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I have a strong sense that you should have held sessions in hypocrisy.
Few psychologists would ever describe political opposition as "hatred", a blunt and meaningless word.
Nor would they criticise those who hold different views as not having sympathy for yours. By their very nature they LISTEN and are never judgemental.
Your posts OTOH hope that others will change and "give in" to your POV.
I can tell you that accusing them of hatred isn't going to do it.
You just betray yourself as a very blunt and uninspiring instrument. A good psychologist would know this.
So as far as I can see, you have achieved very little.

 

It would be nice to believe he's a tRumpist desperate to maintain his bubble of deniability so that he can worship Benedict Donald and still claim sanity. I'm sure there are many people like that, but Conny isn't one of them. Condoor is just a paid shill sent out to put out the fires every time tRiump steps on his dick ... again. For a guy with little hand's he sure keeps Condoor busy.

 

What's important is what is true and what is right. Makes no difference who has that ability- but if you don't you will be offended by those who do.
The person who lives in a box is not in a position to see where and how they live until they can actually leave it and look back. That is true mentally far more than physically. Perspective changes with position; if you cannot leave where you are at, even temporarily, you can never really see yourself. If you are unable to accept that because it doesn't fit into what you already believe or want to believe, you have an internal problem and nobody can fix that but you. That would not make you the exception, but the norm.... which explains why, despite all our special skills and efforts, we are the most confused creatures on the planet. You have lots of company.

Your response was predetermined because you could do nothing else, given your mindset. No surprise- and of no importance or relevance.
And that is not an insult at all- it's observation. Very difficult for people to see themselves realistically.

What YOU know is important to all of us. Because to the extent you are part of society, you make things better or worse for everyone, depending on the accuracy of what you think you know, which controls how you behave.

This is true of everyone. If I help another person to find and develop their own power- to improve and strengthen themselves- I've improved the world I live in. It's not about winning the argument, it's about being correct in the understanding and supporting what is true so that the world can change for the better. It's self serving to want others to thrive rather than languish in their own misconceptions. I'm guilty of that, and I have invested a lot of time and money to back it up. I'm still doing it, everyday.

IF you can do that, you will thrive- but you must be in the proper state of mind before you can do it. Then, you thrive not only financially, but in terms of knowing yourself, having full control of your destiny and being happy with who you are- and finding that when you know and like that, what others think or do doesn't diminish it at all; you are kind of bulletproof. That too pisses some people off; they feel it's unfair that others can have that when they can't find it, no matter how hard they try- and that they can't find a button on you to cause you similar pain to their own. Few however are willing to leave the security of the box, travel the path they have feared without knowing why, and looking back for a new perspective. Thus.... nothing changes for most, despite the fact it's possible for everyone.

Takes courage. Takes time. The majority of people don't have enough of either, and refuse to reorder their priorities to make it possible. I know why- because I've been there, but I'm very fortunate- an exception to the rule. I did what most people could do, but will not do. I ignored the fear, and accepted the risk. Fear, not wisdom, controls the decision. It keeps you where you are at; It insures you will never gain a new perspective, and it requires you tell yourself you are right to stay there, tells you to reject the suggestion that things might be different than you believe they are. It insures you will never have a perspective that is not severely distorted by the fear- and will be unable to question it.

What I know is indeed important too, because I have been where most all others have been, but I learned how to change it. Knowing that is the most important knowledge there is.
What I think does not limit you- what you think limits you. Think about changing that. Give yourself a chance.

 

A psychologist has a most difficult task- leading people out of the dark, into a place of light, of legitimate understanding. No matter how far off the patient is, they dare not directly challenge their position- because those people would immediately reject the effort and walk away.. So the psychologist tolerates a great deal of stupidity along the way.
Personally, I found that to be wasted effort. IF a person is not ready to look at themselves honestly and take on the challenge, there's nothing that will help until they are. Dancing around the truth serves no real purpose, other than to keep the revenue flowing. The protocol of psychology does not include directly telling you why you are doing things wrong, even if you walk in and ask for exactly that. What's more- like every other profession, many psychologists don't know; don't have the skill and understanding to know. Many have become psychologists in the pursuit of trying to understand who they are, solve their own problems.. and become the blind attempting to lead the blind. There are some very good ones, and some very poor ones.
I'm not a psychologist, but I am a person extensively involved in psychology, and who has taught my specialty in the field. Unlike a psychologist, I don't dance around the points.

