Should A Woman Be Able To Abort Her Unwanted Fetus?

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by wunderbar, Jan 31, 2012.

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SHOULD A WOMAN BE ABLE TO ABORT HER UNWANTED FETUS?

  1. YES

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  2. NO

    30.8%
  3. UNSURE

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  1. wunderbar

    wunderbar Banned

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    i don't understand why do some people believe abortion is BAD?

    science, law and the bible supports abortion...so i don't get it, why they don't?


    THE BIBLE:
    the bible supported abortion, that was done by a priest, in god's name, in his holly temple!
    the 1984 NIV footnote of numbers 5:11-31 explained what "to thy thigh to rot, they belly to swell" meant: numbers 5:21 "or causes you to have a miscarrying womb and barrenness" to CAUSE a miscarrying womb IS an abortion.


    'Ephraim, as I saw Tyre, is planted in a pleasant place; but Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer." Give them, O LORD -- what wilt Thou give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts...Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit; yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.'

    HOSEA 9-16

    the judeo-christian god is a myth and historical evidence proves it.
    3.3.3 ATHEISM: A HISTORY OF GOD (Part 1)

    http://www.evilbible.com/god
    http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/abortion.html


    THIS IS THE LAW:
    ABORTION IS A CIVIL AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT SUPPORTED BY THE RIGHTS TO PRIVACY, THE EQUAL PROTECTION CLAUSE OF THE 14TH AMENDMENT, AND THE 13TH AMENDMENT.

    NO HUMAN ( that means the FETUS, too) has a right to life or any due process rights by the 14th amendment to use another human's body or body parts AGAINST their will, civil and constitutional rights: that's why you are not forced to donate your kidney---the human fetus is no exception; this is supported by the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment AND 13th amendment, which makes reproductive slavery unconstitutional.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Protection_Clause

    "Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. "

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

    this makes viability unconstitutional because pregnancy is not a crime.

    consensual sex=/= a legal, binding contract to an unwanted fetus to live; and abortion is not murder, the unlawful killing with intent.



    THIS IS SCIENCE:
    FETUS IS NOT A BABY (GOOGLE THE HUMAN DEVELOPMENT CHART), but a parasite because the classification of the biological relationship that is based on the behavior one organism (fetus) and how it relates to the woman's body.

    as a zygote, it invaded the woman's uterus using its TROPHOBLAST cells, hijacked her immune system by using NEUROKININ B and HCG--- so her body doesn't kill it, steals her nutrients to survive, and causes her harm or potential death.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trophoblast

    "The placenta... it uses several mechanisms:
    It secretes Neurokinin B containing phosphocholine molecules. This is the same mechanism used by parasitic nematodes to avoid detection by the immune system of their host.[2]"
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immune_tolerance_in_pregnancy

    " Due to its highly-negative charge, hCG may repel the immune cells of the mother, protecting the fetus during the first trimester. It has also been hypothesized that hCG may be a placental link for the development of local maternal immunotolerance."
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_chorionic_gonadotropin

    "It is also possible for a symbiotic relationship to exist between two organisms of the same species."
    http://www.answers.com/topic/symbiosis -- Gale's Science of Everyday Things.

    just like a parasitic twin --- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitic_twin

    "an animal or plant that lives in or on another (the host) from which it obtains nourishment. The host does not benefit from the association and is often harmed by it"
    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/parasite

    pregnancy CAUSES HARM: http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm


    if a man can abort his tapeworm at anytime-- so should a woman abort her unwanted parasitic fetus, too.
     
  2. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Its great that you have backed up your arguments with sources. Well done, and I voted 'yes'.
     
  3. wunderbar

    wunderbar Banned

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    LOL, is that reason why i'm on you guys' anti-spam control list?

    i thought it was an honest question, especially all the anti-choice laws " backed by the bible" in the US.

    i guess i should repent to JEBUS for making this thread-- before you guys blocked me.
     
  4. prometeus

    prometeus Banned

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    Who blocked you and where?
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    I have no idea what you are talking about.
     
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    ^This is politics, not science. Nothing invaded or hijacked anything. She created the zygote, herself. And if the purpose of a zygote was to "steal nutrients" and cause "harm or potential death," then evolution would have eliminated it by now. But it has not done so because a zygote is a mandatory stage in the propagation of the species. Without it, extinction occurs at the end of the current generation.

    You are using simple amoral philosophy to rationalize the dehumanization process. This same tactic has been used throughout history to justify slavery, the Holocaust, and genocide. It can be used to dehumanize anything. Including you. Do you realize that?

    If you'd like, I can explain how your life is just as meaningless why there is no logical argument against killing you.
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    I am not sure, this is one issue I waiver a bit on.
     
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    So now babies are equivalant to tapeworms?
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    By definition, yes.
     
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    If the fetus is unwanted and the mommy wishes to abort, then the fetus should have the right to abort the mommy too
     
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    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Okay. The fetus is free to remove itself from physical attachment to the woman, thus aborting the woman. No one has any trouble with that.
     
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    diamond lil Well-Known Member

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    What an incredibly stupid suggestion.

    What about those who are pro life giving some sensible, cogent reasons as to why giving women access to safe, legal abortions is a bad thing for society?
     
  13. prometeus

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    Is it bad for society? How?
     
  14. diamond lil

    diamond lil Well-Known Member

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    I can't think of any reason at all, but I was actually replying to this:


    But this was posted first:


    That would be a brilliant solution.
     
  15. prometeus

    prometeus Banned

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    I misread it then, my apologies.
     

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