Saving Democracy is not the most important thing on the ballot in the midterms....

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  1. Sandy Shanks

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    Sandy Shanks said:
    Because the Biden economy is roaring -- I have shown that in my various reports on the economy -- the Republicans are forced to speculate, to speak of economic matters in the future. Then there is their bitching about inflation, which hardly matters since they are unable to blame Biden for inflation and unable to offer solutions to the problem.

    The truth is, as I have pointed out, inflation is not a problem. Inflation is a by-product of prosperity. Robust spending=inflation. Relieving inflation is caused by less spending. Less spending=recession.

    There is a serious problem with the booming Biden economy. Millions of good jobs go unfilled.

    ABC reports, "U.S. job openings rose unexpectedly in September, suggesting that the American labor market is not cooling as fast as the inflation fighters at the Federal Reserve hoped.

    "Employers posted 10.7 million job vacancies in September, up from 10.3 million in August, the Labor Department said Tuesday. Economists had expected the number of job openings to drop below 10 million for the first time since June 2021.

    "For the past two years, as the economy rebounded from 2020's COVID-19 recession, employers have complained they can't find enough workers. With so many jobs available, workers can afford to resign and seek employment that pays more or offers better perks or flexibility. So companies have been forced to raise wages to attract and keep staff. Higher pay has contributed to inflation that has hit 40-year highs in 2022.

    And Americans keep bitching about the economy, and they think the recession-prone Republican Party is the answer.

    During the Reagan-to-Trump timeline, the Republican presidencies had four recessions start in their terms: one each under Reagan and George H. W. Bush, and two under George W. Bush. By contrast, Democrats Bill Clinton and Barack Obama had zero. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...versee-recessions-dems-recoveries/5235957002/

    The citizens of every nation on the planet would kill for an economy like the robust Biden economy. What are Americans doing? Crying about the high price of gas. It's enough to make a grown man weep.

    All this is important, but Republicans refuse to learn the truth about the American economy. Why? They don't know much about our economy, and they don't want to know. Their hero is Trump, and they don't want to know anything different. For the rural Republican base, mindlessly bitching about inflation is all the economics they need.
     
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  2. Golem

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    Is that what you were saying? That you have a problem with democracy? In that case I withdraw my agreement with you.
     
  3. Polydectes

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    did you read what you responded to? If you want to know what I'm saying use this organs in the front of your head and read.

    I don't use dog whistles or cryptic speech or anything like that.

    To either you can't read or you're dishonest.

    Incompetence or laziness are equally your problem.
     
  4. crank

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    Couldn't agree more.

    That's why it's SO important that leadership of a nation swings back and forth between Left and Right, and that both sides have equal airtime, respect, and opportunity to lead.
     
  5. Golem

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    I completely agree with you. But even that is not as absurd as voting to express "dissatisfaction" for an administration instead of voting for who you believe is more likely to fix things or, as I said, even for who you believe is less likely to make matters worse.
     
  6. Bullseye

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    We have to agree on what the hell "Democracy" means, first. There's a huge gap between left and right on that issue.
     
  7. Bullseye

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    Dude, it's already gone, or at least on life support. Government is expanding at a distressing right - pushing its way into aspects of our lives never conceived by the founding fathers. Every year our various legislative bodies produce thousands of new laws. How many ever get repealed?
     
  8. Bullseye

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    As much as they deny it, democrats are NOT for democracy. Classic democracy may have a small ineffectual faction within the larger authoritarian socialist/fascist cohort. No real democrat government would consider creating a "disinformation/misinformation" agency, for instance. Here in California the Democrats are working hard to destroy independent contractor form of employment - how is that democracy?
    Doubling the size of the IRS fits into "democracy", exactly how?
     
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  10. Steve N

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    Read the blue sentence in my signature and tell me who you think it might apply to.
     
  11. Bullseye

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    They do but the refer to it as "Das Republik"
     
  12. Bullseye

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    The Dems ultimate objective.
     
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    Obstruct? The left's platform, when they're not spending money to buy votes, is either telling us what me must do, or telling us what we can't do. There's very little of that with republicans.
     
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    Perhaps if the democrats govern for more Americans than just their base, they wouldn’t be worried about losing the House. The problem is they ignored inflation, rising prices for over a year which has been the most important issue for this year’s midterms. Many believe the threat to democracy is nothing more than Democratic Party hyperbolic propaganda to scare people into voting for their candidates which they think hasn’t done the job they were elected to do.
     
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    Or, option 3, you can't write. That may have been what was in your mind, but it's not what you wrote.

    So Option 3 wins!!!
     
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    That is the WORST way to decide a vote.

    I was preparing a thread about the reasons people use to decide their vote. I ordered them from smartest to dumbest. The dumbest I could think of was "to express dissatisfaction with the current administration". Which means you vote to "punish" an administration and not for who might SOLVE the problems. You managed to come up with one that is even WORSE.
     
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    That’s just it. People who are dissatisfied think by voting out the party in power, replacing them with the party out of power will help fix things. The ones in power haven’t, so why stay with them? Give someone else a chance. It usually doesn’t work that way, but there is always hope making a change will help. There’s a long history of both parties campaigning on the theme when they’re out of power, “Time for a change.”


    If you’re not happy with the way the your being governed, why would you vote to stick with those who you think aren’t any good at governing or governing wrong?
     
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    We don't need to make up definitions. Our forefathers did that for us. What they created IS "Democracy".
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-we-are-not-a-democracy-myth-to-rest.605049/
    Don't be confused by the fact that they didn't call it that at first. They did very soon after.
     
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    No it's that you refuse to or lack competence to read.
    I reread the post you were referring to. You are incorrect.
     
  20. Bullseye

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    How often did they actually use the word "democracy"? Which documents is it mentioned in? Is it discussed favorably in the Federalist Papers? I don't fine your house of cards construction in the OP.
     
  21. Bullseye

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    No, they didn't. You just played linguistic mumbo-jumbo to obscure tacts. Golem-ese linguistics don't equate to facts.
     
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    Clearly, you cannot be taken seriously.

    A mandate might be coercive but it's justified in the face of a national threat to the health of a nation, but it's not force, you always are given a choice. You might not like the choice, but it's a choice, nevertheless, and by that fact, it's not 'force'. It only becomes force when you are not left with a choice, or face fines or incarceration.

    the NIH and the CDC are experts, who advise the president.
     
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    why because I value Liberty over a government that acts like a mommy?

    If you can't take people who disagree with you seriously you have no business posting here.
    no Amanda was a power grab they still Liberty from people put them out of work destroyed their schooling for nothing. It didn't do anything but damage our economy and our social cohesiveness.

    [QUOTE>
    but it's not force, you always are given a choice. You might not like the choice, but it's a choice, nevertheless, and by that fact, it's not 'force'.[/QUOTE] that's exactly how every dictatorship works.
    That's not a choice.
    disagree these are the most incompetent morons that ever existed and they did more damage to our country than world war II.

    We can't disagree more. You seem to be okay with dictatorship. There can be no common ground between us. So I don't think there's any point in talking to each other about this anymore.

    If you want to tell me there's no reasoning with me good I don't want to reason with you. What you want simply cannot be allowed to happen in this country if you want to live that way move to Venezuela or North Korea they give you the choice of imprisonment or do what they tell you you can already have that you don't have to shed blood here to try and make it happen.
     
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    Saving the country and eliminating $5 gallons of gas and $5 dozens of eggs actually the most important thing.

    I mean what the hell happened? Did the chickens actually go on strike and we reach peak oil?
     
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    Equity is not democratic. Hiring or gaining entry or refusal of entry based on how you identify is not democratic.
     

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