Samson: What Mark Cuban is saying by not wanting to play the national anthem before games

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  1. Montoya

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    Hahaha imagine this coming from a trumpist.
     
  2. Moolk

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    Imagine your complete inability to refute anything said.

    Not shocking tbh.
     
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  3. Montoya

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    Its not worth "refuting" your debunked trumpisms.
     
  4. Moolk

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    Nothing I have said has been debunked simply because you dont like it.

    But not shocking to see a dem claim something is debunked simply because they disagree lmao.
     
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    Viewed dispassionately, it's easy to see that it was probably nothing more than a business decision on Mark Cuban's part.

    After all, 74.2% of the NBA are Black, and as we have already seen for several years, the National Anthem of the United States is universally disliked and disrespected by many Blacks throughout professional sports in this country. Link: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1167867/nba-players-ethnicity/

    Cuban's reasoning was probably, "Give 'em what they like, and don't give 'em what they DON'T like...." It was just an exercise in catering to who and what your 'audience' actually is....

    [​IMG]. "I'm selling basketball, not 'national pride'...."
     
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    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah ...

    I will just never accept that the anthem is the right time for a protest.
     
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    Agree completely!

    And I've always wondered if all these seemingly butt-hurt Black athlete multi-millionaires really think that they, and all the rest of the American Black population, would be better off today if explorers and adventurers from the Middle East, India, and Africa had just left them alone, so long ago, to enjoy their lives in the near-Stone Age, in their blissful, pastoral jungles and savannahs of Sub-Saharan Africa....

    [​IMG]. "You must be out yo' mind, white boy...!" :roflol:
     
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    Non-issue for me. I don’t care if they play the anthem at all for any sport.
     
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    I've always maintained that the luckiest day in their lives was the day their ancestors were sold into slavery. (Probably not for the ancestors themselves, though.) But if that never happened, Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson etc. probably would have died in infancy or been killed by a neighboring tribe.
     
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    That right there is incitement to insurrection.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    The rest of the population cannot distinguish between country and government.
     
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    I never understood why they continue to play the national anthem prior to sporting events anyway. It was first done in 1918 as a show of support for our troops in France during WWI, then basically dropped until WWII except for special occasions. It was also played during the 7th inning stretch during WWI. Outside of the Olympics, I don't see any reason for playing it before sporting events. It doesn't mean anything to most folks anyway. Only a time to get some hot dogs and beer before the game. Some history.

    After America's entrance into World War I, Major League Baseball games often featured patriotic rituals, such as players marching in formation during pregame military drills and bands playing patriotic songs. During the seventh-inning stretch of Game One of the 1918 World Series, the band erupted into "The Star-Spangled Banner." The Cubs and Red Sox players faced the centerfield flag pole and stood at attention. The crowd, already on their feet, began to sing along and applauded at the end of the song.

    Given the positive reaction, the band played the song during the next two games, and when the Series moved to Boston, the Red Sox owner brought in a band and had the song played before the start of each remaining contest. After the war (and after the song was made the national anthem in 1931), the song continued to be played at baseball games, but only on special occasions like opening day, national holidays, and World Series games.

    During World War II, baseball games again became venues for large-scale displays of patriotism, and technological advances in public address systems allowed songs to be played without a band. "The Star-Spangled Banner" was played before games throughout the course of the war, and by the time the war was over, the pregame singing of the national anthem had become cemented as a baseball ritual, after which it spread to other sports.

    https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/22150/why-do-we-sing-national-anthem-sporting-events

    I think we can easily drop playing it today as the reasons aren't there anymore.
     
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    I don't believe that.
     
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    Of the people he talked to in his community did any of them want the anthem to continue to be played?
     
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    It's an American tradition.
     
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    And we can drop MLK day and Kwanzaa while we're at it because one guy isn't here any more and the other isn't inclusive.
     
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    Is it a tradition to stand for the anthem at home? And at least we chant USA, what country does the left chant?
     
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    Wow. An Opinion thread posted in the Wrong Section.

    This is an OPINION Thread.

    With a Mis-stated (Editorialized) Thread Title.

    Here is the Actual Title of the Linked Article:

    Samson: What Mark Cuban is saying by not wanting to play the national anthem before games

    ^Thus, it is (OBVIOUSLY) an OPINION Thread, since it is clear that someone named "Samson" gave that Opinion.

    Also, why would anybidy use the excuse that they "edited the title for brevity", when it is clear that the title was edited just to editorialize it's meaning (and then it is incorrectly posted as an Opinion thread in Current Events).

    For the record there was NO Need to "edit the title for brevity" (unless one clearly wanted to push a false narrative, based on an Opinion Article).

    I just went to the "Post New Thread" Template and put in the Thread Title of this Opinion Article and it FIT.
    (No Title "Editing" was required).

    As far as the OP and Samson's OPINION...

    Let's see...

    1) It is obviously an Opinion Article:

    During Thursday's installment of "Nothing Personal with David Samson," David Samson weighed in on the situation and broke down what exactly Cuban is trying to say by not wanting to play the national anthem prior to NBA games.

    2) The NBA Stepped In (and has Mandated the Playing of the Anthem):

    Now though the Mavericks will be mandated to play the anthem before all of its games.

    ^Problem solved.

    Thus, it is Dead Issue and a Moot Point.
    (And, the OPINION of a Podcast Guy (of Mark Cuban) is Irrelevant).
     
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    They will still be working on getting rid of it:
     
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    I thought when I read this it was to keep people from kneeling... if the fans want it play it, seems to be tradition, so I would guess most do
     
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    National Anthems should only be played at international events such as the Olympic Games. Playing it at national games is political propaganda and brain-wash, pure and simple. Insisting you stand and put your hand over your heart is the sort of thing the Nazi would do. It is pure Fascism. :angered:
     
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  22. Montoya

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    We don't "chant" anything because we aren't insecure and in need of idol worship. Here's a hint, you can be a patriot and not feel the need to scream it and flaunt everywhere.
     
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    Of course you don't, and I cannot prove it because I've not interviewed most americans.

    But judging from posts here at PF, maybe it would be more accurate to say that most posters here cannot discern between country and government. The reason is that they have been conditioned to blur the line.

    In general terms you don't believe anything that is not approved by our illustrious leaders. Likely you believe that Oswald killed JFK and that James Earl Ray killed King.
     
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    Government is part of country, not vice versa. Country is what matters. Government is a necessity that we have overdone over the past century. This is not blurred in my mind or in the mind of anyone i know. That is how I see it.

    Whenever government says something to defend itself I generally view what it says as lies. Sometimes the prove to be true and sometimes they don't. But I never accept what government says as true if it deals with something poptentially embarrassing.

    We have a country of great people, a great private sector and a mostly incompetent and corrupt government. That is on government, not country. I disagree with your premise.
     
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    China? Who knew George Floyd was Chinese?
     

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