S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn

You may think that is the case, but you are assuming way too much. If you don't know that, it's ignorance; if you know better... I'd say you're just seeking to vilify homosexual people in general. (Hmmm....)

 

actualy considering its well know Harvey Milk liked to bang them real young boys yet they want to create a Harvey Milk day in Cali and make him a hero. there are much better homsexual people in Cali I would support having a special day, but not Harvey "man/boy love" Milk.

 

Early to mid 20's is an odd age range for calling someone a "real young boy". That said, there were likely better choices, but I wouldn't really know... I don't tend to follow gay politics and notable gay figures much... I hadn't even heard of Harvey Milk until the movie came out, and only watched the movie recently. I imagine the fact that he was shot kinda gave him a one-up on his competition for recognition. I don't really care if he's not recognized, or anyone else for that matter.

 

I know that some people will say anything and promote any LIE, in an attempt to vilify homosexual people in general. The above fits that category I just described.

 

Revealing how you interpret any criticism of an individual homosexual to be a criticism of all homosexuals. I suspect thats how they ended up dedicating a week to honor Harvey Milk every year.

 

they were known to be under 18, lets not play dumb here.

 

and i know some people are just idiots who ASSume stupid (*)(*)(*)(*) just because they dont like what another person says.

just to let you know im a gay rights advocate and im all about gay marriage. but sorry if i hate Harvey Milk for being a sexual predator that he was and taking advantage of young boys.

once again there are better homosexuals to dedicate a day too and teach about, but not some sick minded (*)(*)(*)(*) like Milk to make a hero.

now do yourself a (*)(*)(*)(*)ed favor, stop ASSuming because it makes ya look dumb.

 

No doubt when they consdered establishing a Harvey Milk day, similiar sentiments were probably expressed, and those doing so were labeled bigots and homophobes, shamed into submission.

 

We're they? The vast majority I've read about we're over 20, with jack just shy of 17 being the exception, not the standard. Early to mid 20's appeared to be his typical preference, same as most heterosexual men. Where people get off equating that to sleeping with 10 year old boys, I don't know.

 

Yeah the ones you read about. And I never said he had relations with 10 year old boys and I don't believe anyone else said so either so I dont know what you are talkin about. Milk was fond of under age boys, teens with drug or alcohol problems. He was a predator, like it or not and my opinion will stand that there are much more respectable gay men and women to dedicate a day or week too.

 

Exactly, you must agree 110% or you are a bigot.

 

Well known like it is well known that the Yeti wanders around the Himilaya's snatching children?

Wait- that is well known.

but everything you posted is just biased speculation on your part.

 

So name some names.

show some evidence.

There is not a single person under 18 who claimed he had sex with Milk as a minor.

 

Well just provide something other than your claim to back it up.

In "Mayor of Castro Street", from interviews gathered after Milks death, and 20 years after the fact, that someone called McKinley and Milk 'lovers' when McKinley was 16 years old. We can speculate that they had sex.

Milk and McKinley lived together for 5 or 6 years.

Other than that every other boyfriend that I have read about in the book was at least 20 years old.

There is not one reference to Milk being fond of under age boys or teens with drug or alcohol problems.

There is not any evidence that Milk was a predator- he was attracted to young men and most of them were older than the Playmates in Playboy, that I grew up gawking at.

 

That claim has been made many times on this site. As has the claim that pedophilia comes strictly from homosexuality and that there can never be a heterosexual pedophile.

 

I don't believe the BS you're putting out here. The hatred of Milk that you and others express here, is just plain overboard. You can try to sell it as justifiable and legit, but I'm not buying it. Sorry.

 

As I'm certain, too many on this site love to focus upon whatever negatives they would associate with "homosexuality" or homosexual people, and essentially use it as a catalyst to vilify ALL homosexuality or homosexual people.

They are so transparent, but think themselves to be clever in doing what they do.

 

And what do undocumented, unreported, purely speculative accounts have to do with anything?

Of course you didn't, you used the ambiguous "young boy" which anyone reading and unfamiliar with it would assume to be in the realm of 10 years of age. People smearing Harvey commonly use ambiguous descriptions that, although ambiguous enough to be correct, seem designed to bring to mind something far worse. It's a three step process:

Step 1: Identify some fact or quote, like "harvey was romantically involved with 16 year old Jack"
Step 2: Generalize and apply ambiguous language that makes it appear frequent, and far worse: "The child predator Harvey milk habitually molested young boys"
Step 3: .... Profit. You've successfully painted an image easily misunderstood. You can't be called out on it because it's ambiguous, so you can just say "I was referring to Jack as a 'young boy'", but the damage is done.

