Serbs Desecrated Jewish Cemetery in Sarajevo

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  1. Fini

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    Hahahahahaha!

    Coming from bosniakandjewishfreindship.wordpress.com

    LOL!
     
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    why do you expect us to read serbian sources than?!:omg:
    B92 is not bad though :)
     
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    this Serb army went into family tombs in the Jewish cemetery, which is located on a hill so it can face Jerusalem. In these tombs, they actually built rudimentary elevators so that the soldiers would rise from the tombs, shoot in every direction, kill civilians, and then disappear back into the earth.


    Even you have to admit that this is absurd and ridiculous.
    Come on now, what's next? Serbian soldiers flying with jet packs through the sky and throwing grenades on towns? :lol:
     
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    Why is this surprising?
     
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    Because it didn't happen. :-D
     
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    I have never heard of this incident, but found this:

    Unknown attackers desecrate Sarajevo Jewish cemetery

    http://www.abcnews.go.com/wire/World/reuters20001111_521.html

    SARAJEVO, Nov 11 (Reuters) - Unknown assailants have desecrated the old Jewish cemetery in Sarajevo, which was heavily damaged during a 43-month-long Bosnian Serb siege of the city. Douglas Coffman, spokesman for the U.N. mission in Bosnia, said the attack happened on Friday night. "Approximately 32 tombstones were damaged," he said. Police were investigating, but it was too early to say who could be behind the incident, he said, adding that the United Nations did not believe it was related to Bosnia"s general elections taking place on Saturday. The 16-century cemetary, which was demined only three years after the end of the 1992-5 war, has recently been partly reconstructed. The newly damaged tombstones stood among others still wrecked from the fighting. "It"s a disastrous picture. I am sorry that this happened," the head of the local Sarajevo council Ljubisa Markovic told Reuters Television News on a visit to the site. He said police were doing everything in their power to find the perpetrators of "this barbarous act." Danilo Nikolic, president of the Jewish community in Sarajevo, said the incident could be linked to the elections but also to the Middle East, since there were a number of Arabs in Bosnia, where Muslims are a majority. The Arabs have recently staged protests here against Israeli troops" killing of Palestinians in more than a month of violence. At least 200 people, mostly Arabs, have died. "I have no information on how and why this happened, but this cannot be an accident," Nikolic said, noting that it took place on the Sabbath, a Jewish holiday, and also before elections seen as fundamental for Bosnia"s future. "This was probably not done by people who are for a common life but by those who want to pull Bosnia back to dark waters," Nikolic said. Jews are a tiny minority in Bosnia and have little influence on politics. The cemetery stood on the front line during the civil war, and at one point Jewish leaders were reported to have given the go-ahead to Moslem-led government troops to use it in their defence against Serb separatists.
     
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    That did happen. What that Muslim and Jewish friendship (LOL) website is saying is just a load of crap made up by them to further degrade the image of Serbs.
     
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    they try hard to justify cemetery bombing

    ''The damage to the cemetery and nearby buildings was mostly caused by returned fire from the city below.''


    http://www.isjm.org/links/sarajevo.htm
     
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    Even Indiana Jones movies had more sense than this. Why would Serb forces made an elevators (!?!?!?!) in a Jewish cemetery, why not Muslim one, it would be more logical that Muslims wouldn't shell their own graveyard. And pls, 'soldiers who are rising from a tomb via elevator' and of course killing who? Civilians!
    It's absolutely despicable to read all this and what is even more disturbing is that you guys are trying to exploit Jewish tragedy from the WW2 for a personal benefit! Your blatant lies and Serbophobia actually equals Nazis' actions!
    Also, I opened that web page you linked here and found series of complete nonsenses! Do we suffer dementia, or we have no basic history knowledge when we confuse who was exterminating en masse Jews from Balkans?

    I can type a lot about Jewish-Serbian holocaust survivors, I can post here their letters of support to Serbia, how they fought tooth and nail your propaganda and for that suffered heavy criticism, but won't go that way. To me it's sufficient that they live/ed their lives in Serbia and accomplishing or accomplished them selves as famous writers, poets, artist, actors, doctors etc.
     
