Scant Evidence That Clinton Had Malicious Intent

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  1. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Conservatives jumping the gun again... apparently no one from the FBI has asked Hillary for an interview, even though she's more than willing to do so.

    "No one has reached out to me yet," she said on CBS' "Face the Nation."

    Still, she said the position she'd expressed last year remains true: "I'm more than ready to talk to anybody, anytime."
     
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    Wait until the DOJ announces no charges will be filed...............These poor folks are going to need medical health intervention and psychotropic medication and all of us will need ear plugs
     
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    The NARA regulations dictate how records should be created and maintained. They stress that materials must be maintained "by the agency," that they should be "readily found" and that the records must "make possible a proper scrutiny by the Congress."

    Her records weren't maintained by the agency, they were maintained by Bryan Pagliano who was paid by the Clinton foundation.

    Clinton had personally paid Pagliano to maintain her home-made server

    Section 1924 of Title 18 has to do with deletion and retention of classified documents. "Knowingly" removing or housing classified information at an "unauthorized location" is subject to a fine or a year in prison.

    She knowingly housed classified information at an "unauthorized location" .
     
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    So her defenders are saying that she's guilty of the offense but not chargeable due to lack of intent.
    It still makes her a dumbass. A dangerous dumbass.
     

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    I must admit that it has been a long time since I saw someone win the Godwin Award with just the 2nd reply on a thread but there is something about Clintons and your President that brings out The Crazy.
     
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    Intent is irrelevant in this investigation. She signed a sworn non-disclosure agreement after going through the class on the law so she cannot claim ignorance.
     
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    Someone storing gasoline filled cans next to an open flame undoubtedly didn't intend for his house to be blown to bits (and substantial damage to his neighbor's home as well). But he would still be held responsible for such a stupid and careless act. So to claim Clinton's intent was not to cause potential damage
    to this nation's security, when she deliberately avoided doing State Department business on secure government servers, is pointless and really is grasping at straws. She is still guilty of placing America at risk and that is enough to trigger prosecution (not that the Obama Regime will do their duty).
     
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    You hyperlibs are such "one-trick" ponies. Every time someone uses a point of comparison, for humor, irony, fact, or even dissimilarity that includes Hitler, you immediately invoke some guy named Godwin. Yes, we all know that "some guy" named Godwin made some whimsical comment about comparisons to Hitler, and, when it's harmonious with your point of view, you on the Left go around chirping about "Godwin, Godwin, Godwin". It's pretty worn out, especially when the point of referring to Hitler does bear relevance to the topic in discussion. Lost you, didn't I...? Well then, hey, after all, Godwin is so 1990's, Nat... find someone new to hold up as some kind of newer, greater Leftist savant. In 2016, frankly, yelling, "Godwin" at all comparisons you don't like is trite and boring.
     
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    She actually sent over 100 eMails containing classified material on her home brew eMail server.
     
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    Espionage does not require intent. Its an exception to the rule like statutory rape is for example. We currently have a navy crewman awaiting trial for taking a selfie in an engine room.
     
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    First the FBI would not contact her they would contact her attorney. Second if the FBI wants to talk to her she has no choice so her self-serving statement has no bearing. Third in such an investigation it proceeds first with the information and evidence gathering and THEN they start at the bottom of the chain and work their way up to the top. So that she has not been interviewed yet, they are just wrapping up the interviews with the subordinates which it is being reported got them lots of "I don't recall" responses which is the typical Clinton MOO, and that she is publically declaring her phony I want to cooperated all are meaningless drivel.

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    You believe the only wrongdoing on her part would be criminal?
     
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    I do not know the answer to that either...........no one has announced anything about the investigations findings..........Are you suggesting you know?
     
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    Hillary's aids will be faced with a decision, spill all or stand with Hillary. If Hillary's elected President she can pardon them after being inaugurated. If she loses to Trump, they will rot in jail till the grave. Or they can spill all and walk away now.
     
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    You mean, as opposed to knee jerk invoking all things Hitler/Nazi whenever the Kenyan Tyrant/Clintons are involved?
    :deadhorse::deadhorse::deadhorse:
     
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    OK, I confess it, Nat, you've caught me totally unaware here.... Who or what in the hell is/are the "Kenyan Tyrant/Clintons" and what have they got to do with either Godwin or (dare I mention the name) Adolf Hitler...?!

