Serbs Desecrated Jewish Cemetery in Sarajevo

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  1. DaVinci

    DaVinci New Member

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    Do you have any idea how clueless you are ? :D
     
  2. frozy

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    Dardanian, Nicf is too emotional kinda Serb,if you don't hate him:you have to love all serbs including criminals and war criminals.If you don't like them you don't like the nation which means you're mean serbo-phobic albanian/bosnian/croat/montenegrin/bulgarian:-D He gotta be still a kid, so don't hurt his feelings:)
     
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    Do not know why you call me Dardanian ? I made a bit a research and found out that , there is a poster with that nick with whom we have in common only nationality :)
     
  4. frozy

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    oh my bad :omg: lapsus lingue :mrgreen:
     
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    They need better English classes in the Balkans.
     
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    Volker New Member Past Donor

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    Russia, Poland, France, Italy? No resistance?
     
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    Volker New Member Past Donor

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    If these Albanian schools in Kosovo are so good, why are so many Kosovo Albanians terrorists and criminals?

    And if your comprehension skills are so developed, why do you have problems to understand a simple sentence with like a dozen words? I understand this sentence.
     
  8. ValmirZz

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    Meybe we have many Criminals but not Terrorists,Not only Albanians are Criminals , there are other nations like us too but i think we are a little bit more exposed to Medias.
     
  9. LenaSrb

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    Swastikas sprayed on top of tombstones in a Jewish cemetery in the capital Pristina, Kosovo , seen Thursday, Dec. 1, 2011.

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    This picture taken in Pristina on December 1, 2011 shows defaced gravestones at the Jewish cemetry.



    Ciao
     
  10. DaVinci

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    These horrific events were carried out by serbian terroristic secret services.... If we only recall history...
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    Operation Opera Orientalis (also known as Operation Opera and Operation Labrador was a false flag operation carried out during the Yugoslav Wars. In August 1991, the Jewish cemetery and Jewish community center in Zagreb, Croatia were bombed. The individuals responsible for the bombing were later found to be members of the Serb-controlled Yugoslav Air Force intelligence service.

    Operation Opera was an attempt to discredit Croatia in the West, and ostensibly to detract from the validity of Croatia's demands for independence. The action was coordinated with a flood of false accusations launched by Serbian media and pro-Serb worldwide lobbies, such as the Belgrade-based Serbian-Jewish Friendship Society, in which independent Croatia was associated with World War II, Nazism and anti-Judaism. During Slobodan Milošević's trial at the ICTY, former KOS agent Mustafa Čandić testified that KOS agents infiltrated HDZ circles, launched terrorist attacks at Jewish graves in Mirogoj and then fled to Belgrade. According to the testimony, the officer in charge for Operation Labrador was the head of the security department, Slobodan Rakočević, in Zemun, while the operative staff of the second detachment of the counter-intelligence group in Zagreb were Colonel Ivan Sabolović and Major Čedo Knežević. With respect to Operation Opera, Radenko Radojčić was in charge.

    Within several days of the bombing, however, tens of thousands of people, among them government and religious officials, poured into the streets of Zagreb to express their support for the Jewish community. Damages from the bombing were quickly repaired with the help of the Croatian government.
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    Typical serv action, I would add !
     
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    History? This happened few days ago in Albanian controlled area of Serbian Southern Province of Kosovo and Metohija.
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    Even if I take this as you copy/pasted it, and google for a source only, I have found very interesting info by following articles used for a wiki page you used.
    Affairs in the army which is used for a part 'Operation Opera Orientalis (also known as Operation Opera and Operation Labrador[1]) was a false flag operation carried out during the Yugoslav Wars. In August 1991, the Jewish cemetery and Jewish community center in Zagreb, Croatia were bombed. The individuals responsible for the bombing were later found to be members of the Serb-controlled Yugoslav Air Force intelligence service.[2]'

    So, I followed number 2 which is a source for the above and found something which simply doesn't correspond with wiki stub you used:
    '...What were the practical consequences of all that?This is what younger officers in the Defense Ministry now insist on. The matter started unwinding with the "Opera" and "Labrador" affairs, the two sides of the same forged coin, they say. They didn't say, however, that these two affairs represented the culmination of the perfidious conflict between the security services of the army and the air force. It was the air force that launched both operations; "Opera" was of an active type (diversions, spreading misinformation, psychological war), while "Labrador" was of a passive-intelligence nature (infiltrating agents and setting up networks in Croatia).'
    http://www.scc.rutgers.edu/serbian_digest/44/t44-1.htm#IVC

    FYI, Commander of the Yugoslav AF was a General Jerkovich, an ethnic Croat, before him was a General Tus, an ethnic Croat.
    Facts are facts,
    Ciao
     
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    D. Cosis serbian father of nation :
    "“We lie to deceive ourselves, to console others, we lie for mercy, we lie to fight fear, to encourage ourselves, to hide our and somebody else's misery. We lie for love and honesty. We lie because of freedom. Lying is a trait of our patriotism and the proof of our innate intelligence. We lie creatively, imaginatively and inventively."

