Saving Democracy is not the most important thing on the ballot in the midterms....

Everything he listed there was Federal oppression Federal oppression is important to these people. When they say taxes it's the ability to extort more out of you.

When they say guns it's the ability to forbid you to have them. When he says women's rights that's the ability for the federal government to declare to the states something that was given to the states by the Constitution. When they say climate change they're not talking about environmentalism they're talking about government authority to control what cars you buy even though that doesn't really have much of an effect at all on climate. When they say inflation that's the ability of the government to steal from your savings by making the money you have in it worth less. When they say civil liberties and personal liberties it's a bit of a joke because all of this is about curtailing civil and personal liberties.

So in a way he's right what's on the ballot is authoritarianism or Liberty. He just wants you to vote for authoritarianism.

 

If the people vote for Republican Congress Republican Congress is what democracy dictates.

I'm just going to go ahead and think when you say democracy it just means leftist fascist rule.

 

And you can be assured that is true while Democrats are in charge. Not so much when Republicans are.

 

How can I be assured that's true? If you can assure the Democratic process is on the level why haven't you yet?

I just think you're upset because he complete incompetent administration has been elected and The mask has fallen off. Republican voters may be setting aside the purity hierarchy so that they can formulate an effective battle plan and that has you scared.

That's what Trump did was in it that's why people are so angry about him because he emboldened Republicans. And people like you aren't able to push them around anymore.

I hope I get to taste your tears in a couple weeks.

 

Oh, but that ass-kicking WILL come from democracy because the judges and Congress are all part of our democracy whether the phony champions of democracy on the Left like it or not.

And, of course, the phony champions of democracy on the Left don't like it because they think that democracy means getting their own way. In their infinite arrogance they think they're entitled to power, but they're not. In a democracy you have to earn it, and on Tuesday the phony champions of democracy are going to find out that they haven't earned it.

 

1 very very very important question, what does DEMOCRAT MEAN TO YOU?

because democrats and their politicians, tend to have way different definitions of things now adays, then the actual real true definition of a lot of words out there. lmao!!!!!!!!
you people, tend to use fake, politically woke correct terms, and intentionally tend to bend the true definition of words, so people can conform to your ways.

 

You're asking me? YOU said it! All I did was agree.

 

"Voting for the other person on the ballot is a loss of democracy"

Leftists are living caricatures of NPC's.

 

You seem to have a problem with the democracy when it gets in the way of your authoritarianism.

Why do you pretend to support democracy?

 

That's the only two things leftists are good at: lying and being a victim.

 

I am more than happy with any ass-kicking from Democracy so long as there IS Democracy. It is not assured that there will be the next time Republicans are in charge, though. And I'm not the one saying it. Over two thirds of Americans say it, according to polls.

 

"And by extremist partisan" you of course mean people who make decisions based on the Constitution.

 

A person who favors the Democratic Party. Not complicated... Not an important question either.

 

With all those election deniers, and now Trump is embracing the term, as if it were a badge of honor, I mean, the cancer is metastasizing.

Trump has damaged this country on a scale never before seen in history, and almost half the nation are blinded by him so much, they actually believe he is doing us good. They just look at stats, they don't see the actual damage, which is beyond mere stats. I mean, stats can be good in a dictatorship, but it's still a dictatorship. Hell, even in China, compared to 30 years ago, their average lives have improved in terms of economics and now they can travel more, but little else. And to add insult to injury, they are accusing democrats of being 'authoritarians' and their evidence? 'masks'. Yeah, a gov's attempt to preserve the health of the nation, they think, equals 'authoritarianism', it's like an Orwellian nightmare, black is white, up is down, bad is good. The Trumpian gaslight machine has taken over the GOP.

But, if enough of the 18-34 year olds get out and vote, there might be hope.

 

Saving "democracy" would involve getting rid of both parties otherwise the crap will continue

 

You appear to be having a hard time accepting "I agree with you" for an answer, don't you? As if you suddenly realized that your own statement wasn't as favorable to party dogma as you first thought.

