She's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!!! Condi Rides Again

Condi's safe because she knew her place.

Both Powell and Rice were window dressing because W didn't listen to what either one of them had to say. He listened to Uncle Dick and Rumsfeld during his first term then he had a falling out with Cheney and eventually Rumsfeld left.

I honestly believe that part of the reason that Powell has been so vocal in his support of President Obama is that he's sticking it to W and the rest of the Republicans who used him.

 

While I do like Condi and it is my understanding that she has stated she is not interested in running as a candidate. I will point out one problem with her running for either President or VP, she has no experience and has never held a major elected position so there is no voting trackrecord to look at to see her stand on the issues. One of the complaints about President Obama was that he had little experience but now some wants to ignore the facts that Condi has even less experience. If she is really interested in running for high office I would prefer she ran for a State office or even a Federal position first so that we have a better idea of her point of view. I would also remind the faithful that she was The insider in the Bush administration meaning she will have that connected shadow to overcome, I doubt it would be possible until she becomes a Politcian in her own right first.

 

Your very first words were that she was duped, a women with multiple degrees and a trained concert level musician etc. was duped for years on end. This indicates that you clearly think that she was incapable of making her own rational decisions probably because you have a very low opinion of the intelligence of black people.

 

Well according to the article she has been making efforts to stay in the political game, whatever that means. I assume she has staff doing small surveys and feeling out donors presumably. She is very bright articulate and very aware of what is going on around her. There are some issues I disagree with her on but then again that is true of any candidate. I think mostly the reason I like her is that she seems to rely less on emotion and more on rationality than many of the pols I see today who are constantly trying to tug at your heart strings. She is kind of wonkish but I actually prefer that in candidates over soaring rhetorical nonsense like you constantly get from Obama. That last President we had that was able to pull of the soaring rhetoric without looking like a smooze sp? was Reagan.

I really really hope that she does get into the game full swing because it would be nice to have her as an option even if I do end up going with someone else. Just so long as we don't end up with another Barnum three ring circus act like last time around.

 

I hope she does run for office somewhere along the line, but she is not ready for either of the executive banch jobs imo, Yet.

 

I do not labour under the delusion that accomplished amateur pianists must be immune to political deception, that's true.

To the extent that all humans are fallible and she was one of many who bought the phony intel, she was in error. As the record shows, the pretexts that she and others apparently swalloed were false.

No, that's your racist obsession and inference. As my posts amply attest, I never suggested race was a factor. I noted that others were simiarly deceived, without regard to their races.

Your issue with race is moot anyway, because the GOP is not about to nominate a pro-choice American, regardless of race, gender, or Iraq fiasco complicity.


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The last POTUS who had never previously sough any elective office whatsoever was Dwight Eisenhower, a national hero with an impressive resumé in an executive role.

I never served with Dwight Eisenhower. I never knew Dwight Eisenhower. Dwight Eisenhower was not a friend of mine. Condoleezza Rice is no Dwight Eisenhower.

 

Once again your very first assumption about her was that she was duped. Clearly you think that a woman with multiple college degrees and a very high IQ is gullible because she is black. No normal person would assume that a smart woman like her was gullible but because she is black you just assume that she wasn't smart enough to figure out anything on her on and that apparently she need other people to lead her around on a leash.

The only people that have disparaged her because of her race, sex or her alleged sexual orientation have in fact been people like you. Read the thread, it was liberals like you that kept insisting that she couldn't win because of her ethnicity or her sex. You completely ignore all the polling that the other posters have put up showing extremely strong support for her ESPECIALLY among the base, the very same people who you keep insisting that are to racist and bigoted to ever elect a black woman to high office.

You have been proven over and over again to be nothing more than a liar. Read the polls posted on here or are you going to argue that all those polls were just made up and don't count? Your obsession with her race is very telling about the kind of person that you are. You seem to focus almost entirely on her race and gender instead of her accomplishments. You seem to make bigoted stereotypes about certain people despite oodles of data that shows the contrary and yet you continue to be willfully ignorant of it and just choose to ignore it.

 

No, I mentioned her being duped by the fraudulent intel that precipitated the Iraq fiasco as one insurmountable obstacle to her ever becoming president, a comment in accordance with a previous post. Why would you fantasize that was my "very first assumption" as if I were not thoroughly conversant with her non-experience in elective office and her experience in academia?

Clearly, your unwarranted aspersion betrays your obsession with race. I never even opined whether she is "qualified," but the reality is that most folks, regardless of gender or race, are not.

Now, stop your inane ranting and baseless accusations. You're embarrassing yourself.

Your fixation on Ms Rice's race is rendered moot by the reality that I explained to you: A woman with no record in elective office, who has expressed no interest in attaining elective office, and who is on record as supporting a woman's freedom of choice is not going to be the nominee of the present GOP.

Now don't get yourself in a tizzy. You cannot quote any racist remark because I never made one, and you know it.

 

What lies did she tell the 9/11 commission?

 

I am simply doing exactly what you do. I am making assumptions about you just like you make assumptions about people that oppose Obama. How is that any different? You clearly think that a black woman is incapable of independent thought even if she has multiple degrees just like you think that people would never vote for her because she is black, lesbian or a woman. Never mind that all the polls that have been put on this thread have shown her to have very high favorability ratings even beating out the likes of Paul and Ryan. You said conservatives would never vote for her and yet you have been proven to be a liar over and over again.