IF everyone could see things accurately, they could and would make better decisions and the world wouldn't be in a mess. Since it is in a mess- it should be obvious to a rational person that most of what we do and think is appropriate- is deeply flawed in process.
And hatred isn't a political position, it's an emotional one- that in today's political environment has been promoted into a political weapon. It's still hate, just out of place in an ethical society, which the left has worked hard to destroy. They have made it what it is today. The idea I can improve that by avoiding hurting the feelings of the people who make it so.... is ludicrous.

What others believe is important to me because we shape the world with views- and while healthy views create healthy worlds, unhealthy views create hellish worlds.
It's not important you agree with me.... it's important that you have the ability to develop a healthy view, and through that to contribute positively to society. I know what it takes to have that ability, but the form can have many variables. If your views and ideas differ from mine but actually work and improve the world- I will support them. IF.

The first psychologist I ever spoke to came to my Lifeskills class, to learn more about what I was teaching, I think it was 1980. He came because one of his clients who had been in therapy for years suddenly made a break-through, and lot of progress. When he asked her what had changed, he learned she was my student. I had many psychologists come to my classes over the years I taught. That first one asked to spend a couple hours with me privately, and I agreed. At one point he told me that what I had done was impossible, couldn't be done. I asked him why he thought that- and he because it would take courage bordering on heroism, sustained for years. Quite a compliment, and I disagreed at the time- but he was right in many ways. I've never had one disagree with what I taught.

I didn't teach a "point of view". I taught process of developing your capacity, to correct the factors controlling thinking to where you could arrive at valid points of view. We all make decisions, large and small everyday. What's important is not the particular choice you make- but that the choice is a valid, wise one that will achieve the purpose. Your purpose, not mine. So long as that objective is respectable and doesn't infringe on the rights of others, more power to you.

People's minds are in many ways comparable to computers- hardware operations, directed by software programming. If your programming or input is garbage, the output is garbage, and the computer does not see the difference. We can add, delete and select most programs... conscious thought and choices. But part of the programming is embedded and invisible; and you as the operator are completely unaware of it- but it affects all the processes and output. It controls what options you can see and select from for your decisions. IF those embedded values say 2+2 =5, then all the programming operations will use that math, and you will find yourself in constant conflict with all who do not have the same corrupted value. The ability for the software to produce the right results (right options and decisions) depends on those embedded values.... similar to your sub-conscious ones. I learned how to re-program my sub-conscious values, replace flawed principles with flawless ones. That doesn't determine a point of view- all it does is to insure you are using accurate tools to get there. That does of course put me in conflict with a lot of people who must insist that it must be my values that are wrong, because- they can't get there or see it from where they are at. It's intimidating to believe it's possible, so they won't.

That is precisely why you don't agree- despite the fact, unknown to you of course, that what I believe has been producing winning results for over 40 years now, in every aspect of my life. The psychologist was right when he said I had done the impossible. But not because the right answers are so hard to find, but because they are so deeply buried with garbage in most minds that the person can't believe they exist.
Somehow, I came to that conclusion somewhat by accident; of being exposed to undeniable examples of it, and I started by throwing out the garbage- and that is the hard part, because mostly we believe in that garbage; bad as it is- it is the known, the only consistency most people have, and they fear walking away from it.

Is your life working well, keeping you at peace despite being in the midst of mindless turmoil, still thriving? Happy with it? Genuinely know and like who you are?
Ask those questions when you are alone in the dark of night and can be honest with yourself.

 

Yes, you are very awesome.

However, I think you should heed some of your own advice and stop the programming of your mind that is telling you that the election was stolen from Trump. Remember: Garbage in - garbage out. That would be a start in escaping the box that you have put yourself into.

 

Interesting!

 

SlipNslide is to full of himself to recognize the irony of his own posts.