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    It would not be the first time that serbs desecrated jewish cemeteries ! In fact serbs were praising themselves that Belgrade was the first city in Europe without jews(judenfrei) ! They exterminated all jews...
    Let me remind you a little bit of your history...
    Parade of Serbian Nazi Collaborators in Belgrade (22 June 1944) :
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xWU1A6-xJE"]YouTube - ‪Parade of Serbian Nazi Collaborators in Belgrade (22 June 1944)‬‏[/ame]

    Notice to Israel: Serbs and Serbia were Nazi Collaborators in World War II

    As a survivor of the Holocaust, I am increasingly agitated by Serbian revisionist propaganda on the internet.

    The crimes of the Croatian Ustashas were terrible, but the Serbian Chetniks also collaborated with German Nazis in World War II. Serbia was a Nazi puppet state in World War II led by Milan Nedic, Serbian fascist collaborator.

    The oppression of Jews in Serbia started before the arrival of Hitler's occupying forces. Six months before the Nazi invasion of Yugoslavia, Serbia voluntarily passed the legislation restricting Jewish participation in the economy, education and employment. One year later, on 22 October 1941, anti-Semitic "Grand Anti-Masonic Exhibit" was funded by Serbia's capital city, Belgrade.

    Serbian Nazi fascists worked closely with German Nazi officials in making Belgrade the first "Judenfrei" city of Europe. Serbian leader Milan Nedic made an official visit to Adolf Hitler on 19 September 1943, advancing the idea that Serbia is no place for Jews and thanking 'Führer' for his decision to exterminate our people in Europe.

    By Yahalom Kashny
     
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    You have some proofs for the claims from the web page posted by Bosnian or you just make your own conclusions to trow a mud on my nation?
    It was propaganda used for the purpose of war and it was related to Masons more than to Jews.
    Again, not true. NDH comes to my mind... also, some of the Serbian Holocaust survivors as Jasha Almuli and Klara Mandic fought against such a propaganda. I guess, based on your post, you deny them right to be a Jews...
    So what? Every major city in the Nazi occupied Europe had the same. Once the country was liberated by Partisans they were treated accordingly. Is there a single country in Europe who didn't had a Nazi collaborators? Just to remind you that Albanians from Kosovo formed infamous SS Scanderbeg division...actually there is a whole thread about it rolling in the section.
    Serbs were the victims, you can't deny historical facts, same as Roma and Jews and it is written in the WW2 holocaust memorial museum to be remembered always. You can post letters and propaganda as much as you wish, it's has much less relevance and besides it is completely off topic.


    http://www.ushmm.org/museum/press/archives/detail.php?category=06-exhibitions&content=2001-11-13
     
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    I don't need to throw mud on your nation, you did it voluntarily ! Your nation commited the biggest massacres after WWII in Europe's soil ! Do I need to remind you of Srebrenica genocide, not to mention tens of other massacres carried out by your forces - mostly against women, children, elders and barehanded peoples ?
    As you may know Nedic was a Nazi collaborator, Belgrade was the first city to be declared Jewish free and that author is a Jew !!!

    Oh really, and who said that, 'srpska mreza' the biggest brainwasher on the Balkan region !!!

    irrelevant ! Even in Germany you can find Jews,nowadays but that can't erase nor deny the history of the past

    Not true. They can never be compared with serbian nazi and fascistic organized structure who planned and executed jews as per planned projects !!! "Belgrade judenfrei" - what does it sounds to you? To me it is very clear !!!


    Serbs were perpetrators and aggressors all the time. You should only remind yourself of genocide committed by your nation during ex-Yu wars !!!
     
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    Lena, you must remember and understand that you have been born a Serb, a perpetrator and aggressor. If we don't exterminate you or another newborn we would have natural born genetic killers among living humanity.