Which is pretty hilarious....

 

And what is your evidence for said 'authoritarianism'? Masks, lockdowns?That's it. Yeah, a gov's attempt to preserve the health of the nation, you think, equals 'authoritarianism', it's like an Orwellian nightmare, black is white, up is down, bad is good. The Trumpian gaslight machine has taken over the GOP.

If you honestly believed in democracy you couldn't support Donald Trump, who is the master of deceit.

That's rich considering you guys elected Trump, the anti-democratic fake leader.

(from my other OP)

Donald Trump isn't a real leader. He is a fake leader. He is small, petty, man.

A number of credible persons have declared he is a malignant narcissist, and I think that is quite evident. I think he is toxic schmucktangle of awful on a level we've never seen in a president.

He is a fake leader because Donald Trump doesn't believe in democracy. Note that, for the nitpickers in the peanut gallery, I'm using the term 'democracy' in the broadest sense of the term, a nation of laws, of rights, freedoms, where each person over 18 has the right to vote.

No, based on my observations of Trump, it's clear Trump doesn't like democracy.

If you do not believe in democracy, you are a Fascist. There is no middle ground, it's one or the other.

If you believe in democracy, you do not admonish your Attorney General for not prosecuting whom you want prosecuted.

If you believe in democracy, you not trust the word of dictators over your own national security and intelligence staff

If you believe in democracy, you would never consider declaring martial law in order to confiscate voting machines without evidence

If you believe in democracy, you do not conceive of a scheme of fake electors in order to overturn an election you clearly lost.

If you believe in democracy, you would not try to put into action a scheme to delay the Joint Session of congress with the specific objective of depriving your opposition of 270 electors that were earned by your opposition with the objective of forcing the vote for president by the house, nor, if that scheme doesn't work, would you attempt to delay the Joint Session's final certification past the deadline so as to throw the vote to the house. (The Eastman Memo).

If you believe in democracy, you do not declare that the press is the enemy of the people, let alone repeat it, let alone make blanket claims that their news is 'fake', over and over and over again so as to poison some 74,000,000 people to turn against the press.

If you believe in democracy, you would not declare, before any ballot is ever cast, that your opponents can win only if they rigged the election, and repeat that lie, without evidence, such that your base, some 74,000,000 people, their confidence in democracy and elections has been poisoned.

If you believe in democracy, not only do you not declare that the opposition tampered with voting machines without concrete evidence, not declare that the opposition schemed to let dead people and illegals vote sufficient to steal the election, you do not do it at rallies, you do not do it so as to cause a juggernaut of rage so great you would incite a mob to attack the capitol.

If you believe in democracy, you'd care enough about the health of your citizens that you wouldn't instruct the secret service to dismantle the metal detectors with the knowledge that some people are armed and trying to get passed them at rallies.

If you believe in democracy, once you have won and are in office, you do not continue to hold rallies every week after you have won just to hear the praise from the audience to massage your frail ego.

If you believe in democracy, you'd never call up state secretaries of state, governors, and election officials in an attempt to get them to 'find you enough votes' to overturn the election, to get them to accept your fake electors instead of the electors your opposition won

If you believe in democracy, you believe in good government.

If you believe in good government, you do not staff your cabinet with leaders who previously ran organizations who opposed the departments they are appointed to lead.

If you believe in good government, you do not grossly understaff your state department.

If you believe in good government, you believe in effective leadership.

If you believe in effective leadership, you do not disparage human beings in an attempt to dehumanize them.

If you believe in democracy, you believe in the rule of law.

If you believe in the rule of law, you don't steal national defense information documents and not return them.

If you believe in the rule of law, you'd know that there is no legal basis for alternate electors, especially if no governor signed for them, especially after you lost over 60 court cases and it's clear your claims of fraud simply are not true.

If you believe in the rule of law, you wouldn't instruct your staff, before the fact, to not appear, en masse, for any subpoena.

