Sheriff called parking spot shooting legal under ‘stand your ground’ laws. Prosecutors disagreed.

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  1. Steve N

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    What cursing? Where?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    well, that's ****ed up.

    we are adults. we don't shove just cause mean words are being used.

    had he not shoved, he would be alive today.

    learn to use your words.
     
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    Do you think these savages give a **** if what they do is legal? Their rap sheets prove it.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    in a mature society men dont shove other men to the ground just because mean words are being used.

    the victim could have hit his head and been killed.

    learn to use your words, we are not animals
     
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    I would want to hear from the defendent, but without any more detail, I would have to vote self defense if on a jury if the man said he feared for his life, there was zero reason for that violence, he caused the man to enter fight of flight mode, and that cost him his life - stupid - had he not behaved in such a violent manner, he woudl still be alive today
     
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    Agreed but it was far more than just a shove, it was a knock down. Didn't some guy just get charged with a murder after he "shoved" someone to the ground? If the guy hadn't killed him he should be in a prison.
     
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    I am 100% against the shooting, i think it was unjustified.

    I am also 100% against the shove, it was unneccessary, immature and could have seriously hurt the man.
     
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    Based on what? He could have run. He could have pulled the gun and placed him under citizens arrest for assault.

    With the combination of stand your ground and more people carrying, it's going to be a free-for-all. Any hot head with a gun can claim he was afraid for his life.
     
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    You go up to your girlfriend/wife .... Take her by the arm and walk away .
     
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    I have no idea if either of these men have rap sheets, I can only go by the video
     
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    Sorry, I am not buying this bullshit. If you walk out of a store and a man is at your car yelling and cursing at your wife with the kids in the car you automatically go into defensive mode. You know damn well you are not going to walk up to him and say, "Excuse me sir, what seems to be the problem here."
     
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    these guys act like anyone can say "i feared for my life" and the shooting becomes justified.

    no, your fear must be reasonable to justify deadly force
     
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    real men have control of their emotions and use their words.

    had this guy been more mature, he would still be alive today.

    shoving someone to the ground can set off a string of events that leads to a tragedy.
     
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    I fear for my life whenever I'm surrounded by trumpers. So I guess I should just start shooting, right?
     
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    Men go on the defensive when they're shoved to the ground, too. We don't know what was being said and we don't know the guy's state of mind after he was pushed. Personally, I would not have engaged in a debate with that woman over a parking space, I've had too many neighbors who were huge pains in the ass over trivial things like that. I would not have pushed the guy down like that if I saw someone having an argument with my wife, and I probably would not have shot that guy unless he said something after pushing me that made me feel threatened.
     
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    There's no gaurantee of that.
     
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    pretty much.

    i fear for my life when i see someone carrying a gun.

    i guess i should just start shooting?
     
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    guess what? when you are going to use deadly force you better be able to justify it.

    your fear of death must be a reasonable one.
     
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    Verbally attack or tell the woman she's wrong in what she did? We all know busy bodies like that.
     
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    Anyone carrying a gun must be dangerous. Sounds reasonable to me.
     
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    Perhaps he didn't believe it was over.
     
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    you run up and talk first, find out what is going on, there was no reason to start with violence, that can get you killed

    you don't want people to verbally hassle ya for parking in a handicap spot, don't park in a handicap spot if your not handicapped
     
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    depends on where you live I guess...where I live words can be cause for provoking physical retaliation and police are not required to lay charges if they believe the assault was provoked...

    I've been told this by my buddy an ex cop and I've seen it in action...a friend I was having coffee with in a restaurant was repeatedly insulted by a patron one table away, eventually my friend had enough and asked the man to step outside, they went out and he took out a few of his teeth...the other guy called the police and wanted to press assault charges for the loss of his teeth...there were enough witnesses to corroborate events and the police refused, they told the man to get a lawyer and take it to civil court to sue for damages...of coarse there is limit to the amount of force allowed, killing/shooting someone would be going to far...
     
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    luckily we have a video.

    thank God for that video.

    the video, will convict him.
     
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    I see this case a bit like the Zimmerman case. Drejka like Zimmerman is the one who started the dominoes falling. Drejka went over to McGlockton's girlfriend to confront her about the fact that McGlockton parked the car in a handicapped spot. I think most will agree that parking in a hamdicapped spot is not a Politically Correct thing to do. Drejka should have called the police give the vehicle tag to them and declared himself Hero of the Universe and the Grand Poom Pah Defender of Cripples.

    McGlockton did not need to push Drejka down but Drejka's life was not in danger but his pride was obviously hurt since he fell on it. Drejka responded with deadly force against someone who was retreating.

    I understand that Drejka was charged with or at least investigated for improper use of firearms.
     
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