Russian Flags Raised In Ukraine's South- How Far Will This Go?

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  1. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You weren't aloud to go abroad to meet people from other countries. I bet you had to carry papers just to enter another neighborhood, and if you didn't have those papers your friends and neighbors would report you for fear that if they didn't they'd go to jail. What a lovely way to live.

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    No, they failed to do their job!!!
     
  2. KGB agent

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    It is "allowed" in English. Inferior education striking again?=)))
    [video=youtube;m_mDTLphIVY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_mDTLphIVY[/video]
    Lies.
    Ah, bets is everything you have if you were expelled from primary school.
     
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    It doesn't look they are failing.
     
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    How far Russian troops are ready to go? To Morocco, of course. Why? Because there are growing mandarins, who are hungry and angry Russians never ate. It is terrible to imagine, as the Russian tanks were crawling in the Alps, and riding with great speed on the European motorways. Evil Empire wants to take over Africa, America, Antarctica, and the moon. But lunatics will not allow to do it. They will answer all the might of their army. And courageous Moroccans eat their mandarins before the arrival of Russian aggressors.
     
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    I am a resident of the Crimea.

    Why are Western countries support the fascist regime?

    Ukraine had occupied the Crimea in 1994. In 1994, Ukraine introduced in Crimea almost 60,000 soldiers and border troops of the National Guard. President Crimea was forced to flee the country. Crimean parliament stripped of almost all authority. Violently forced us to learn Ukrainian language.


    Now to power in Ukraine by the coup came Fascists.
    They destroy the monuments of the Second World War. They allowed the glorification of fascism. And threatened to destroy the Russian-speaking residents.

    Residents of the Crimea, to thank Russian federation, for the fact that she defended the Crimea.
     
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  6. SyrianGirl1982

    SyrianGirl1982 New Member

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    You know nothing.

    Why was Russian language banned in Ukraine after this new government took over? How you going to explain that?

    They thought they could push the Russians and intimidate them. Thank god the Russians stood up and pushed back!

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26398112

    Tell me what is your reaction to this video! Or you think these guys aren't serious at all!
     
  7. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look at what has happened in nations where Baathists gave been ousted ?
    Chaos.
    Citizens killing citizens.
    Sure we would like a "fairyland" democracy for all. But, it does not work that way.
    Those mean old authoritarian Baathist kept a lid on sectarian, tribal, etc. warfare within their nations.
    Baathist are Arabia's only hope for a truly secular government. Equally nasty to all without regard for . . . .
    There is no FairyLand alternative, only civil war.

    If I were an Iraqi or Syrian father, just trying to earn a living and security for my family -
    I would not be better off because America intervened in my nation - would I? Far worse.

    Welcome to reality, aka Realpolitik.


    Moi :oldman:
    Ukraine = Russia like Palestine = Jordan.




    No :flagcanada:


    PS I hope I got this lesson right, SyrianGirl taught me.
    Better a secular, authoritarian Baathist than a democratically elected Islamist
     
  8. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm shocked that the BBC would show what's really going on, instead of just Putin bashing. It's not just the Russians the Nazis want to get rid of. I know the Greeks in Ukraine are panic stricken and applying for Russian passports. The gangsters in Kiev are doing what the Albanians did in Kosovo after we supported them. Thank God for Russia.

    So here's a bit of Russian revenge. The U.S. and E.U. decided to give the pseudo government in Kiev one and a half billion to carry them over, so Putin sent them a gas bill for that amount and they have to pay it because the winter isn't over yet.

    But look, the E.U. is getting their just deserves. Whenever they would forward a large loan to Greece, instead of the money going to the people and helping them out, it went right back to Germany to buy arms because of Turkish threats. Let them just keep on paying.
     
  9. wyly

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    they've attacked a sovereign nation, that's the epitomy of aggresive imperialism...
     
  10. SyrianGirl1982

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    Also the new illegitimate government in Kiev has been setting free murderers. They released 2 murderers who killed a son of a high ranking judge. Now these nazi gangsters are going around Kiev threatening and beating up judges, officials and doing whatever they want. There is a video of a nazi beating a top level prosecutor and threatening him while holding an AK-47 and a pistol.

    I ask everyone, is this democracy? Why does the pathetic West immediately recognize this illegitimate government? Because they are idiots and hypocritical scumbags.

    A government elected by Ukrainians was overthrown and a bunch of nazi sympathizers took over. Destroyed whole city! Killed policemen! Yet this is democracy? Do Americans realize how stupid they look supporting this?

    Yet Russian Army moving into Crimea peacefully and without 1 person hurt is aggression? Open your eyes. People in Crimea and Eastern Ukraine don't want to be obeying the nazis. That is why they raising Russian flags and saying they obey Russia. Russia will protect them.

    Thanks Russia for standing up and pushing back! Syrians also thank you for supporting us. Without Russia, Syria would not exist right now.
     
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    Should I remind you about:

    Korea 1950s
    Vietnam 1960s-1970s
    Grenada 1982
    Nicaragua 1980s
    Iraq 1991
    Yugoslavia 1990s
    Kosovo 1999
    Iraq 2003

    ......yet you have the nerve of complaining about Russian aggression. How is ti aggrression when they are being welcomed with open arms by Eastern Ukraine!
     
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    wyly Well-Known Member

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    are you trying to define stupidity?...a country is free to enact whatever laws it pleases, a canadian province has effectively banned english should we expect an american invasion at any moment?...russia persecutes gays and political dissenters and now you want to proclaim them the saviors of human rights, completely absurd and stupid idea...Putin cares nothing for human rights, this a blatent land grab and nothing more...

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    Russia is a fascist regime...
     
