Serious 'Stormfront' Question >>>MOD WARNING>>>

To a certain degree you may be right.

 

Great, I'm always pleased to be in the presence of a real marksman, so can we see some of your work here?

I'm not one for being impressed by talk without walk.

 

I was not a Markman, I qualified Expert in rifle, pistol and gernade all eight years I was in the Army. What did You ever do, ever have someone actually shoot at ya, me thinks Not. Armchair warriors are a dime a dozen. Let me know when you grow out of muppet stage.

 

Well I can't speak for everyone... but I'm serious as a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing heart attack when I talk about it. And the politically-correct, double standard paradigm that exists in America where it's acceptable to be discriminatory, racist and prejudice towards whites (especially white males) but it's COMPLETELY unacceptable for a white male to act that exact same way to anyone of any other race..... is really starting to push the envelope and (*)(*)(*)(*) a lot of people off.

 

And you can give us many examples, right?

 

Absolutely.

Jay Z wears a 5%er chain courtside during a game as an owner in the NBA. Nothing happens.
Donald Sterling makes a racist comment in private that's recorded and then released to the public. Sterling gets fined millions of dollars, banned from the NBA for life and is forced to sell his team.

Barack Obama's senior financial advisor Robert Reich stated that he didn't want the jobs or money from the stimulus package to go to "white male construction workers". He wasn't punished or anything of the like. If this same comment were made about blacks or Hispanics the man would have been ostracized from Washington for the rest of his career. But it's okay to be racist towards whitey.

Sotomayor stated "I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life." If a white male going for the same position had said "I would hope that a wise White male with the richness of his experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a latina woman who hasn't lived that life." would have NEVER been allowed to set foot in another government office in Washington DC, much less be confirmed to the Supreme Court.

We have institutional racism in this country that is propagated by the government in the form of Affirmative Action.

We have government grants and loans that you do not qualify for if you have the wrong color (meaning white) skin and/or a penis.

We're allowed to say redneck, whitey, hick, trailer trash and cracker on television used specifically as disparaging terms against white people, but (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*), bluegum, porchmonkey and spearchucker are banned completely from television (except for premium channels).

Where is the WET (White Entertainment Television) channel? Where is the NAAWP (National Association for the Advancement of White People)? They don't exist because they would be deemed racist, discriminatory and attacked every single day in every forum across the country.

As a specific and personal example, my cousin was going for a job at the company I work for. I work in the HR department and was assisting the person doing the hiring. My cousin was one of 50 who got past the first cut and were informed. 32 people responded back and they were all ranked in order after their first short meeting with a representative of the company. It's not technically considered an interview.

Unfortunately, while there is no quota system in America for government contractors on how many minorities you must hire... there IS a requirement that you must be able to prove (by showing your plan) that you have demonstrated a good faith effort in recruiting and hiring minorities. Many government contractors (the company I was working for included) require a certain number of interviews be provided to minority candidates in each section of the hiring process.

We had 20 interviews available. Because of affirmative action and the goals set by the company, 5 of those interviews had to be reserved for minority candidates. My cousin was ranked #18 on the list of 32 available. Unfortunately for him... all of the top 24 candidates out of 32 were white like he was. Numbers 16-24 were cut from the list because they were not the correct race. 5 of numbers 25-32 were placed in the 16-20 slots for the last interviews. Even though my cousin (and those other white guys) were more highly qualified than the minority candidates, they were discriminated against because they had the wrong color skin. Discrimination which is COMPLETELY acceptable and legal in the eyes of the American government.

 

LOL... You don't seem to understand the use of symbolic speech regarding your behavior here on the forum. Nevermind.

 

This thread is hilarious because it brought out the right wing Aryan warriors who cry and cry about how oppressed they are, and how EVIL and AWFUL those black and brown people are.

I suspect that's what the OP wanted though, and he succeeded.

 

Typical Pavlovian response.

 

LoL Hope you're not talking about me. I've made my stance on issues such as this one undeniably clear.

 

Yawn...boring and trite...what else you got?

 

Your rant, no matter how misguided it may be (and it was), was the exact laughable "victim hood" the OP was talking about, which is why his thread succeeded. He got the right wingers to come out of the woodwork and cry about how oppressed the white man is by those EVIL black and brown people, and it worked.