You are the one that is an embarrassment as your very first posts focused on race. Sound familiar?

"She was shamelessly used by degenerates Cheney and Rumsfeld in contriving their Iraq fiasco, and now the GOP's Angry White Guys needs to exploit her gender and race."

The very first things you focus on were her being black and a woman.

 

Well now, seeing as how you guys are supposedly Black folks' political bed fellows, what you YOU until 2008?

And he didn't get to the Oval Office with just your votes.

So, you can retire your B.S. narrative.

Or look forward to having someone remind you of its "pulchritude"* whenever you post it.


*-Yes, I looked it up.

 

I don't think she's got the stomach for the long, degrading campaign.

 

Condi would be a wonderful candidate. She'd also be the Democrat's worst nightmare. She's the most qualified Republican to run as far as experience and has a great and wonderful temperament. I also know that she would honor the U.S. Constitution and get us back to where we need to be on that count. I'm sure there are many people trying to draft her.

And imagine....a president who is also a talented concert pianist. Cool.

 

And speaks Russian.

 

I think you'd see the Tea Party embrace her as a candidate....if that's what you're insinuating.

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Even cooler. Much more impressive than a Hillary would be.

 

Nope...I would hope the "Actual" GOP would get behind her and toss TP under the bus.

 

I am A-okay with Condi as a potential candidate. She's an intelligent woman. I'm sure that her being a Republican means I disagree with her politics, but at least she's not dumb like Sarah Palin or a lunatic like Michelle Bachman.

 

Sarah is not dumb. She is quite capable as is Condi and Michelle. However, right or wrong, Condi is not electable as a conservative due to the rumors of her being a homosexual. I'm sure it irks some that Sarah and Michelle B.. are both heterosexuals, and are both attractive conservatives.

If Condi is nominated, I would certainly vote for her, but it won't happen.

 

Condi is a higher, different league. She's a university professor. She's very smart.

No offense to Sarah Palin but if Condi had been on John McCain's ticket he would have won.

[video=youtube;fcZ_VDScvj0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcZ_VDScvj0[/video]


Watch this video from 7:30 about gaffs on foreign policy by republican candidates Michelle Bachmann and Herman Cain.

[video=youtube;Apkwj4JguZg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apkwj4JguZg[/video]

This from Condi's own auto-biography.


She was once engaged to be married to Rick Upchurch, another football player.

For movie stars, she likes Denzel Washington.

So clearly she likes the guys.

Why should she have to spend her time denying rumors put about by anti-gay bigots? She has more important things to do.

 

Whether Condi is homosexual or not, or a bi-sexual like Hillary, the MSM would have used the rumors against her then and in the future.

McCain was put in to lose, and Condi would not have saved him.

The country has never wanted an "egghead" President. Case in point, A. Stevenson. The country prefers someone who is of above average intelligence, personable, open and honest, and attractive. The fact that dimocrats and the MSM will forego some of that is typical however.

 

Rumours tell you more about the character of the rumour-mongers and the character of campaigns for the candidates they shill for.

Who is it you are shilling for in 2016 again, just so we all know to give that rumour-mongering creep a wide-steer?

"put in". By? Secretive conspiratorial figures? Nothing to do with republican voters as who got the GOP nomination?

So you really don't know anything about republican primary campaigns at all do you?

McCain-Rice would have been elected by a landslide and saved the country from some of the Obama mistakes too.

Well every potential candidate of above average intelligence would rather support an egghead to run for president than run themselves because eggheads actually know how to run the country.

So the candidates who run against eggheads are either honest but so stupid as to not know what a mess they'd make of it or they know they won't be as competent as the egghead but tell lies, spread rumours etc to get elected - in other words are dishonest creeps.

 

there is nothing that the GOP can do to undo the damage they have done to themselves as a party.

forget the Bush years , there are not enough people who want another war even in the GOP…

then you have the out right denial of any congressional vote to get anything passed…

what ever you want to say about the intellect of the average GOP fanatic…they are not that stupid that they don't see the harm done to them by this revengeful congress.

The GOP is viewed world wide as mean …America needs to do a lot of work at getting back it's hero status as a nation…

Even in British shows like doctor who there are subtleties aimed at America…
it's becoming part of the world view that America has made a total mess of everything economic…and the world does not view Obama as the culprit…

As for the economy it's starting to boom south of the border…

Canada watches this with a microscope…and the news reports each blip…and the trend is that America is getting it's economic engines a rolling..

no one wants to disrupt that with GOP Banking Law ineptness and spending like drunken sailors on wars….

you are in recovery from GOP madness,, and you want to go back to that….

 

Nothing subtle about how one very well educated super-human can save the world.

[video=youtube;w3ZeW95ypbc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3ZeW95ypbc[/video]

 

I really don't have a big problem with Condi. I just don't have the winning faith you do about her. If she is nominated, I will support her hard.

By the way, please don't talk to your betters requiring knowledge about primaries. Some of what I say is opinion for sure, but I have many, many years of watching and studying primaries and elections.