If you believe in the rule of law, you do not shake down foreign leaders for private gain.

If you believe in the rule of law, you would not obstruct any investigation to your activities, because you would know that your innocence would be forthcoming.

If you believe in the rule of law, and human decency, you do not con thousands out of millions for a fake university scam.

If you believe in the rule of law, you do not create a charity on paper and use it as a slush fund.

If you believe in the rule of law, you would not vote for a man who has 25 women accusing him of sexual misconduct nor would you be such a person.

If you believe in the rule of law, you wouldn't make your primary source of funds a superpak for your legal defenses.

If you believed in the rule of law, it is not likely you would have a dozen lawsuits and criminal investigations against you.

If you believed in the rule of law, you would not be a vexatious litigator.

If you believe in democracy, you would concede soon enough, once it becomes clear you lost.

If you believe in democracy, you do not sue to over turn the election 60 times.

If you were a leader, you would have the wisdom to know and trust good advisors, and you'd know who are incompetent

If you were a leader, you would know what constitutes evidence, and would not make allegations without evidence, and if you had to allege, you'd clearly state that it was 'alleged' and not proven.

If you were a leader, you would not engage in egregious innuendo, petty squabbles with unimportant people, call people names.

If you were a leader, you'd believe in statesmanship, you'd have gravitas, and a man with gravitas would never be obsequious to murderous dictators.

If you were a leader, you would not demagogue your electorate and engage egregious hyperbole and blatant lies on a scale hitherto unseen by any president in history.

If you were a leader, if you were a man of gravitas, you would never sue someone only for the reason that person called you a millionaire, instead of a billionaire.

If you were a leader, you would know what it means to not be a fool, and you know that you would never sue a comic for calling you the lovechild of a woman and an orangutan.

If you were a leader, you could not possibly be a man like Donald Trump.

If you honestly believed in democracy, you sure as hell couldn't vote for him

 

Still waiting for your self proclaimed independent thinking to explain the following

Democrats who tried to get electors to falsify their votes PUBLICLY by running actual adds in the media in 2016 to overturn the results of an election
Democrats who tried to vote out the electors in joint session in 2016 to overturn the results of the election
Democrats who falsified documents to federal judges to get illegal FISA warrants to overturn the results of an election
Democrats who hosted a fake Russian conspiracy for 3 years to overturn the results of an election
Democrat who attacked the SCOTUS to stop Kavanaugh from being confirmed
Democrats who start the impeachment process the day of inauguration to overturn the results of an election

 

hmm. thought I put Democracy. What does democracy mean to you?

 

And authoritarianism they like that too only when they are in charge though.

 

You agree you have a problem with democracy? Well that's the thing one statement may be your favorable to one party's dogma and the next won't be. I'm not a party simp.

 

exactly it is not the government's job nor the responsibility to do lockdowns or mandate masks or try to force fake vaccines on people. They have no business telling me what I have to do to preserve my health. They are not health experts they do not have health experts they can consult they are imbeciles and incompetent in every way in this field.

They need to **** the hell off. That's what anti authoritarianism looks like. I don't need them to care it's not their place.


As for the rest of your post I read two lines of trump screeching and I'm not interested

 

It is what it is. Each individual has their own reason or reasons for voting the way they do. I personally think voting for the letter behind a candidate’s name is absurd. That means on average you’ll be voting for the best candidate half the time and the worst candidate the other half.


Those who vote for one party and then the other basically do so in hopes of getting their voices heard. But as I stated before, both major parties only govern for their base and only listen to their base. Since the base vote is approximately 30% for each party, that is a small minority of all of America. But it is what it is and we’ll continue to vote in one party and then the other well into the future until one or the other party opens their ears to listen to those not of their base. Not necessarily the other party, but to swing voters who decide these elections.

 

Remember what Benny said?

“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”
- Benjamin Franklin​

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-we-are-not-a-democracy-myth-to-rest.605049/