Shills??? MOD ALERT

Your OP was multi-layered. I believe I have provided sufficient information to satisfy a part of the OP.

As to 'proving the existence of shills at this particular forum', eh.

 

Most of the shills are actually from the tin foil brigade. The Organization needs people to believe in bull (*)(*)(*)(*) conspiracy theories when the RaHoWa starts.

 

No doubt that there are plenty of disinformation spreading groups and individuals.

So, you believe in this 'racial holy war' concept?

 

OKC was an opening skirmish.

 

Wouldn't Ruby Ridge and Waco be considered the start of that, then? Or are you only considering retaliation?

 

OKC was retalliation for the execution of a major leader of the Elohim City scum on the same day. That was why there were no ATF agents in the building when it was hit. They were out keeping an eye on John Trochmann and the Elohim City wankers.

 

Can you source this, please?

 

I second that.

 

Two of the links you cited to support the existence of shills explicitly stated that gov't employees identified themselves as such on the web and that it was illegal for the gov't to disseminate domestic disinfo/propaganda. Hence, your info seems to disprove the existence of alleged 9 11 shills

 

There areother links here to follow if you do not want to just accept one source.

http://www.unitedstatesaction.com/early_warning_usa.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy McVeigh

http://reconstitution.us/rcnew/?p=5194

 

You see now why I don't even try and source reports of shilling. It never seems to quite be enough does it?

Hence my attempt at establishing the grounds of what would be accpetable evidence in my gravity analogy.

Look at Reedak and the Chinese military hacking story. No matter the source, there is a way to call into question the credibility of the story or source.

 

You're shifting goalposts, here. You said 'government shills'. I provided that information.

 

I thinks its pretty questionable if a state department worker who goes onto a foreign website and identifies himself as an employee of the state department constitutes what the appellation 'shill' is used to denote on this forum and within the OP. Besides, another link you provided explicitly stated that a gov't agent can not covertly disseminate disinfor/propaganda in domestic media.

 

The more likely reason being you don't have any evidence.

 

How do you define 'shill'?

 

Nope, just like if we debate Sibel Edmonds you will find a way to call into question testifying under oath, or the pattern of intelligence officials who have stumbled across Turkey in their counter nuclear proliferation assignments, that end up having their careers ended.

No matter what the piece of evidence there is, by itself there is plausible deniability. It is the mosaic of pieces of information that make your claims to plausible denaibilty suspect at best. Either you don't want to see it, or intentionally ignore the whole of the picture.

 

That would be my guess as well. Or he is a shill for some group with goals hostile to those of the government. Having no plausible counter claim or alternative explanation is usually a good clue.

 

Sibel Edmonds posts on this forum?

 

I'm sorry, pimptight, but when I read your information it's like a mirror of how I feel about truthers. No matter what the myriad of evidence we have stating that 9/11 was not an inside job, truthers never think it's enough. They don't believe it, they handwave away, or they disregard it all together.

 

What mosaic of pieces of information make my ALLEGED claims of plausible deniability suspect or are you just making more assumptions? BTW, this thread is about 'shills', not Sibel Edwards or Turkey so I really don't know what you are talking about or why you even brought those things up.

 

I would define 'shill' for the purposes of this thread as an agent of the gov't who covertly engages in debate on this forum and other domestic sites like it for the purpose of swaying the discourse and discussion here. Specifically, I wanted this thread to address the oft repeated claims by members of this forum that there is a team of shills here who are advocating propaganda/ disinformation.

 

Prepaid motivation would be another possibility.

 

Shills show themselves to be shills by saying lame things with an authoritative patronizing attitude. Check out the discussion on this thread.
http://www.politicalforum.com/9-11/290910-do-you-trust-us-government-9.html

 

Shills for disinformationist organizations bring no counter-theories that stand up to scientific inqury and just shriek that anybody who opposes them is being paid to do so. So far, i have been called a shill by four disinfo operatives on this page.

 

Wow, the evidence to prove that certain people are shills is certainly going down. Now you can just tell by random conversation, huh? Let's disregard the fact that "truthers" here are constantly degrading the other members here as well.