 

Are you refuting anything I said? Are you saying those things aren't true?

Or are you just using the typical liberal "racist" and "bigot" name-calling tactic?

 

Can you give me 5 examples of prejudice and racism towards white men?

 

Uh Jay Z isn't an NBA owner and no one has yet shown what that chain he is wearing represents.

What did you want to happen, an usher ask him to remove it.

The NBA is being a hypocrite on this issue for the simple fact they knew he was a racist when he bought the team.

Could it be because white construction companies get probably 95% of the contracts that are out there.

I guess it doesn't have anything with the history of America when it comes to white males and the Justice System.

...........and yet white women are the biggest beneficiaries of the program which means white males benefit from it also.

...........can you tell us some of these grants that you do not qualify for and minorities do.

I guess it wouldn't have anything to do with America's racist past when it comes to using those terms. Can you show us a few clips of young white kids being called rednecks as they are trying to go to school. Can you show us a few clips of white men and women being called hicks as they are trying to register to vote.

CBS, NBC, ABC, USA, FOX, TNT, TBS, etc.

http://naawp.org.tripod.com/, http://topconservativenews.com/

See above.

Hmmmm, now how many times have you seen men like your cousin hired just because of the Good Ole Boy Network. How many black qualified applicants have you seen passed over and the job given to someone white who was less qualified. I am willing to bet the farm there are many more stories like those than the one you presented.

 

When Jay Z wore the 5 Percenter medal courtside, he WAS an owner.

And it's not in debate what the chain he was wearing represents.

The same thing should have happened to Jay Z that happened to Silver or the same thing should have happened to Silver that happened to Jay Z. Not use a double standard that they clearly used.

Sources? Not that it matters. Basically what you're saying is that it's acceptable to be racist to whitey because other whitey's are successful.

By your logic white people should get a discriminatory advantage against black people when going out for basketball and football teams in both college and professional because the VAST majority of basketball and football players are black... right?

So it's okay to be racist towards whites because of the history of the justice system?

So do black men and black women. Everybody EXCEPT for white males. If a black man is married to a white woman he gets DOUBLE the intended benefit according to your logic.

Let's say we denied all black men any benefits like this. But we gave it to all white men, white women and black women. But because they're black men, they're not allowed to get those benefits. You'd be perfectly fine with that right? I think not. You'd be one of the first to cry about racism.

So again... it's acceptable to be racist/sexist towards white men but not towards blacks.

I've already done this for you several times... and I"ll do it again if I need to... but your argument will be the same argument you've used several times already in this last post. That it's acceptable to be racist towards white people because their ancestors got an unfair advantage years and years and years ago.

This is EXACTLY the double standard that I was referring to.

So again... it's okay to be racist towards whitey because white people in America's past were racist.

[video=youtube;8l_xbUJuO4c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l_xbUJuO4c[/video]

Those are not white channels. They are not marketed SOLELY to white people. They are not advertised with nothing but white people in the commercials. They are not EXPLICITLY stated to be for a white viewing audience. Don't try that (*)(*)(*)(*). There's not a white channel out there and you know it. Your dishonesty is very telling.

Really guy? A tripod website? Get the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of here. And there are plenty of black conservatives out there.

Uhhh that's ILLEGAL in this country. Unlike the institutionalized discrimination against white people in this country.

Again... you don't argue that racism isn't occurring against whites. You are arguing that it's OKAY that racism is going on against whites.

You are exhibiting the PERFECT example of the type of double-standard that makes me sick and is going to end up causing some serious problems in this country. Like I said, people like you think it's okay to be racist towards white people. You keep thinking that, because when it turns around again, white people get fed up with the double standard bull(*)(*)(*)(*) and the white people start acting like the group in power that they actually are, nobody is going to give a (*)(*)(*)(*) when you start crying about racism towards blacks then. They're going to tell you the same thing you're telling us... that you deserve it.

 

When was this picture taken?

Sure it is, if they are 5%ers why is there a 7 on the medallion?

Well there is a big difference in owning a team and owning 5% of the team. Also wearing a medallion is a helluva lot different than making racist comments and being known as a racist slum lord.

Wow, can you re-post where I said anything like that.