    [​IMG]. "First it was 'Godwin'. Now it's the 'Kenyan Tyrant/Clintons'? I've become so de rigueur!"
     
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    You're pretty much 100% wrong in most of your conspiracy theories. Hillary will be fine. And if they contacted her attorney her attorney would contact her, so that's useless semantics. She will be fine and the FBI will find no wrongdoing. You guys will continue to cry and find the next weird made up scandal to infatuate over and be wrong again.
     
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    Try branching out. Idi Amin, Stalin, Pol (Legal) Pot, Bobby Knight,.... the world is your bi-valve, brother.
     
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    Scant evidence? I'll say... All you can do is laugh at what's going on, and those defending her..

    Emails From Hillary Clinton’s IT Director at State Department Appear to Be Missing

    The State Department said today it can’t find any of Bryan Pagliano’s emails from the time he served as Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s senior information technology staffer during her tenure there.

    Pagliano would have been required to turn over any official communications from his work account before he left the government. State Department officials say he had an official email account, but that they can't find any of those records and continue to search for them.

    “The Department has searched for Mr. Pagliano’s email pst file and has not located one that covers the time period of Secretary Clinton’s tenure,” State Department spokesman Elizabeth Trudeau said today, referencing a file format that holds email.

    “To be clear, the Department does have records related to Mr. Pagliano and we are working with Congress and [Freedom of Information Act] requesters to provide relevant material. The Department has located a pst from Mr. Pagliano’s recent work at the Department as a contractor, but the files are from after Secretary Clinton left the Department," Trudeau added

    This statement about Pagliano’s email comes in response to a FOIA request-turned-lawsuit by the Republican National Committee, which wants the State Department to turn over all his emails as well as Clinton’s text and Blackberry Messenger communications. In a court filing today, the RNC said the State Department has told them there are no documents responsive to either of those requests.

    Pagliano was responsible for setting up the now-infamous private server in the basement of the Clinton's home in Chappaqua, New York. He has since become a key witness in the FBI inquiry into the handling of sensitive material on that server and has been granted immunity by the Justice Department in exchange for his cooperation.

    “It’s hard to believe that an IT staffer who set up Hillary Clinton’s reckless email server never sent or received a single work-related email in the four years he worked at the State Department," the RNC's Deputy Communications Director, Raj Shah, said in a statement to ABC News. "Such records might shed light on his role in setting up Clinton’s server, and why he was granted immunity by the FBI. But it seems that his emails were either destroyed or never turned over, adding yet another layer to the secrecy surrounding his role.”


    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/emai...or-staffer-state-department/story?id=38989504
     
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    What has malice to do with anything. There's nothing malicious about running a red light, driving reckless, speeding, or driving drunk. But they're all punishable crimes, whether anyone gets hurt or not. Dicking with national security is a hell of a lot more weighty than driving wrong. Hillary Clinton is just another lawyer who was given extraordinary responsibility, to which she swore fealty. Turns out she treated it like her own personal dinner napkin. This nation doesn't need Hillary Clinton for anything. Why treat her like some priceless national treasure?
     
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    It's a simple question, do you believe the only wrong doing, especially by a public official who routinely deals with top secret information, is that which is criminal?
     
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    You are pretty much left with nothing by simple self-serving dismissals. But then there is no defense for the acts in which she engaged.


    ROFL no it is typical Clintonspeak and you fall for it hook line and sinker. She said SHE had not been contacted by anyone, she didn't say anything about her attorney.
     
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    To the liberal Democrat mind their part of the nation needs her -- for uninterrupted expansion and provision of handout welfare programs (even though any other Democrat could do exactly the same thing, but without her baggage of stupidity and reckless negligence).

    And their justification for "Hillary über alles"? Democrats understand it instantly -- It's her turn, and she's got a vagina! The gigantic Democrat Welfare Circus and the hyperliberal, double-think Political Correctness parade are all that matter to them....

    [​IMG]. "Wipe a server? Well, first you take a cloth...."
     
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    And who told you she had all classified information faxed to her and if that went to her home a NON-SCIF she broke the law. If she had it sent to her unsecured blackberry, she broke the law. And then there are those pesky 2200 classified EMAILS including TOP SECRET on her emails server.

    You mentioned one singular document as if it represents ALL her communications and that one itself presents HUGE legal problems for her.
     
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