Scant Evidence That Clinton Had Malicious Intent

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    You just made the case why she should never be elected President thank you very much.
     
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    It's not a secret that the State Department used "cables." The fact that they used them came out when Julian Assange leaked lots of them in Wikileaks in 2010. I mentioned a single document (one I knew you were aware of) as an example of the fact that the State Department used those secure cables to transmit classified material rather than email.
     
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    So all you have is conjecture. And prove that classified information is transmitted EXCLUSIVELY over there cables.
     
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    Conjecture? It's not conjecture that they used cables and email to communicate. It's not conjecture that secret information was sent by secure FAX and not email, in the very example I used.

    In this country, it's the responsibility of the prosecution to prove guilt, not the responsibility of the accused to prove innocence. She hasn't even been charged with anything and IMO, she won't be. I was simply explaining to you that there were at least two methods for electronic communication used by the State Department and that FAX was used in sending classified information. When the FAX didn't work, they would strip out the secure information and send "talking points" by email, just like the example I used. Since they had two separate means of relaying information and one was specifically used for secure information, it helps explain the controversy over classifying information found in her emails after the fact. At the time they were sent, they weren't marked as such because if they had been, those documents would have been sent by cable and not email.
     
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    You are correct in stating that anyone with the mentality, perspicacity, and attention-span of Hilarity should not (NOT) be elected president. BUT, she will be. Obama put "the fix" in on March 11th when he commanded the deep-pockets Limousine Liberals of the Libocrat Party to close ranks and support her -- period!

    Now, who runs the FBI, and the "Justice" Department, and the State Department...? Who? Every single (*)(*)(*)(*)ing one of them is an Obama appointee! Like I've said at least a half-dozen times, Hilarity could be caught murdering a blind child on the steps of the U. S. Capitol building, but Libocrats would make excuses for her and instead send the "Justice" Department out to castigate the sovereign State of North Carolina because it wants to keep twisted, (*)(*)(*)(*)ed-up perverts out of the wrong public bathrooms. To hell with the blind child -- focus instead on making certain that crazy people who don't even know what the hell they are have access to bathrooms of the opposite sex! THAT is the way their minds work.... And national security or classified information? Ha! It's for sure that people who spend half their time waiting for their welfare checks to arrive in the mail couldn't care less about those things....
     
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    REPORT: Hillary’s Emails Hacked by Russia – Kremlin Deciding Whether to Release 20,000 Stolen Emails (VIDEO)

     
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    LOL, still believe in Hillary?
     
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    OH so now it's both ROFL

    FYI

    What the Heck Is a 'Cable' Anyway?
    No, the State Department isn't sending telegraphs

    "(NEWSER) – When WikiLeaks released 250,000 classified State Department cables, it raised an inevitable question: The State Department still sends cables? Fear not; our diplomats aren’t actually communicating in Morse code, Slate’s Explainer column assures us. Though “cables” used to refer to telegraphs, these days they’re basically group emails; the State Department even handles them with Microsoft Outlook."

    http://www.newser.com/story/106459/what-the-heck-is-a-cable-anyway.html

    You guys desperation is blaring with your made up excuses. The classified emails were found on HER private server, she transmitted them through it and stored them on it. And yes we do have what is called FAX to email now. And no they are NOT allowed to "strip" classifications and send classified information over non-secured means.

    But do provide us a website which supports your claims.
     
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    Over you and your Google searches... yea
     
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    Then tell us why she did what she did and how someone who publicly stated she KNOWS what is and isn't classified information so reckless dealt with it.
     
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    Exactly. I have had clearance at the Secret level. You don't mess around with it. You don't play with it. You don't pretend to not know what it is. Every single thing you do is deemed Secret until notified otherwise.

    Hillary is either incredibly corrupt or incredibly stupid. I'm going with both.
     
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    She's already explained it. She did it for convenience of having all her basic emails on one phone. It wasn't meant for classified information and it's already been shown by multiple state officials that classification is subjective and there are complaints about them over classifying information. This argument that she should know every single thing that some official will deem classified is hilarious. She'll be fine, you'll be wrong again.
     
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    Yes, you defend mishandling secret or sensitive information by the political elite while those of us with Top Secret clearances (which I had in the service) would be thrown in jail if we did anything close to what she did.
     
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    "Now, 11 or 12 years later, as part of a whole process of reviewing things somebody in the department says, 'Well, they're classified.' My response to that is no they were not," Powell said. " You can say your judgment is they should have been classified but at the time they were not classified.
    Clinton's presidential campaign said the news and Powell's reaction reinforces their view that Clinton's messages are being overclassified and that the retroactive judgments to do that are unfair.

    "We agree with Sec. Powell that his emails are being overclassified & they should be released along [with] Hillary's," Clinton campaign chair John Podesta said on Twitter.

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    Based on Hillary's statement she doesn't think they should be classified and should be shared with the public. You should be on her side on this, lol. Don't you guys constantly cry about the government not being transparent? Now all of a sudden officials are saying the classification of these messages are ridiculous and the public should see them, you are now defending the government to keep secrets? Hmmmmmm... you don't seem very credible.
     
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    Because setting up and maintaining your own server expected to receive and transmit state secrets is so convenient.
     
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    Some of you will continue to believe a proven liar and take anything she says at face value because you want a win and do not care about the country or it's security.
     
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    It wasn't set up to receive and transmit state secrets. They have separate systems for that.

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    You believe a lot of weird stuff. I'm not surprised.
     
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    Wrong again, I don't believe weird stuff (Hillary).
     
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    Multi-million dollar email systems she refused to employ or setup. Funny that. Email is a primary method of communication, and she cannot control what sensitive information is sent to her while jet setting around the globe trading favors for donations to her foundation.
     
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    It wasn't setup for secrets or classified information. And external systems for basic work information was allowed. Since the information is public information anyway, why is it that big of a deal to you, lol. They have their own systems for handing different forms of classified material.
     
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    Ahhh she had to shelve that excuse when it was disclosed she used several devices and it was meant for ALL her official communications without regard to classification, she refused to use the secure channels and secure equipment. Stop making things up. And she is trained that she has to assume something is classified not the other way around. And the PURPOSE of only using government servers and equipment is to control such information to make sure it is properly classified and since the State Department security did not have direct access to where she was storing such information through her gross negligence they could not secure her communications or if by chance an email with classified information was transmitted over the normal system they could not retrieve all copies of that email to put into a secure location.
     
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    She never "shed that excuse". Carrying around an iPad and a Blackberry is normal. What she did was perfectly legal. She'll be fine and you'll be wrong as always. The information is friggin public information, what is the big deal? Lol.
     
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    It was setup as her ONLY means of conducting her official duties using email communication without regard to classified information. She REFUSED a .gov address, she REFUSED a secure email address for classified communications, she REFUSED the properly secured equipment she was offered.

    Why? Because then all her communications would be immediately archived which she was desperately trying to circumvent.
     
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