    Now, Serbian propaganda cases
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    Some of the cases of Serbian manipulation include:

    1) Battle of Pakrac

    During the Battle of Pakrac, Serbian newspaper "Večernje Novosti" reported that about 40 Serb civilians were killed in Pakrac on March 2, 1991 by the Croatian forces. The story was widely accepted by public and some ministers in Serbian government (e.g. Dragutin Zelenović). Attempts to confirm the report in other media from all 7 municipalities with the name Pakrac throughout the former Yugoslavia failed.

    2) "Vukovar baby massacre" case


    Day before the execution of 264 Croatian prisoners of war's and civilians in the Ovčara massacre, Serbian media released the news of 40 Serb babies being slaughterd in Vukovar. Dr. Vesna Bosanac, the head of Vukovar hospital from which the Croatian POW's and civilians were taken, said she believed the story of slaughtered babies was released intentionally to make Serb nationalists more angry thus inciting them to execute Croats.

    3)"Dubrovnik 30,000 Ustashas" case

    Before the Siege of Dubrovnik, JNA officers (namely Pavle Strugar) made a concerted effort at misrepresenting the military situation on the ground and exaggerated the "threat" of an Croatian attack on Montenegro by "30,000 armed Ustashas and 7000 terrorists, including Kurdish mercenaries". This propaganda was widely spread by the state-controlled media of Serbia and Montenegro.

    Actually, Croatian military forces in the area at September were virtually non-existent. The defenders included just one locally conscripted unit, numbered less than 1,500 men and had no tanks or heavy guns. Also, there were no mercenaries on the Croat side.

    4) "Dubrovnik burning tires" case
    During the Siege of Dubrovnik in 1991, while the Yugoslav army shelled the Croatian port town, Radio Television of Serbia showed Dubrovnik with columns of smoke explaining that the local people burning automobile tires to simulate destruction of the city.

    5) Operation Opera Orientalis

    During the secret intelligence Operation Opera Orientalis, while the Serb-controlled Yugoslav Air Force bombed Jewish cemetery and Jewish Community Center in Zagreb in August 1991, Serbian media repeatedly made false accusations in which Croatia was connected with World War II, nazism and anti-Judaism with the aim to discredit the Croatian demands for independence in the West

    6) 1992 Tuđman quote about "Croatia wanting the war"

    The Serbian media emphasized that Croatian president Franjo Tuđman started the war in Croatia. In order to corroborate that notion, the media repeatedly referenced his speech in Zagreb, on the 24 May 1992, claiming that he allegedly said: "There would not have been a war had Croatia not wanted one".[19] During their trials at the ICTY, Slobodan Milošević and Milan Martić also frequently resorted to that alleged Tuđman quote in order to prove their innocence.

    However, the ICTY prosecutors obtained the integral tape of his speech and played it in its entirety during Martić's trial on the 23 October 2006, proving that Tuđman never said that Croatia "wanted the war". Upon playing that tape, Borislav Đukić had to admit that Tuđman did not say that. The quote is actually the following: "Some individuals in the world who were not friends of Croatia claimed that we too were responsible for the war. And I replied to them: Yes, there would not have been a war had we given up our goal to create a sovereign and independent Croatia. We suggested that our goal should be achieved without war, and that the Yugoslav crisis should be resolved by transforming the federation, in which nobody was satisfied, particularly not the Croatian nation, into a union of sovereign countries in which Croatia would be sovereign, with its own army, own money, own diplomacy. They did not accept."

    7) "Bosnian mujahideen" case


    Serbian propaganda during the Bosnian war portrayed the Bosnian Muslims as violent extremists and fundamentalists. After series of massacres of Bosniaks, a few hundreds (between 300 and 1,500) of Arabic-speaking volunteers from the Middle East and North Africa, called Mujahideen, came into Bosnia in the second half of 1992 with the aim of helping their Muslim brothers. Serb media fabricated much bigger numbers of mujahideens presenting them as terrorists a huge threat to Europe,in order to inflame anti-Muslim hatred among Serbs. Although Serbian media created much controversy about alleged war crimes committed by them, no indictment was issued by ICTY against any of these foreign volunteers.