You paraphrased a quote from his biography, "Milk was fond of under age boys, teens with drug or alcohol problems". The quote in question that Harvey "always had a penchant for young waifs with substance abuse issues." was referring to a 25 year old man, not underage boys and teens. This is part of the problem of that ambiguous language I was talking about above.

More so indifferent, you're probably right.

 

waaa cry about it, i honestly dont give a (*)(*)(*)(*) what any brain dead liberal thinks of me. i know myself and know what i believe in and im down with a respectable gay or lesbian woman to have a day or week dedicated too.

just because i dont agree 100% of what you do doesnt mean im just playing mind games or hate gays. once again for all to read and you can quote me a million times over, im all about gay marriage and the advancement of gay rights as their lives in general do not effect mine in any ways. but ask me again if i think Harvey Milk,a person who butt sexxed a 16 year old boy then when he was tired of him told him to "not make a mess" when the guy decided to kill himself.........as a person im sorry, (*)(*)(*)(*) Milk for his actions and disgusting ways.

take it as you want, if you are gonna give a day or week to someone, make it someone respectable.

 

alot honestly. they guy did it once that we know of, im not gonna doubt he has been a man/boy lover many times before.

nope, i meant underage teen boys, not 10 year olds so get off it. dont know how many times i gotta explain that but im guessing this wont be the last.

everyone knows he was, stop playing stupid.

well he did did he not???

na, Harvey Milk did that himself for banging a 16 year old with a drug addiction, then tossing him like he was nothing when Harvey himself got all famous. good for Harvey, hope Jack didnt make too much of a mess when killing himself.

the kid was 16 when he first started sexxing him up, as well as another 19 year old when he was 33. i dont know what biography you are reading but i can give you quotes from a gay reporter who did a bio on Milk. but i guess you wont accept that either.

i know im right, we dont need someone to honor that lied about military service as well as preying on twinks. but hey, like i told another, take my opinion however you want it because its not changing.

 

The ambiguous language implies it, whether or not you meant it.

Like I said, I called it a fact not a speculation.

Exactly my point, the ambiguous claim can be substantiated, but making it ambiguous leaves it open to interpretation... particularly with words like "young boy".

Unless you've read a different account, Jack left Harvey and moved back to New York, I'm not sure where the "tossing him like was nothing" came from.

And what's wrong with a 19 year old, that's the average age of most porn models? The 16 year old is what's in question, itself not even an uncommon marrying age at the time, and also represents the singular example of a "underage teenager". You generalized this in your quote, "Milk was fond of under age boys, teens with drug or alcohol problems", suggesting a "fondness" for "underage boys (plural), substantiated by a quote that was actually referring to a 25 year old man

 

Whatever man... I just think no one should place significant value in what you're expressing. Many will know 'intuitively' that it is BS.

 

Okay- are you ignorant or lying?

First lie: Nowhere does it say that McKinley was a drug addict or even using a drugs when he was 16. Sihouette has made this up.

Milk didn't 'drop' McKinley when he became famous- McKinley was arguably better known than Milk at the time- McKinley was a successful stage manager for the San Francisco production of "Hair". McKinley and Milk were together for 5 years before McKinley moved to New York.

He committed suicide a year after Milk's death, he was deeply distraught over Milk's assasination- and he did make a mess- he jumped.

 

Oh please do give us those quotes. I have the "Mayor of Castro Street" here in front of me- just finished reading it.

Show me where Shilts ever claims specifically that Milk and Mckinley were having sex? Or does he suggest it?

And a legal 19 year old? I don't remember him. I do know of his 25 year old lover, his 28 year old lover, and his 22 year old lover.

Sure give me quotes that show that Milk was 'preying on twinks'- go for it. I have the book right here, lets compare quotes.

 

Exactly- what is the average age of a model in playboy? 19? 20?

The fact remains that Geddon wants to 'convict' Milk based upon his interpretation of a third party statement made over 20 years after the fact, when neither of the parties involved ever made such a claim.