They did until around 1964, but that was probably before your time. Funny how a league that is majority black only has one black owner. Last time I checked there was plenty of white, Hispanic and foreign players in the league. Hell just look at the make up of San Antonio.

It shouldn't be okay to be racist towards anyone.

When it comes to gov't contracts what % of those contracts are given to minority contractors?

When it comes to employment what % does AA account for?

When it comes to college enrollment what % does AA account for?

By all means please do it again.

Refer back.

Its not acceptable to be racist against anyone.

Who owns them?

Have you ever watched BET?

Do you realize BET is not even owned by anyone black. So you are saying no one white watches BET. Are white actors and white actresses allowed to be on shows, movies and commericals that are being aired on that station?

You said there was no such thing and I showed you otherwise. I know there are plenty black conservatives out there, house ne............nevermind.

It maybe illegal, but it doesn't change the fact that it happens everyday.

I am arguing no such thing. You are the one that is trying to make me believe that racism against white males is running rampant in this country and that's total bs.

We already have serious problems in this country and have had serious problems in this country and racism against white males is damn sure not one of them.

You can say any damn thing you want, doesn't make it true.

See racist fools have never gave a damn about black folks crying about racism. This racism against white males is the biggest crock of (*)(*)(*)(*) in the country and anyone with alittle bit of sense is not buying it.

I can remember back during the civil rights movement, racist whites in the south were complaining about their rights being infringed upon because folks from outside the south were trying to stop segregation and racism in the south. Your argument about racism against white males is nothing but that same bs.

 

Is this some kind of a joke?

http://www.allahsnation.net/

That's their website. Notice the emblem in the upper lefthand corner.

And that's not the only time Jay Z has been seen wearing the medallion. Furthermore, why would he even need to wear a medallion, his lyrics have been littered with racism since the 90's. Why is he allowed to make racist comments and Silver was not?

No, there's not a difference. They were both owners. The % that they own is irrelevant. They both had to sign the same contracts. And so you'd be cool with an owner wearing a KKK medallion around his neck and not getting ANY repercussions but if Michael Jordan came out and made a racist comment towards white people in private he gets fined $2.5M, sell his team and be banned from the NBA for life? I doubt that.

Sure. Your justification for why the senior financial advisor EXPLICITLY pointed out a race that he didn't want the money or jobs going to (REGARDLESS of their financial position or anything else other than their race) from the stimulus package was that "like 95% of the construction jobs go to white people".

So basically what you said is that because these other white people are successful and performing well in their jobs and construction contractors the other white people who DO need financial assistance and aren't as successful as the others should get discriminated against because of the color of their skin and the fact that other white people were doing well. If that's an incorrect assessment of your point, then please explain yourself better.

In the NBA league office, 35.7 percent of all professional employees are people of color and 41.1 percent are women. The League Office also had 44 women serving as vice presidents in the 2012-2013 season.
“When David Stern steps down as NBA Commissioner in 2014, among the legacies he will have created is an era in professional sport when leagues and teams hired the best people possible. He embraced the moral imperative for diversity while helping to show the other leagues that diversity is also a business imperative. The evidence for the NBA’s continued commitment to racial equality is seen in the strong grades in the League Office and in many key areas on the team level. Nearly 47 percent of all head coaches were coaches of color, the second highest percentage in NBA history. The NBA set a new record for assistant coaches of color at 45.6 percent. The percentage of people of color who held team professional administration positions increased by 3.1 percentage points to 27.6 percent, the highest percentage since the 2008-09 season. However, there were notable declines for women at the team level in senior and professional administrative roles with drops of 4.3 and 4 percent, respectively.”

African-Americans comprised 76.3 percent of all NBA players. Eighty-one percent of players were players of color.
• African-American head coaches represented 43.3 percent of all NBA head coaches, the second highest percentage in NBA history.

In the NBA league office, 35.7 percent of all professional employees are people of color and 41.1 percent are women. The League Office also had 44 women serving as vice presidents in the 2012-2013 season.

Now remember... black people only represent 14% of the total population. But they are FAR overrepresented in the NBA league offices, administration and team offices. Not to mention they're WAYYYYY overrepresented in regards to the players. But I'm sure this is all perfectly fine with you right?