 

Do you charge by the hour for your self righteous lectures?
Sorry but you wouldn't find me paying a nickel for that long winded self reflection.
As I said, the facile assumption that people HATE each other (an emotional experience as you say) for political opinions (which you say is inappropriate) makes your repeated accusations of such hatred a clear contradiction of your own virtue signalling.
I suggest you write down all the things you recommend to others and then learn how to apply them to your own good self.
If you think people hate each other for their politics I suggest you check out of your clinic, either as counsellor or patient, and get a job in the real world.

And BTW your asking questions about self fulfillment are ancient. Nothing revealing or original. In fact quite pedestrian.
The better question is "do you respect what others find is fulfilling" .
Because ISTM you spend an inordinate amount of time telling them they are wrong when they don't vote your way.

 

That is based on your assumption that you are right- and I am wrong.
The people involved here have demonstrated a total and viscous hate for Trump from the day he announced he would run.
Everything Trump did or said was distorted and reported and repeated to imply the hate was just justifiable fact. They manufactured it like a commodity- and peddled it to the people who don't think things over very well. The "dossier" was proven to be a fake, purposely constructed to create the impression was using the Russians- and it was so constructed by the democrats, the opposition candidate even paying and directing this. Other things followed suit- with one scheme after another played out to discredit Trump with fabricated information and half truths- by the same people.

Apparently, you don't see that as a statement of their character, nor believe that people who would do those things would be capable or inclined to manipulate votes.

HOW could you possibly arrive at such a conclusion? I refuse to believe you aren't smart enough to see that, so HOW is it possible you support the premise they wouldn't use the same kind of strategy, with the same kind of moral vacuum they had been using all along?

Programming your mind as I describe.... is not telling it what to think, but how to think. It does not determine the conclusions you reach by your decisions- only the validity of the thought process used to reach them. No different than using an accurate scale to weigh things instead of one that is erratic and inconsistent- and in the case of judgement, knowing the person who conned you everyday this week is not going to be honest or different next week.

You should perhaps ask yourself why people believing the election was rigged intimidate you, as it does many people. That strikes me as a person who fears somebody will find something they don't want exposed- which, while slow, has already been happening with things such as the Durham investigation. "Trust me it's all correct, so don't bother counting it.... " Not really a reassurance coming from the people who have a track record of scams. And that's not about Trump, it's about the process of rigging an election- which if successful once, will be done again and again. Is that what you endorse? Anything goes, as long as it's well hidden? And of course, fits into what you want to believe? Yeah. It's got to do that, or it's a lie.....

 

I usually base my opinion of evidence. If there would be evidence that the election was rigged by Dems, I would be very upset about this. However, there is ZERO evidence.

You, however, are basing your conclusion that the election was rigged on feelings, and propaganda fed to you by Trump and RW media. I would recommend to remove yourself from this box, because it is constantly programming your mind. The mere notion that Dems are all "haters" is fed to you by those RW media outlets.

Look, everyone has their biases and misconceptions. I do too. However, I do not place myself on a pedestal, claiming that I am an unbiased, outside observer, like you do, when it is actually clear from your posts that you are VERY immersed in RW group think.

 

I only charged when I did programs for companies. Classes for individuals- were free, so I would not have taken your nickel anyway. Unfortunate you see it as self-righteous, because it was always for the benefit of others, not myself.

I'm inclined to say your lack of comprehension here is amazing, but it's not. If one could be totally uninvolved, something like an intelligent alien coming to assess conditions on earth- they would see that the planet has an infestation of troubled humans, that among all living things on the planet is the only one that cannot manage it's own affairs, cannot understand itself, cannot thrive despite using up all the natural resources, despite preying on itself and borrowing on their children's future... and cannot learn to do better. That of course is because they are so smart, so wise, so efficient.... or so they tell themselves. Somehow- they never ask what's really wrong. The question is too scary for most.

I quit teaching because of the small percentage of people who were capable, who were actually ready to grow. Too many were like you- who would see something that should make them ask questions about how they might have similar success, but instead can only defend not doing so. Insures you won't have to consider trying. Nothing new, seen it a thousand times.

