Should Blacks be paid "reparations" today because of slavery in the United States?

So only black prisoners have to work? What a coincidence...

 

Surely you may agree with me that there is an enormous difference between a person being an unwilling, innocent slave, and, being a convicted felon!

 

Got it!

 

They are convicted criminals duh.

Most of them are black men because they are there for doing something violent to other black people. I guess the black crime victims don't matter.

A better example of involuntary servitude might be the military draft where people are basically slaves of the federal government to serve in the military.

 

She thinks the felon is the victim not the person they killed, raped or stole from.

 

They are treated like slaves. Forced to work with no pay.

 

They are treated like convicted criminals because they are convicted criminals. We can arrange for them to stay with you if you're concerned for their leisure time.

 

Not sure if convicted felons are paid in any way or not. That may vary from state-to-state, or may be offset by a reduction of sentence, depending on what a prisoner's crime was...(?). Some of them may make small amounts of cash or "script" to use in the prison store...(?)

Best policy -- don't commit crimes in the first place!

 

To to the OP, absolutely not.

You must have sold your soul to the God.

 

And he seemed so "nice" ​

 

Best policy of all: Don't be Black when you commit the crime.

 

Certainly can. Hence there is sufficient useful work for everyone to contribute to the economy.
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The Case for a Job Guarantee | Wiley

"One of the most enduring ideas in economics is that unemployment is both unavoidable and necessary for the smooth functioning of the economy. This assumption has provided cover for the devastating social and economic costs of job insecurity. It is also false.

In this book, leading expert Pavlina R. Tcherneva challenges us to imagine a world where the phantom of unemployment is banished and anyone who seeks decent, living-wage work can find it - guaranteed".

How to fund the Job Guarantee?

Well why can't the sovereign currency-issuing government (ie the federal government) itself fund it, (without taxing or borrowing), by creating and spending its own currency, since there are plenty of unemployed workers and plenty of paint brushes, paint...and lawnmowers. The issue is the potential capacity of the economy to produce the extra paint/brushes/lawnmowers required for full employment, before inflation becomes a problem.

And when/if the private sector requires more workers and can offer a higher wage than the JG wage (which is set at the minimum socially acceptable minimum wage in a wealthy economy), then some of the paint/brushes/lawmowers can be stored if necessary, until the next free market downturn...Actually most JG jobs will be low-resource-consuming, such as assisting the elderly to remain in their own homes, teaching a special skill if the unemployed person has a special skill eg teaching swimming to toddlers)

That's your first lesson in MMT.

 

You marched for Civil Rights, Pollycy?

 

The neoliberal free market system that tolerates entrenched poverty is the underlying cause of the criminality.

"You are living in poverty, your neighborhoods are like war zones, your schools and hospitals are broken..."

Trump stated the problem, now solve it...

 

As a business-oriented man I have no interest in nor do I see any value whatsoever in a Job Guarantee. It is not up to the gov to meddle in the marketplace like this and they will only cause further damage. Socialism promotes the weak and useless the same way giving kids participation trophies is a poorly conceived concept. If you're too dumb to learn how to be a productive member of society your family can support you, not the rest of us.

 

Yeah, me and a LOT of other White college-age kids -- this was way 'back in the day' (hey, I'm an old guy). Dr. Martin Luther King was still very much alive and all the old segregation crap was slowly being sent to the trash pile of history. Those days in the 60's were "agony-and-ecstasy", because even though Civil Rights were advancing toward full EQUALITY between all Americans rapidly, we had the Vietnam War getting larger and more horrible, too. Every generation has 'times' like this, I suppose.

 

You've gotten it 1/3rd right, Moriah.

There are three races, so, the advice should be "Don't commit crimes, no matter which of the three races you were born into...."

 

How about broadening your horizons?

Everyone has a Right and a Responsibility to contribute. The private sector free market alone cannot achieve this.

"You are living in poverty, your neighborhoods are like war zones, your young men are in prison......" DJ Trump.

He noted the reality; it seems you are content to accept it.

 

How about we have no business expanding gov powers? We certainly do not need MORE people dependent on the gov. That's ludicrous to expect the gov to give free **** to people who are too lazy or stupid to fend for themselves, that's a family matter.

 

Thank you for your marching. I was still pretty young during the 60's. I was in the 7th grade when Martin Luther King was assassinated. I've heard a few people say that MLK was killed because he 1) started speaking out against the VietNam war and 2) started advocating for poor people. He wanted to help all races of poor people, not just Blacks.
Yes, I guess every generation has it's difficulties.

 

America fought communism in Nam.

MLK was a commie.

 

It's not slavery from 1865, as if it was all fair and equal. People got killed for wanting equal rights all the way till it legally ended in the 1960's. A guy like Donald was raised up in an environment where he as a white young man had no competition in the college he went to. He also inherited a massive fortune from his father who was able to build an empire with no competition from black people. And Donald is just an example, of a man, still very alive, profited 1st hand how black people got oppressed.

 

And Dumpling Donald is a dirty draft dodger refusing to serve his country in Nam, while he has a fascist group who attacked The Capitol for him.

 

Did I miss where we're supposed to give black people a business for free so they can compete with other businesses again?

 

I don't disagree with nearly everything you said, frankly, although the fact that Trump inherited ~$120 million from his father does not mean that he "oppressed" any Black people.

But, you're right -- the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 forever ended the inequality that Blacks had been subjected to in this country, along with the "Jim Crow" laws, segregation, and all the rest of it -- and that's a VERY good thing, we can all agree.

Now, FIFTY-SIX YEARS later, and, ONE HUNDRED FIFTY-SIX YEARS after the last slave was set free in the United States, what possible justification can there be to pay "reparations" to American Blacks today? None of them -- not one of them -- was ever a 'slave', and a great many of them (Obama comes immediately to mind) have no ancestral connection to any slaves, either....

Should today's Italian government be forced to pay "reparations" to ME, because my German ancestors were taken as slaves by the Roman Empire...? It's just as FAIR a question, is it not...?