Ron Paul: Muslim extremists do not go to Switzerland and Sweden

How out of touch is this guy? There are literally places in Malmo and other Swedish cities where police and fire fighters do not go, because the neighborhoods are controlled by Islamic extremists. The same can be said in many European countries. I guess Ron Paul didn't hear about the 2010 Stockholm bombings. I guess he never heard about Lars Vilks being attacked and forced into hiding for drawing cartoons about Muhammad.

The idea that there are no Islamic extremists in places like Sweden is ridiculous.

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Plain and simply Ron Paul is a dangerous nut. We can't allow him to win even if it means letting Obuma win in his place.

 

I think you need to differentiate between "Islamic extremist" and "disenfranchised youths who happen to be muslims". It's also worth noting that there are "no-go" areas in US cities, where predominently the ethinic minorities are hispanic and black.

In terms of Sweden, while the Swedes from my experience of working there, are nice people, their society is to a large degree socially engineered. Swedes are quite peculiar people really (not in a bad way), they are very considered and they rarely do anythin in a rash manner. You really need to have a certain mindset to integrate there and I think it was naive of the Swedes to believe that they could expect people from other societies (ME) to integrate. The Swedes have failed in this regard.

 

You're taking it out of context when he says no Terrorists have attacked those Free Countries and to say that "No Go" Communities for Firefighters is similar to Terrorist bombings is an extreme stretch.

"...Yeah, there are some radicals. But they don’t come here to kill us because we’re free and prosperous. Do they go to Switzerland and Sweden? That is absurd."

 

Again, you're twisting his words. He's saying that terrorist organizations have not launched attacks against the Swedish state. Do you really believe that the US government's actions overseas have no effect on how the US is perceived overseas? If so, you simply don't understand human nature.

 

I think what RP was trying to say, and he was totally correct, was that Islam doesn't 'hate' us because of our prosperity and freedom. They hate us because we've been bombing the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of the Muslim countries for like 50 years.

War mongerers like Bachmann and Santorum will continue to spread fear by pushing this conception that we are in some kind of culture war. RP has it right, the best way to achieve peace between the west and Islam is to take a non-interventionist stance. We dont need 900 military bases, we dont need to bomb every country on the map, and we dont need any more GOD (*)(*)(*)(*) WARS!

 

Does Paul know how hard it is to immigrate or even stay in Switzerland ?
The visa and paper checks..their version of the Patriot Act ?
Does he realize their own prosperous position can be traced to mandatory military service by both men and women ?
That gun ownership is not only wanted but a law ?
That their closed society offers no room for terrorist to travel..invest..integrate ..or assimilate into their society like their moles here do ?

Does either one of those countries have a Mexico in its border ?
One that forces its own people and criminals to leave ?
Paul is out of touch...maybe he should write a travel book before talking as an expert On these countries.

 

First you are correct, second I love your avatar (great game), third I would much rather spend the military resources we have protecting our borders and sea lanes then sending million dollar drones to bomb 19th century villages.

 

I see the anti-liberty crowd has to resort to lies and moronic propaganda to try and discredit Ron Paul. Are there no real issues you can use to make your points?

 

Extremist Muslims declared war on us. To not acknowledge that is a problem, and suicidal. They didn't start hating the West just within the last 50 years. Fundamental Islam has been at war with non-Muslims since the 7th century. Unfortunately, there is too much ignorance surrounding the history of Islamic aggression for people to acknowledge simple truths about the enemy we face. You are dreaming if you think they will suddenly become our peaceful allies if we leave their lands. That's not the way they work.

We don't bomb every country, by the way. That's hyperbole to the point of ridiculousness.

 

I see his hero worshippers are out in full force.

 

Were we hero worshipers we would be willing to resort to lies and falsehoods to hoist him atop our shoulders. How are you defending and promoting Romney and Newt Gingrich again?

 

Who says I am promoting Romney and Gingrich? Sounds like you are resorting to lies and falsehoods right now.

 

I rightly put all of Ron Paul's enemies into a single basket because they are all enemies of liberty and our American revolution. If you're so against Ron Paul there isn't a single Founding Father you can support without hypocritical contradictions.

It doesn't matter who you support. If it's not Ron Paul they're all the same.

 

So, lies and falsehoods, then? Sounds like I was spot on with the hero worship charge, according to your own definition of the term.

 

To call Ron Paul a Nut......



.....is to call America's Finest a bunch of kook supporters.

Im betting all you chickenhawks and sunday armchair generals would appreciate Ron a little more if the day would come when your ass was on the line and being shot at.....promoting the foreign policy you so greatly believe in from your Lazy-Boy.
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To support Ron Paul's foreign policy to to support the idea that we can be a friend of Iran, and that the genocidal maniac in Iran can be reasoned with, even while he has his fingers on a nuclear weapon. To support Ron Paul's foreign policy is to think that China building aircraft carriers for the purpose of war (according to them), means it's a great time to slash our military to the bone.

Ron Paul did not support Reagan's actions to help defeat the Soviet Union in the 80's. I wonder what disastrous consequences would have occurred if we did nothing to counter Soviet aggression during the Cold War, which is what Ron Paul advocated for.

 

We are allies with Germany and Japan....

Iran does not have a Nuke.....

Ron Paul never called for slashing the military to the bone. He believes in a strong national defense.

Anything else you want me to correct you on?

 

How do you draw battle lines against Extremist Muslims?? I understand they are our enemy, but when will we learn you cannot fight Terrorism with Tanks?

If we did a better job of staying out of other countries business and stopped trying to enforce our will on middle east nations we would all be so much safer.

 

So? What does that have to do with Iran and Ahmadinejad? You're honestly comparing him and Iran with industrialized Western countries like Germany and Japan?

You won't be able to say that in less than a year, according to most reports on the matter. Regardless, Paul's position is that, even with a nuke, Iran poses no threat, and they can be our diplomatic ally.

Double digit percentage cuts to military, at a time when China and Iran are showing their aggressiveness towards us, is Paul's position. Closing all foreign bases would reduce our ability to mobilize our troops, if we had to.

You haven't yet, but you can keep trying.

 

He will cut military spending drastically and close down foreign bases, reducing our ability to mobilize our forces if we need to.

If you really want to act like Reagan's actions toward building up our nuclear arsenal and military technology had no affect in stopping the Soviets in the Cold War, you are beyond hope. The hero worship has rotted away the vital sections of your thinking. Nice of you to obfuscate the issue by randomly throwing in Vietnam, though.

"A little out there". Iran is a tinderbox of Islamic fundamentalism and extremism, two things Ron Paul and his supporters don't know enough about, in my opinion. They are financing terrorism around the region and financing groups like Hezbollah to fight proxy wars against Israel and our allies. You paint an overly rosy picture of our Iranian friends at your own peril, and the peril of world security in general.

Wait, didn't you have a Nazi avatar just a few days ago? And you are talking to me about being taken seriously? That's rich.

Keep pretending Islamonazis are not our enemy. If we're nice to them, they'll leave us alone!

 

The fact that we were at war with Germany and Japan and now they are our allies?

Did you forget that little thing in history called WW2?

How is Iran showing aggression? By saying if they are attacked they will retaliate? Wouldnt anyone?

 

" You cant fight terrorism with tanks "
OK fine..you take a sling shot..I'll take Our main battle tank.

You cant fight terrorist without the Patriot Act either.
You take your constitution and narrow focus...

and I'll vote to keep All of us safe.
I can afford to be wrong.
YOU cant.