As for a real world job... I'm semi-retired, a small-firm CEO that doesn't put in a lot of hours. My income taxes exceed most incomes, so I don't need a job. I still share what I know when the right kind of person asks for a hand up, and I still don't charge for it.

 

When you say there is no evidence- what do you qualify as evidence? It's not what Trump said, it's what we all saw- the difference is in how we look at it.
If you watched a magician make a woman disappear, would you say it was genuine magic because you don't know how it was done, could not prove it was a trick? I don't think so, but you would lack "evidence".
Yet, you see a candidate draw crowds that never exceed a hundred or two, while his competitor consistently draws tens of thousands.
You watch one candidate stay in his basement, avoid interviews, watch him stumble and mumble his way through those he has to take, demonstrate a state of confusion... while his opponent is clear and sharp and taking every opportunity to reach the public.
Then, you watch the sudden chaos at some election facilities; the sudden discovery of cases of uncounted ballots that are heavily for the basement candidate, the urgent blocking of oversight, the denial of access.
Maybe, you even read the history of election statistics which predict how some campaign factors such as those common to Bidens campaign never result in victories, or even close showings.
Then- Biden is declared a winner, and you think there is nothing wrong? That would be like declaring the magician a genuine sorcerer.
You wouldn't do that. You might not know how the trick was done, might not be able to produce hard evidence, but you damn sure know it was a trick.
That is the essence of the election. The impossible didn't really happen, and we don't know exactly how- but we do know it wasn't magic. That leaves- trickery; fraud.
And because the left has a proven history of trickery and fraud, you know it's no accident.

Now none of that is "hard" evidence. But dismissing it is kind of like standing in a burnt out forest and denying there was a fire, because nobody saw the fire and no fire is present now.
Way too many abnormalities and odd conditions around the election to say it was legit. I think no person honest with themselves, and actually unbiased, could say otherwise.

And I'm not a republican, nor do I reach my conclusions as they reach theirs. Technically I consider myself an independent, and a conservative, at least as I define the term. For many, it's not them leaving the party- it's the party leaving them. I have always voted for what I thought the best candidate on the ballot. I've voted for many democrats, and I did vote for Obama. Later regretted it, but often- nether candidate is ideal, just the least of evils. But I don't make that decision on party, at least, until recently. I've seen the parties and interests on the left become so anti-American lately, it would be hard to vote for anyone who associated themselves with that mentality. I'm not "immersed in group think" because I hold republicans to the same standards as democrats, and those standards are first ones of honesty, integrity, and the values that make a society work. While both have problems, the right is a lot closer to that than the left, and thus you would see me as supporting the right- but no, it is the right supporting values I respect. When they don't, the fact they are republicans is irrelevant to me. That said- I doubt we have anyone in congress today who meets the standards that should be required of all of them. The problem is that when rules aren't enforced, there are no rules- and honest or not, if you are in that game, you will have no chance unless you play it, cheat at it, better than they do. We need to change that.

I like to think most of us are smart enough to place wisdom, integrity and ability above party or personality, because we are hiring skills for a critical job. I've come to doubt that as well; in part because some of the people in Congress today exhibit a total lack of those qualities, and it was obvious during their campaigns- which makes me wonder about the voters who put them in office.

IF the nation is going to survive, that has to stop- on both sides. I think you understand that.

 

None of this is evidence.

 

And you still miss the inyourface fact that what you think is wrong with others is clearly and amply obvious in what you write.
Except other people don't do the conceit and arrogance as well.
And BTW, wealth has never impressed me. It has nothing to do with integrity or self knowledge. Your hero Trump is a good example.

 

He will be telling you next that all the investigations that turned up nothing were part of a nationwide plot coordinated to defeat Trump because Dems hate him...
Yet he also said somewhere buried in his interminably long winded lectures that hatred is emotional and does not belong in politics.
Conspiracy theories plus insisting you have the definitive answer to the secrets of truth where no one else does is a common case of arrogant blindness.
I take no lectures from he who accuses others of what he himself does.

