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Should businesses be allowed to deny fat/ugly people?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Sgt_McCluskey, Mar 28, 2015.

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  1. danielpalos

    danielpalos Banned

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    nope; some liberals want to advance "equality" to the point where we can even find nice girl friends at a dollar store.
     
    danielpalos, Apr 3, 2015
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  2. publican

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    Really? Let's take a peep at Bill Clinton's millionaire pal Ron Burkle who owns grocery stores all over the nation.

    He owns Food 4 Less and pays clerks $9.00 an hour. Fresh and Easy stores? His clerks get $10 an hour. Ralph's GroceRy Co? Clerks get $8.65 nat'l avg.
     
    publican, Apr 3, 2015
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  3. danielpalos

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    did you miss the social concept regarding equality?
     
    danielpalos, Apr 3, 2015
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  4. publican

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    Then where is it? Multimillionaire liberal Burkle pays an 'unlivable wage'. Aren't you lefties big on $15.00 an hour nationwide?
     
    publican, Apr 3, 2015
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  5. danielpalos

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    no; that is just a diversion. the main advance is ending the moral turpitude of appealing to ignorance of a federal Doctrine and State laws regarding the concept of employment at will.
     
    danielpalos, Apr 3, 2015
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    I see you revert back to your spam/babbling when you lose an argument.
     
    publican, Apr 3, 2015
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  7. danielpalos

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    you are the one falling for the diversion and fixing that precedent.
     
    danielpalos, Apr 3, 2015
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    Nope. Your babbling doesn't fool me.
     
    publican, Apr 3, 2015
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  9. danielpalos

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    you already did by falling for it and being of those of the opposing view.

    i already know you have nothing but fallacy for your Cause.
     
    danielpalos, Apr 3, 2015
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    Yes. I oppose babble. Who doesn't, besides you?


    ......that a babbler could understand.
     
    publican, Apr 3, 2015
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    No Thing but diversion for your Cause in public venues?

    The main advance is ending the moral turpitude of appealing to ignorance of a federal Doctrine and State laws regarding the concept of employment at will.
     
    danielpalos, Apr 3, 2015
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    From your babble............

    ............the babble and replace it with common sense. Try holding up your end.
     
    publican, Apr 3, 2015
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  13. danielpalos

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    i already am, grasshopper.
     
    danielpalos, Apr 3, 2015
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    ....babbling.
     
    publican, Apr 3, 2015
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    Any person should be free to interact with or refuse to interact with any other person. Unless he is violating the person or property of others, a person should be free to act as he wishes.
     
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    There is no appeal to ignorance of the law in favor of morals from Religion.
     
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    Sorry, I don't feed trolls. I promise that if I see substantial improvement on your part I'll reconsider.
     
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    Sure, just don't get a business license and find yourself jobs where you don't have to work with the public. You do not have a right to own or operate a business, absent the consent of the state, municipal and federal authorities and if you flout their laws, including civil rights statutes, you will learn very quickly that your doors can be boarded, your license suspended, your profits fined away and one hell of a legal bill down the road. Your business is not a private club
     
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    Then, Job 34:30 applies with Persons of religion.
     
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    I think a person does have a right to engage in trade without the permission of others. Actually, I see no reason why other people have a right to stop anyone from doing anything, as long as he isn't violating the person or property of others.

    I know that there are lots of people out there with the lust to dominate and control others. And I can see why they would like to forbid people doing things without their permission. It gives them more power, and it fills their coffers. I just don't agree that these people have any ethical grounds to initiate aggression against people who have harmed no one and are just guilty of engaging in, or declining to engage in, free exchange with their neighbors.

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    Sorry, I don't feed trolls. I promise that if I see substantial improvement on your part I'll reconsider.
     
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    Doesn't matter; i don't have to take you seriously any more simply because, after thrice it may also be a moral turpitude of vice. Job 34:30.
     
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    Sorry, I don't feed trolls. I promise that if I see substantial improvement on your part I'll reconsider.
     
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    You are making sort of a libertarian argument here. I don't know how far you go on this idea that governments ought not regulate, zone or license commercial endeavors consistent with public interests, or have sufficient authority to fine those businesses that do not comply with law or suspend or close down serious or repetitive offenders. But this involves everything from fire and health code, environmental laws, consumer laws building and zoning ordinances, OSHA and labor laws and civil rights laws.
     
    btthegreat, Apr 3, 2015
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    It's an argument based on the stance that we are all equals and that none of us is the ruler of our neighbor. I don't hold that I or anyone else has the legitimate right to tell someone whether or not they may interact with or decline to interact with his neighbor.
     
    Longshot, Apr 3, 2015
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    Neither do I. I just think you have to think long and hard about what it means when you decide you are going to commit to operating a business open to the public and be sure you can willingly obey all the laws a community, through its legislators may impose. You, in effect, waive some of these grandiose rights once you file for that business license. Its what makes the boy scouts and the lions club, and the Ladies Auxiliary different from Walmart, Home Depot and Bob's Hamburgers.
     
    btthegreat, Apr 3, 2015
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