Russian mercenary boss says Bakhmut practically surrounded -March 3rd

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  1. zoom_copter66

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    Yep....well see.

    And in the meantime Crimea is being fortified knowing that an attack is in the near future.

    https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1631741450068131852?s=20
     
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    Bakhmut is of no military significance whatsoever. Ukrainians have just used it to bleed and blunt the Russian offensive.
     
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    Why Russia and Ukraine are fighting over Bakhmut
    https://www.washingtonpost.com › world › 2023/03/03


    23 hours ago — Bakhmut was “not a particularly symbolically or strategically important city” originally, said Karolina Hird, Russia analyst at the ...

    ". . . “The two paths of advance that taking Bakhmut might open up for them aren’t really good options,” Hird said, calling them “highly attritional.”

    Even if Ukraine withdraws from Bakhmut, it has already succeeded in wearing down Russian forces and their Wagner colleagues. The White House recently estimated about 30,000 Wagner fighters have been injured or killed in the months-long battle.

    The staggering losses and resources spent could make it harder for Moscow to mount an effective defense in the south, where Ukraine is probably preparing to launch a spring counteroffensive, Hird said."
     
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    That's some sweet propaganda there fellas. I expect to hear this again and again with the next city that doesn't matter, all the way to Kyiv.
     
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    There won't be a next city because the Russian offensive will shortly "culminate." The culminating point marks the time when the attacking force can no longer continue its advance, because of supply problems, the opposing force, or the need for rest. Russians will run out of ammunition before long, and then be reduced to throwing rocks. Not very effective against Ukraine's new tanks in the spring offensive.
    [​IMG] USA Today
    Russia will be out of 'military tools' by spring, Ukraine's top military spy says
     
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    The third might be the Chechens / Islamist extremists .. but, agreed with the central point .. .. the Prisoners and Extremists are being used as Cannon Fodder .. Putin could be said to be feeding "undesirables" in to the meat grinder if one was woke ... :)

    Zelinski on the other hand is feeding teenage lads into the meat grinder .. starting to run low on bodies via attrition of the Azov Nazi's which I suppose we could also call "Undesirables" .. the Azov not the Teens .. to be clear.

    We are experiencing some of the highest casualty rates now that the war is down to essentially one front .. trench warfare .. expected life span of the average soldier in the trenches in hours rather than days .. war like never before .. terminator style

    Ukraine expected to run out of ammo by the end of summer .. running out of bodies too .. the 10-1 artillery advantage of Russia taking its toll.
     
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    The Russian offensive will shortly "culminate." The culminating point marks the time when the attacking force can no longer continue its advance, because of supply problems, the opposing force, or the need for rest. Russians will run out of ammunition before long, and then be reduced to throwing rocks. Not very effective against Ukraine's new tanks in the spring offensive.
    [​IMG] USA Today
    Russia will be out of 'military tools' by spring, Ukraine's top military spy says
     
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    Kyiv was tried once already Bill.....not happening.

    As you could see ...no one was greeting the liberators with flowers and champagne.

    80%+ of Mafialand military fully engaged....there isn't much more room for escalation.

    Mafiosi is doomed Bill....I think you even know it....but you're just loathe to admit it.
     
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    Ohhh...now Ukraine expected to run outta ammo by summer??? Weren't you claiming that late last fall that Ukies would freeze to death and run outta ammo?.....changing your narrative now are we?

    10-1 in artillery??.....that ratio is useless when millions of rounds pumped through it and barrels are warped....gifty.:)
     
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    Yeah....it's quite unfortunate that this city gets levelled by Putlerstan thugs....supposedly in "annexed territory"....never to be rebuilt, and it's Russian speaking residents have fled "West" to safer ground. So much for Russki Mir?

    Let's be honest....there's no "payoff" in being Russian supporters when something like this is the end result and FSB/GRU come knocking at your door. Many of those so called supporters have probably realized this by now.:)

    The LDPR is a prime example also....are there any males left....25-60 yrs old, that haven't been forcibly drafted or killed off yet....LOL.
     
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    Change what narrative .. the Ukies did freeze .. lucky was not a cold winter but still froze .. and 10-1 artillery is what the sources you were given stated .. not my claim. Never said run out of ammo last fall .. but would have been correct . had I said it .. as at some point will run out of ammo . just looking sooner rather than later according to the notable sources ..

    You need to keep up Zoomer .. do a little reading from time to time .. other than the Azov Times ... our poor Ukrainian Brothers are using up ammo far faster than can be produced. That is not my crystal ball mate --- that is the stated fact Jack :)
     
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    Hahahahahaha......

    "As at some point" will run out. Too funny gifty?.....looking for a way out?....floundering are we?