Then you need to reexamine your position. And you need to stop making (*)(*)(*)(*) up as you go along.

So denying SOME white people contracts because of the color of their skin and because other white people HAVE gotten contracts is okay? How the (*)(*)(*)(*) do you not understand that's racist?

ONE person denied a job based upon government instituted racism is too many. Why is it acceptable to deny ANY white person his right to a job because he has the wrong color of skin? How the (*)(*)(*)(*) do you not understand that's racist?

ONE person denied an education based upon government instituted racism is too many. Why is it acceptable to deny ANY white person him the ability to get an education at a certain school because he has the wrong color of skin? How the (*)(*)(*)(*) do you not understand that's racist?

http://www.collegescholarships.org/grants/minority.htm

SBA’s 8(a) Business Development program can help qualifying minority-owned firms develop and grow their businesses through one-to-one counseling, training workshops, and management and technical guidance. The program also provides access to government contracting opportunities, allowing these businesses to become solid competitors in the federal marketplace.

http://www.mbda.gov/main/find-grant-and-loan-info

The Socially Disadvantaged Farmer and Rancher program area coordinates with USDA agencies to enhance access to USDA programs by minority farmers, ranchers and forest landowners. In addition, this program area administers the Outreach and Technical Assistance for Socially Disadvantaged Farmers and Ranchers (OASDFR) Competitive Grants Program (also known as the 2501 Program) which was transferred from USDA’s National Institute of Food and Agriculture.

http://www.fsa.usda.gov/FSA/webapp?area=home&subject=fmlp&topic=sdl

I can give you more if you'd like.

Take your own advice.

I hear you say that, but then you seem to make justifications for racist policy... I mean as long as it's not racist towards minorities that is.

BET was created by Robert L Johnson. A Black man... founded specifically for a black audience. He then sold out to Viacom. But the last time I checked he owned the controlling interest (52%) of the company.

Unfortunately yes because my grandma likes Tyler Perry. Have you? Nearly every commercial there is full exclusively of black people. Every 1 in 10 commercials or so you'll see a token white person... usually as the dumbass who needs to be informed of what to buy or the evil cracker holding down the black man until the black man goes to the computer training course and gets out from under his thumb.

Do you realize BET is not even owned by anyone black. So you are saying no one white watches BET. Are white actors and white actresses allowed to be on shows, movies and commericals that are being aired on that station?

This is quoted directly from BET network Mission Statement:

If you even remotely think a tripod webpage (something which a 4 year old can set up) is even remotely comparable to the NAACP you're even more dishonest than I previously thought.

http://www.nbra.info/
There are plenty of black conservatives.

Yeah but if it happens to a black guy he can sue for illegal discrimination. If it happens to a white guy he has to bend over and take it because the color of his skin is wrong. How the (*)(*)(*)(*) do you not understand that's racist?

You have tacitly admitted that racism against whites occurs in this country. As I have pointed out, you just argue that it's okay for it to happen.

 

What really makes that funny is that they will claim in the next breath that the white race is superior.

How can your "race" be superior when you are helpless and constantly at the mercy of everyone else? Even when you are a majority?

It just seems a little contradictory. You can't be "strong" and a victim at the same time. If the white race really needs that much help to survive, maybe it was inevitable that it would fade away.

 

In other words, your ideology can only thrive when there is no competition. It is otherwise unable to compete.

 

I've been able to solo them on here for years. Racists always have predictable arguments that have been debunked many times. Their arguments only work with other racists.

 

You hit the nail on the head here. But you can't expect consistency from white nationalists. Their arguments are all over the place.

 

It's more politically incorrect to display bigotry toward minorities than it is toward whites (or other majority or "privileged" demographics such as Christians vs Muslims, men vs. women, straights vs gays, etc).

Saying that "well these groups have historically been persecuted more" doesn't cut it - it's a "two wrongs make a right" psychology.

 

"Anti-racists" (anti-Whites) generally exhibit this kind of chutzpadic hypocrisy.

 

That is another thing that is predictable about racists...they desperately want to get people to equate anti-racist with "anti-white". They do not understand that there is a difference between race and ideology.

This type of propaganda might have worked in a world before the internet. But now...not so much. Racist ideology cannot withstand scrutiny. That is what makes it a weak ideology.