 

Unfortunately- nothing you have put forward tells me you understand any of this.
And, I don't think anything impresses you except as an opportunity to tell people they are wrong.
I consider that a sad situation- but it's your choice.

IF i were to simplify all I've said, put it a single sentence- it would be that it's difficult to do anything right when you have no way to know what that is.

 

I tell people they are wrong?? When you then tell me I have no idea of what being right is??
Do you have any concept of total contradiction of yourself?
I am not going to rise to your fishing for some righteous justification for whatever you think this is about.
I suggested you stop assuming Democrats borh individually and collectively hate Trump.
As YOU said, hate is an emotional term which has no place in politics.
So try to follow your own teachings and find some subtlety in your understanding of the world around you.

 

And yet the left lionized the people who knelt for the national anthem.

 

I'm telling you you have no idea what I'm saying. No understanding. Not my problem that you don't understand what was said, and your problem only if you make it so.
Not understanding makes criticism and conclusions about it- meaningless.

There's no contradiction in my points,either. I'm an extremely consistent person in terms of values and reasoning.
That however does create a perception of contradiction with someone whose values and reasoning are inconsistent and fluid- situation ethics.

I live by three rules. Easy to remember, I can write them on a business card- and they always work. They are my rules, for me- Only yours if you make them so. They are natural principles, not man-made invented ones. Since most people think there are a thousand or more rules and can't possibly live up to them, I'm used to people unable to understand how three work, when a thousand do not.
I'm not better than they are- just farther down the road in understanding how our minds work, and very fortunate to be there.
The only person you need to get approval from is you. Few people do, and those who aren't are always in conflict one way or another because they lack it.
And I don't care where you are at- until what you do causes conflict for others, makes life more difficult for everyone. I'm likely to object to that.

I observe what people do. I figure out where their heads are at, which is directly related to what they do, and that tells me how they think. Knowing that makes them uncomfortable, they think it's invasive and unfair.
I'm used to it.

 

Do you truly not understand why that's contradictory? Please reread your post. Seriously?

 

Don't worry, Pixie. I got about three manifestoes lecturing me for not being racist. I forgot all the fun adjectives he used but it was about 15 ways to say "stupid".

Consider yourself standing on the "right side" (not politically) on this one.

 

Noooo! "The Left", defended their right to free speach. The right did everything but tar and feather them. Then used the flag that was the object of the anthem to beat the **** out of police officers they "professed" to support.

 

You have no idea what you're saying, how would anyone else? Because you pontificate endlessly, doesn't mean you make any sense.

 

Putin is a former intelligence operative. He likely is smart and savvy he'd have to be in order to do that job.

Is anybody that doesn't call him a stupid head somehow a Russian spy?

 

If just for a short while you stopped making value judgements about people you have no understanding of, toned down your arrogance and stop pretending you make any difference at all to anything, you may if you are generous, understand that
Nothing you say or lecture about or proclaim is in any way new, revealing, prophetic or in any way constructive.
It is instead well worn, fundamental cognitive psychology tinged with hints of hippie self examination theories and stuff you can find in many women's magazines.
At my age I can assure you that I have, as a teacher of literature which is fully concerned with understanding ones inner thoughts and motivations and fully gone through any process of inner meditation and self recognition/understanding you could name. I have understood the thoughts and feelings of hundreds if not thousands of intelligent articulate people over a thousand years of experiences. There isn't much they missed.
I also have learned how to spot mouthy people who think they can tell others what they are and how to live their lives simply by interacting with them ON AN INTERNET DISCUSSION GROUP after a few interchanges.
I have learned to spot superficial arrogance and a distinct lack of any understanding beyond the simplisticly obvious. Seriously, you have nothing to offer that has not been commonly known for a generation or more.
My word of advice to you before someone hits you...stop telling people you don't know, your secrets to a happy and fulfilled life.
Because you don't have the first idea about them.
And next time you think you are some sort of general guru, button it. No one is interested. I take no lectures from amateurs who take it upon themselves to treat others as inferior and then think they are martyrs because others tell them to push off.
Don't insult me with freshman analysis mate. Instead learn to LISTEN instead of TELL. You might actually learn something.