    8 ) "Prijedor monster doctors" case


    Just before the Prijedor massacre of Bosniak and Croat civilians, Serb propaganda characterising prominent non-Serbs as criminals and extremists who should be punished for their behaviour. Dr. Mirsad Mujadžić, Bosniak politician, was accused of injecting drugs into Serb women making them incapable of giving birth to male children, thus reducing the birth rate among Serbs, and dr. Željko Sikora, a Croat, referred to as the Monster Doctor, was accused of making Serb women abort if they were pregnant with male children and of castrating the male babies of Serbian parents. Moreover, in a "Kozarski Vjesnik" article dated June 10, 1992, Dr. Osman Mahmuljin was accused of deliberately having provided incorrect medical care to his Serb colleague dr. Živko Dukić, who had a heart attack.

    Mile Mutić, the director of Kozarski Vjesnik and the journalist Rade Mutić regularly attended meetings of Serb politicians (local authorities) in order to get informed about next steps of spreading propaganda.
    9)"Markale conspiracy" case

    The Markale massacres were two artillery attacks on civilians at the Markale marketplace, committed by the Army of Republika Srpska during the Siege of Sarajevo. Encouraged by the initial UNPROFOR report, Serbian media claimed that the Bosnian government had shelled its own civilians in order to drag the Western powers to intervene against the Serbs. However, in January 2003, the War Crime Tribunal concluded that the massacre was committed by Serb forces around Sarajevo.[35] Although widely reported by the international media, the verdict was ignored in Serbia itself.
    10) Lions from Pionirska Dolina case

    Lions from Pionirska Dolina case is the most bizarre case related to propaganda during Yugoslav wars. During the Siege of Sarajevo, Serb propaganda was trying to justify the siege at any cost. As the result of that effort Serbian national television gave a report about Serb children being given as a food for lions in Sarajevo ZOO called Pionirska Dolina by Muslim extremists.

    11) Executions of Tuzla

    Shortly after the events of the Tuzla column, the Serbian national television, reported the gathering and execution of Bosnian Serbs living in Tuzla at Stadium Tusanj, and disposal of the bodies in the nearby river Jala. No pictures of the selections, executions or carcasses, have been given by the Serb television, nor have been ever found. However the majority of Serbs during and after the war, still believe it happened.
     
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    Still no response... yet another off topic copy/paste spammer attack? How convenient...
     
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    D. Cosis serbian father of nation :
    "“We lie to deceive ourselves, to console others, we lie for mercy, we lie to fight fear, to encourage ourselves, to hide our and somebody else's misery. We lie for love and honesty. We lie because of freedom. Lying is a trait of our patriotism and the proof of our innate intelligence. We lie creatively, imaginatively and inventively."
     
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    There is an interesting part of te article and pretty much sarcastic presentation on how they actually function considering their dialogue with other countries xD

    :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:
     
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    I agree... I haven't seen a thread on Albanian muslims protesting Israel and Palestinian Rights to secession?

    that would be a good article to post?
     
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    You have a very high expectations from a members who spend all their time in watching trashy youtube videos, copy/pasting articles from the extreme nationalistic blogs and quoting a paragraphs of a novel as an actual extracts of someone's speech, while other quote uncyclopedia and finds it interesting.
     
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    spt5 and davinci are the same people because of the way they write and also the similar kind of news they post... with very similar biasness.
     
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    that's how you look like to an ordinary non-serb :) nothing irrelevant over there.
     
  20. AGS

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    you are not bosnian and 100% albanian too..Govoriti bosanski? Dje si ti?
     
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    Oh, really? 'Nothing irrelevant' must be a newly invented euphemism of idiotic. Should we all go that way and start using sources you find interesting and relevant?
    Let's see what Uncyclopedia offers today...
    Should I say 'that explains it all' or stick to my policy of skipping all very much irrelevant posts... What a dilemma ;)
     
  22. frozy

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    that doesn't hurt me at all:-|
     
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    I told you so :) serbs are natural born liars ! this trait of their nature(lying) was brilliantly expressed by Cosic himself !
     
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    wow Mona Lisa came
     
  25. AGS

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    yea I know and Mona Lisa is one angry woman.
     

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