  13. SyrianGirl1982

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    Can Quebec ban English language in Ontario? No

    Can Ontario ban French language in Quebec? No

    Western Ukraine (Ukrainian speaking region) is banning Russian language in Eastern Ukraine (Russian speaking region)

    Don't try to pretend to be stupid!
     
  14. DrewBedson

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    North Korea attacks South Korea and the UN steps in. Hardly attacking a nation but rather defending one.

    Same as above.

    All out civil strife and the US steps in at the request and authority of the Organization of Eastern Caribbean States (OECS), as well as the nations of Barbados and Jamaica.

    Like Iran in Iraq today.

    No, Kuwait asking the UN to help in order to get Iraq to stop invading them.


    Averting a civilian Holocaust.


    Enforcing UNSC Chapter Seven Resolutions.


    I is not their right to separate Eastern Ukraine from Western Ukraine nor enter the nation without the agreement of the government of the entire Ukraine.
     
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    The legitimate elected government was overthrown by nationalists and criminals! The West was quick to recognize the new criminal government!

    What more do you want?

    Do you understand the basic thing is that the elected government was illegally overthrown by force?
    Do you have any ideas that Ukrainian Army is no more? Ukrainian Army in Eastern Ukraine does not recognize the illegitimate government in Kiev?

    The bigggest warship in Ukrainian Navy abandoned live exercises with NATO near Turkey and sailed back to Crimea. The sailors and commanders on the ship declared they no longer obey illegitimate Ukrainian government. Not only that, but they took down their Ukr flag and installed a Russian flag. They declared themselves loyal to Russian Navy.
     
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    So let me get this straight, Russia sends military troops into a sovereign nation but somehow this is not aggression?

    Last time I checked you can't send troops over boarders without permission from the current government and it NOT be a act of war.

    I think I may be missing something how this government illegitimate?
     
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    So it's perfectly fine with you that it's perfectly fine that a nation can invade a sovereign nation. Glad to get you on record.
     
  18. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is no Ukrainian army either, because the Nazis in Kiev are suspicious of their loyalty. They are dependent now on Mercenaries. Any other nation would have solved the problem a long time ago and separated into two countries, but these people like the true Nazis they are, want the whole country and want it to be a pure Ukrainian race...whatever that is? :roll:
     
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    Ukrainian Navy flagship takes Russia’s side – report

    Ukraine’s Navy flagship, the Hetman Sahaidachny frigate, has reportedly refused to follow orders from Kiev, and come over to Russia’s side and is returning home after taking part in NATO operation in the Gulf of Aden flying the Russian naval flag.

    There has been conflicting information on where exactly the vessel is, but a Russian senator has confirmed to Izvestia daily that the frigate defected to the Russian side.

    Ukraine’s Navy flagship the Hetman Sahaidachny has come over to our side today. It has hung out the St Andrew’s flag,” Senator Igor Morozov, a member of the committee on the international affairs, told Izvestia daily.

    He said the flagship is on its way back to the Black Sea after drills in the Mediterranean. “The crew has fulfilled the order by the chief commander of Ukraine’s armed forces Viktor Yanukovich,” he added.

    The move comes after the Navy command resigned Friday. Self-appointed President Aleksandr Turchinov made Rear Admiral Denis Berezovsky the new Navy Chief, a statement published on the President’s website Saturday said.

    ****niy Yatsenyuk, the Prime Minister of Ukraine had earlier asked his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan not to let the frigate through the Bosporus strait, according to the Kiev Times. The ship captain and the head of Ukraine’s contingent in the operation, Rear Admiral Andrey Tarasov disobeyed orders from Kiev.

    The Hetman Sahaidachny returns to Sevastopol, Crimea after taking part in a joint counter-piracy operation with NATO and the EU off the Horn of Africa, reported UNN on Friday, citing Ukraine’s Defense Ministry. On February 26, after crossing the Suez Canal, the ship entered the Mediterranean Sea and was expected to be in Sevastopol in early March.
     
  20. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We invaded Serbia didn't we in support of the Albanian terrorists? But then we make a habit of supporting terrorists, we're doing it in Syria, and now to boot we're supporting Nazis as well. :roll:
     
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    ah putin cares more about Russian people and it culture and stands up to it.. then most other countrys, that went New gay Feminist world globlistic[​IMG]
    and corporational banker loving [video=youtube;fK4PcBSDFiA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK4PcBSDFiA[/video]
     
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    Yes, that's right. As a Syrian I love Russia. Fully support actions of Russian Army in protecting pro-Russian people in Ukraine.

    Don't like it? Restore the legitimate government of Yanukovich in Kiev. Arrest all the Nazis.. Arrest the criminals. Give the Russian language the status of official language of Ukraine. Put on trial the criminals who were rioting and killing Ukrainian policemen in Kiev.

    If West forces the illegitimate government in Kiev to do all those things, then Russia will withdraw from Crimea. Until then, they are there to stay and protect Russians.
     
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    So you believe that Ukraine belongs to Russia?

    Why don't the "Russians" get up and leave Ukraine and go live in Russia? You know were Russians belong?
     
  24. SyrianGirl1982

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    They were born in that land.

    That is like saying all White Americans and Australians should pack up and go to Europe. All Africans should go back to Africa.

    Russians have lived in Crimea and Eastern Ukraine for a 1000 years. Yes, a 1000 years. Those lands were only given to Ukraine in 20th century as a gift when both Russia and Ukraine were inside USSR.
     
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    The Nazi in Kiev is nuttier than a fruit cake. Does he realize that if Turkey stops the ship from entering the Black Sea it would start a war between Russia and Turkey?
     
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