Senate Report on Beghanzi proves multiple Fox Lies/Myths

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  1. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm sure you can find lots of RW propaganda sources that say that, right next to them making the false "stand down" claim.

    But I just quoted the Senate Intelligence Report saying that it very well could have been caused by the video.

    Are you taking the position that the Report is unreliable and untrustworthy?

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    You made the claim "Hillary knew and rejected the calls for more security. It was HER job."

    You can't back up your own factual assertions? What a surprise.
     
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    Who was the head of the State Dept.? Who would have had to make the call for more security? Huh?
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Typo in the OP, it should say "... which is now confirmed as a flat out lie?"
     
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    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    It seems rather silly to try and shift blame from Hillary Clinton, the Secretary of State, and Obama, the President......to Fox News! Sorry, but Fox News wasn't in any position....as they both were.....to prevent any of what happened at Benghazi.

    How dare Fox News blast them for their failures!!! They should just sit by and be lap dogs for Obama and Hillary....as the mainstream media/press are.:)
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you're going to blame Clinton for the Benghazi attack simply because she was SoS? And I assume you have also blamed Bush for 9-11 because he was the head of the armed forces national security, right?
     
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    You mean the incomplete Senate Intelligence Report? Post 45:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=339597&page=5
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It seems kind of silly to excuse Fox News for numerous now proven lies, deceptions, and fabrications about Benghazi, doesn't it?
     
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    Yeah. Wasn't it Hillary's ad when she was running against Obama that said if the phone rang at 3am, she'd be the best one to handle it??? Well....apparently not so much. She and Obama BOTH slept right threw it.....for months. Imagine knowing that there were 10 al Qaeda training camps right there in Benghazi and not getting those people out of there months before OR at least heavily securing it? And then trying to pass it all off as a spontaneous attack based on some video???? Al Qaeda was right there under their noses, for heaven's sakes!!!!
     
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    Are you taking the position the Report is untrustworthy?

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    Kind of like President Bush in the 9 months before 9-11, right? You did blame him for 9-11, right?

    But you didn't have Fox News and the RW propaganda outlets fabricating stories about it like we've seen here.
     
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    Are we really surprised?

    Fox is a for profit company that markets to a niche audience, an audience that is, in my opinion, predisposed to favor anything that reflects poorly upon a Democrat over facts and reality.

    Rather than wait to have the facts in the matter, Fox appears to have simply filled in the gaps, gaps the size of the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing Grand Canyon, with rumor and innuendo, then rolled it up, put a nice bow on it, and handed it over to their adoring fans who were more than happy to lap it up like the good little dogs they are.

    I think that Fox is an excellent microcosm study on what ails this country, namely that partisans, highly partisan folks, need reinforcement for their positions, rather than facts that may challenge them.
     
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    Did you read what I posted? How can you not come to that conclusion when relevant people were not allowed to be interviewed and documents that were requested were never provided?
     
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    I don't care about Fox News! They are NOT the President and NOT the Secretary of State and had nothing to do with security or what happened there. But Hillary and Obama DID!

    If you think Fox News is lying to you...then change the freakin' channel to CNN where I'm sure you'd get more news to your liking. But that doesn't negate the fact that Obama and Hillary failed at their jobs.
     
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    Oh, they don't care about that one. They don't care that the president and S.O.S. were NOT cooperative. And they never wonder why either.
     
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    Good for you. Fox News generated lies and fabrications like the false "stand down" orders and the like that dominated the news and discussion on boards like this one for months. And now what we see in the new Senate Report is, once again, how they lied and deceived and fabricated, which lies and deceptions and fabrications were posted on boards like this one by conservatives again and again.

    Do you think they'll learn from this? My guess is no. It is willful ignorance.

    Since you are blaming her personally, tell us what was Hillary's role in the decision making as to security detail for the dipolmatic posts throughout the world?

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    Are you taking the position that the Senate Report is untrustworthy too?

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    Are you taking the position the Report is untrustworthy? And therefore its conclusions are bogus?

    It would be good to know. We've seen lots of conservatives relying on this Report in recent days.
     
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    Please cite where the Report says the president and SOS were NOT cooperative. Thanks.
     
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    Oh yeah....time to change the subject....yet again....to Bush. It's what libs do. Leftwing fabrication of stories....

    Strange how you give Obama and Hillary NO BLAME whatsoever. How do you feel about Hillary telling one of the mother's of the slain Americans....."We'll get that guy who made the video?" By the way.....do they have him in custody somewhere? :)
     
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    It's always relevant to point out hypocritical positions people are taking. It's a credibility thing.
     
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    I think it is as trustworthy as was allowed by the incomplete and inconclusive information. Without subpoena action the administration was free to parse what information it provided and who they allowed to be interviewed.

    So yes. On its face, this report is untrustworthy. I want to get to the bottom of it.
     
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    what a bunch of total freakn bs.
     
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    So your view, it's fair to question the Report's conclusions as to State's responsibility for insufficient security. Fair enough.

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    Gosh, what a surprise coming from you.

    You're saying the Senate Intelligence report is a bunch of freaking BS. Fair enough.
     
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    No, Im saying your op is BS.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OK, you're not saying the Senate Report is bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

    What in your opinion is BS about the OP?
     
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    This report, the NYT investigation, and the blatant lying Lara Logan was caught in have official put an end to the "Benghazi cover up". Though as usual most right wingers will ignore facts in favor of delusions.
     
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    Just like you Lefties are doing. Still claiming it was a video protest. LMAO!
     
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    Yup evidence suggests it played a part LMAO!
     

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