    Deripaska says Mafiosi will run outta cash by summer??

    Even though this Deripaska is a first rate SOB, con artist, and one of Putlerstans inner circle cronies....I'll sooner believe that ....than running outta ammo "at some point".....no so gifted one.


    Hahahaha.....:)
     
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    Zoomer .. your out of control again.. triggered by the news... wanting desperately to blame the messenger but, is not my fault freind. Our boys going through ammo faster than can be produced ... Those untrained teenage boys your cheering on into the trenches ..just feed for the meat grinder .

    Them boys don't have a chance being sent into the Russian ground and pound .. 10-1 artillery advantage.

    When are those tanks showing up btw .. and the F-16s .. our boys are getting slaughtered at ridiculously high rate .. a death sentence.
     
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    Should find yourself some better sources mate "USA Today" .. thats funny. Russia is preparing for a spring offensive -- did these morons over at USA today not get the memo ? Fully loaded for Bear is Vlad.. on the offensive taking more territory .. the Azov Nazi's on the run .. Vlad's ground and pound 10-1

    You were going to find out the rate of attrition on the Ukrainian side Jack .. What the propaganda clownshow USA have to say .. how many Ukrainians soldiers dead in the first two months of the year ? Your the big cheerleader into the meat grinder Jack .. you should know the efficiency of the machine your sending these boys into.

    Sup Jack .. those numbers a little hard to find ?
     
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    Ahhhhhhhm the German Leos 2A6 and those of its partners are already in the Ukraine, training of the crews will finish in a couple of weeks in Germany.
    By the way 2000 tanks that would be twice the amount Ukraine has ever had.
     
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    Last I heard the first of the Leo 2 tanks are already in Poland where Ukrainian tankers are training on them. It was 17 leo 2A6 and 40 Leo 2A4. Germany is negotiating to buy 240 Leo 2A4s from Switzerland.
     
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    I'm not surprised the ukes are running out of ammo, everytime BBC runs a "frontline fighting" clickbait video, all they show is some female BBC "reporter" in a helmet, sitting next to some ukie in a hole firing 1000 rounds a minute into an empty field.
     
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    Hey leave jack alone, I'm on his side now, NATO should keep sending more weapons cuz......erm....

    IM NOT A SALESMAN FOR THE USA DEFENSE INDUSTRY OK
     
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    Is that why Xi Jinping is dropping by Dwarfstan in the not so distant future?

    I suspect that Xi will bring along a list of demands for China's "help".....one of those demands is that Mafiosi puts up Siberia/Far East as collateral.
     
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    :applause::applause::applause:

    Head cheerleader --- urging those green Ukrainian teenage boys into the meat grinder .. once in those trenches life expectancy measured in hours .. not days.
     
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    Now 2000 tanks might make a difference in this battle .. unfortunately Germany only sending 16 .. .. and these need to get there soon .. Spring offensive just around the corner
     
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    They are already in the Ukraine.
    1 Battalion 2A6, with 12 2A5 from Sweden included, 1 Battalion of 2A4 from Poland and its partners half a Battalion Challenger 2 from the UK, over 100 Infantry fighting vehicles, Bradley, Marder and AMX nad so on. All Ukraine has to throw in is 1 1/2 battalion of tanks and you have a full Armored division. That is some serious fighting power. The Ukraine had close to a armored division in its Kharkiv offense. You remember what they accomplished with T72 and soviet IFV?

    As usual your information is not cutting it, Germany has send 18 2A6 to the Ukraine, plus 3 Bergepanzer. Sweden is at present delivering its 12 2A5 and the 2A6 from Portugal are on the way, including the 2A6 from Norway, you have a tank heavy battalion of 2A6 and 2A5.
    A battalion is 31 tanks. Since the Ukraine soldiers 2A6 and 2A5 are trained in Germany, with the Marder crews and Ukraine troops, Panzergrenadiere, they already get trained together in combined operations. Most of those guy have already combat experience, the tankers were in the Bakhmut area, well seasoned soldiers..
    I think you have never been in the military, but the amount of firepower a armored division present is just overwhelming, massive. Considering the equipment of those NATO tanks and IFV, throw in the NATO 155mm, the MARS and HIMARS, those are the most powerful units the war has seen. They will be a handful for the Russian troops.
     
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    At least 1 of those "most powerful units" 2A6 Leopards has already been grabbed intact by Russia. Seems those badass tanks can't retreat so well on dirt (mud) farm roads.
     
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    Yeah...I heard that too :laughing:...that Mafiosi "grabbed" not one....but several that are stuck somewhere in Donbas....there was even a pic of one destroyed....I think the pic was taken back in Iraq in 2003 sometime?....LOL.
     
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