scientific evidence of God

And yours is the correct interpretation? LOL.

Then what was the VALUE AND FUNCTION of the Quantum Particle/Wave Form at the event of the Big Bang? Also who was the observer for that event?

Likewise then you should leave the religious discussion pages until such time as you have learned enough to hold an intelligent discussion on the subject of religion and especially Christianity and God.

 

here's teh' problem with the observer argument.

if god is omniscient a unobserved form cannot exist so comming into existence once observed is impossible. the observer doesnt have to be god either, all possibilities exist until in one of the possibille realities an observation is made by for example a human, then the collapatastorphy falls into that reality.

amirite?

 

Wave Function and Value is INDETERMINATE as well as EXISTING AT ALL FUNCTIONS AND VALUES SIMULTANEOUSLY!!!

Look....I understand you spent 5 minutes reading what some Religious Website claimed was PROOF that for the Big Bang to exist a GOD had to be observing....but among the various degrees I hold one is specific to PARTICLE PHYSICS!!!

You are walking in MY VALLEY OF KNOWLEDGE....and I am TRYING to explain to you what you are posting is complete NONSENSE.

Look....in the spirit of FORUM MEMBERSHIP COOPERATION....I will suggest you read this.

LINK....http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/04/quantum-computers-spooky-entanglement_n_4043127.html

In the bizarre realm of quantum physics, the particles that make up everything can behave in strange ways. For instance, a particle can apparently exist in two or more places at once, and two or more particles can get linked so they stay in sync instantaneously no matter how far apart they are. Einstein derisively called this seemingly impossible connection "spooky action at a distance" — scientists nowadays give it the name quantum entanglement.

Now a Quantum Computer must be COMPLETELY SEALED and the internal workings CAN NEVER BE LOOKED AT!!!

Why?

Because the moment someone looked into the internal sealed workings of a say 1000 Quibit Quantum Computer IT WOULD NO LONGER FUNCTION PROPERLY!!!

Why?

I want YOU...to read this article and then I want YOU to look up what a QUIBIT is and THEN...you will truly understand why I am telling you what YOU are posting is NONSENSE.

AboveAlpha

 

This is why a MULTIVERSAL SYSTEM most likely exists.

We have already built both 100 Qubit and 1000 Quibit QUATUM COMPUTERS and they will only work as long as they remain COMPLETELY SEALED as this allows INDETERMINATE VALUE AND FUNCTION as well as allows QUANTUM ENTANGLEMENT....to take place as each Quibit allows a single Electron to exist in a completely INDETERMINATE STATE and this ability along with Quantum Entanglement allows a Quantum Computer to have many...many times the computational ability over even the best existing Supercomputer.

AboveAlpha

 

Just scanning your words above and not reading it in its entirety, I will say that when you are in a religious forum in which I am a participant, then you are walking in my valley of knowledge and you are definitely not prepared to speak on anything pertaining to God and the Holy Spirit. Therefore, your words of science mean nothing to me.. You are not an expert on any of the science subjects here (if you were, then you would have bragged about such notoriety) Therefore, yours is just another layman opinion on those subjects. You chose to believe those things told to you by others in that same vein and you chose to accept those things you were told as being true. However, you have also failed to show 'proof' of claim. Even in your boisterous words above you have not compelled my mind to accept what you have declared as true.... you have not shown any PROOF. See www.thefreedictionary.com/proof definition #1.

 

Unbelievable!

You know...even though I have stated many times it is not important to me whether a member believes a single thing I post....I think this time I will make an exception.

You are replying to me in a manner that is specific to you being able to save face and you are attempting to strike back in a way that poorly attempts to question the veracity of what I am posting by attempting CHARACTER ASSASSINATION OF THE MEMBER POSTING IT.

This is fairly standard procedure of Highly Religious Individuals and can be seen being done in POLITICS as when certain Political Groups cannot contest the Science, Mathematics or LOGIC presented by a person they will instead change tactics and attempt to question the reliability, character and Honor or the one presenting such impossible to disprove scientific evidence and proof.

As such people and groups have found that to continue to angrily yell and scream IT'S NOT TRUE AND THIS PERSON WE THINK ADVOCATES GAY MARRIAGE tends to find traction and the backing of equally inept in education and knowledge individuals and like those Scientist and Climatologists warning about the coming disasters driven by Global Warming.....if they simply keep screaming it's not true and those scientists and climatologists are 67% Democrats therefor they must all be GAY and want to ABORT CHILDREN....then the message of disaster is over shadowed.

If you even had 5% of the knowledge I have your head would POP!

AboveAlpha

 

When did the very first incident of a wave function occur? Be specific in details and show proof of claim?

 

The mathematics in our reality works by direct causal effect. Correct assumptions backed up by proper mathematics produce correct results. Equations can be produced that accurately reflect the specifications of our earth systems. However, our physical reality is a subset of a larger nonphysical reality that functions under a more loose and general causality. The specifications for the smaller reality are not adequate for the larger reality. Progress by Einstein and other quantum theorists stalled because they were focused on the mathematics of the smaller reality.

Einstein struggled for many years to come up with a Unified Field Theory but failed because he was using little picture terms to describe the big picture. He knew about the big picture but didn’t realize that it is a superset containing the little picture. He was keen to the idea that there is a nonphysical basis for the field since mass is just a high-energy field, but he was on a fruitless search for a continuous field.

Einstein also declared that our relationship to space and time is illusional. Contemporary scientists agree, but those who can’t think outside the box still can’t make any headway with it. Bohm, Bohr, Heisenberg, and Wigner were onto the consciousness theme but didn’t perceive its digital nature and didn’t get the big picture concept.

Is this far enough above the chimp level?

The new paradigm has spawned a movement that is under way worldwide.

 

Feel free to start thread 2. This one is at max post capacity

Thanks
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