Should It Be Legal For A Doctor To Lie To A Woman About Any Fetal Abnormalities?

The doctor should tell the mother and father everything of course

 

Its a bloody fact, Whaler. Abortion isn't a crime, it is not punishable by law, so therefore, a doctor has no reason to try and prevent a women from having one.

So you would prefer a woman give birth to a severely disabled child she cannot afford to care for?
Would you be willingly to care for that baby though? Seeing you are the one who is happy to lie to the woman and pretend her baby is healthy?

 

A conscience is enough.

 

Doctor is obligated to tell his patient his findings.

Whether that patient goes off afterwards to have an abortion is not his responsibility or his concern. Lay the facts out on the table, let the patient take it from there. If patient wants him to perform an abortion, at that point he can refer her to an abortionist doctor

 

Wow Hat...I actually agree with you.

 

Yes you do, and you do it all the time whether you're aware of it or not.

 

Feel free to post where I have lied about anything.

 

The problem I have with that is we've moved from the model of a physician offering a patient medical advice to one where the doctor has (with the intention of doing greater good) taken ownership of the medical problem, and thus responsibility for it's outcome. One of the first things they teach you in medicine is you cannot grantee results, so you should never promise results. There's an implicit promise of a "better" outcome when you deny your patient crucial information about their condition.

I believe that trend has continued at the patients insistence and is at the core of the skyrocketing cost of medicine these days.

Patients today want doctors to play God. They don't want a doctor offering them advice that might be to change their diet or get more exercise or sleep. They don't want the doctor to tell them what he thinks might be going on.

Instead, patients today demand a doctor be God. They require him to know with certainty what their problem is and to provide guaranteed, effortless solutions. They want a Lipitor with their cheeseburger and a Lap Band rather than a lap around the track. And they'll sue if results aren't exactly as they've been promised.

That model might work for celebrities that can afford private trainers, life coaches, private assistants, and other people to manage their life. But most of us can't afford that level of luxury. Trying to deliver it to whole nations on the taxpayer dollar... well. Just trying to will bankrupt nations.

 

You say an embryo/fetus isn't a person. I know that's not a lie to you, but it's a lie all the same.

 

Please provide proof that choicers have lied.

 

An embryo/fetus is not a person. Show proof that it is.

 

Holy crap I agree with you!!!! Good post, Hat!

 

If you are prepared to prove otherwise...well it's gonna be a whole new thread in itself. =P

 

Pretty sure you and I have already been down that road, but in any case there is no way to prove anything to a person who is determined to hold to his or her belief to the contrary.

 

Very true! =)

 

Actually it is not, but stating it is, is a lie.

 

Excellent post

But I see the real problem is where "moralistic" views "give them the right" to do whatever they want. A Doctor should NEVER assume his moral position is "superior" to the patient (except in cases of illegality). It is that sort of thinking that led to women in New Zealand not being treated for cervical cancer to women in Egypt being circumcised without consent when they went in for caesarian sections

There are two distinct issues here for pro-lifers

The obvious is that this may lead to more abortions if people are fully informed of deleterious outcomes but the second is more subtle but does strike at the foundation of pro-life

"wrongful birth" If a birth can be considered "wrong' to the point where it should not have occurred then that challenges the very foundation of "every life is sacred"