    I mean what is the purpose to submit arguments or facts to Margot, or judge or moon and Co posing as Holocaust survivors all over I-net? The lowest of the lowest, the sickest of sickest.
     
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    So a Serbian site is automatically considered brainwash propaganda while a Bosnian one is not? Where's your logic?

    As Lena said, you have this disease known as Serbophobia, and you should get it checked.

    A small percentage of Serbs was for the Nazis. Majority of Partisans were Serbs.

    You need to get your head out of your ass and stop hating on Serbs because you still don't have your independence in Kosovo.

    Now, good bye.
     
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    How hard is to be accused of the 'biggest massacres' after WW2 when war in Ex YU was the first and only war in Europe after WW2 and Serbia de facto the strongest Ex YU republic in every sense (military, population etc.)
    If we compare, once again, military hardware, population and area of the military and paramilitary actions of sides involved in the conflicts (no matter year or nation) we can easily conclude that all sides involved in the conflicts did their best to eliminate the 'enemy' nation. Number of the casualties, civilian as well, corespondents with the actual force one of the nation in conflict had.
    It's not the question IF I know...I know very well who Nedic was and he was a Nazi collaborator, but on the other hand I know well that 'Jewish free Belgrade' declaration was only propaganda. There were around 12,000 Jews in Belgrade before WW2 and after war there were 1,115 survivors of the holocaust, Jewish municipality started work right after the liberation of the Belgrade. Based on a historical evidences, your claim of 'Jewish free Belgrade', even before WW2 is simply unsustainable.

    Obviously you read Srpska Mreza but I don't. It was all concluded by LenaSrb, Sr.Correspondent of the PF, based on what I posted above; if you don't mind, I prefer to use my own brain cells.

    It started to be relevant at the point when you claimed that Serbs exterminated all Jews which is an absolute nonsense. Also, just for the sake of truth, you were talking about Kingdom of Yugoslavia which was later, after Nazi invasion (Bombing of the Belgrade etc.) divided into occupation zones. Look at the map, look at the NDH, look at the zones of jurisdictions, compare with a concentration camps and who was in charge of the same and tell me what is unclear to you, pls.
    [​IMG]

    To you many things could be clear or not, but as I already said and explained, it's not sustainable.

    Why should I remind my self of anything when you repeat it twice in the same post even when it's absolutely off topic. I guess it's your cup of tea and food for your brain, not mine.

    Now, back on topic... Why don't you answer my initial question instead of all this diverting of the topic.

    You have some proofs for the claims from the web page posted by Bosnian or you just make your own conclusions to trow a mud on my nation?
     
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    He's obsessed with using his fairy tales to prove to somebody that Serbs are these big bad monsters.
     
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    I strongly disagree with this statement,it is wrong and thankless.Only three European countries had real anti-Nazi resistance:Yugoslavia,Albania and Greece,and Yugoslavian was the strongest one.What can the fact of the existence of collaborators prove?All nations had collaborators during the WW2 including even Jews,but this fact in itself do not describe the position of the whole nation.

    There are Nazi bastards in every European country now,but only this fact do not show the position of a nation,too.

    So what of do you accuse Serbs?
     
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    Albania had barely any Nazi resistance. They welcomed Italians into their country to take them over.
     
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    Let's be true and remember Enver Hoxha's guerrilla army .
     
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    Albanians did not welcome Italians, Albanian king Zog at that time was expelled and he run out the country a day before they came not to be shot by the people since HE gave them control over the country and not people.
     
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    I know this but I'm trying to imply they did not have as much resistance as Yugoslavia.
     
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    Haters can get in line and face a debate on forums instead of hitting exclamation mark and parroting same old, same old on every thread.

    One of the most patriotic poems devoted to motherland Serbia-'Srbija' was written by Oskar Davico, a Serbian Jew.
    Serbian Jews stood by us in a difficult times even though they had an opportunity to leave the country, especially during NATO aggression, they fought for our motherland and for that they have my respect! Other Jews from around the world, their letters and their opinion (posted by Albanian on this thread) is not of my concern.
     

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