.

 

Your natural rights are inherent just the same.

And that was the point the Founders were making in the Preamble of the DOI, which was hardly an original concept at the time. We are all born with our natural rights - they are not privileges that can be dispensed and denied by government or society even though many in our government and society are either unwilling or unable to make the distinction between the two.

 

Representative democracy is BULL. Capitalism, taxation, codified law, agriculture based society, logic based examination of nature—all BULL. Dude, practically EVERYTHING about our current society is modeled on ancient world practices and discoveries. The concept of patient questioning, examination of urine/feces/etc. and then diagnosing/treating based on evidence was developed by Egyptians thousands of years before the time of Jesus.

The notion we are smarter or more advanced technologically than ancient civilizations is absurd. We can’t even back engineer most of the ancient architecture we know about and we find more advanced stuff all the time. We are morons compared to ancient civilizations. Most of our civilization today is copied from ancients and we would be fools not to look to ancient civilizations for more models.

 

That's according to evolved human nature, the desire to determine our own destiny. It isn't about an imaginary supreme being.

 

It's about our fundamental individual natural rights being our inherent and unalienable birthrights, not privileges that can be granted or denied by other people.

It's also about our social contract - that individuals have inherent and unalienable natural rights and our government was instituted to secure those rights. When government violates those rights, it violates the social contract.

 

I don't disagree with any of that.