Should Trump receive the Nobel Peace Prize?

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Should Trump receive the Nobel Peace Prize?

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  2. No

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  4. No no matter what he does

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    creating a unneeded war for lies, is treason
     
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    Of course it does.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I hate Obama today for the same reason I hated him before he was elected. He's a prog, his policies worked against American values, and his failures were easily predicted, and consistently proven. Every country in the world recovered faster than the US under that loser Obama, that wasn't a fluke, it was poor leadership from the top down. He corrupted numerous government agencies and degraded any trust average Americans can have in what were once respectable institutions. Since I explained myself, this where you call me a racist, right?
     
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    I agree...I liked it before obama when we were losing 700,000 jobs a month. I liked it so much better when millions of people couldn’t see a dr. I miss having a war based on lies, and that damn stock market almost tripling. I miss having a president respected throughout the world.
    No I won’t call you a racist, just brainwashed . Tell us what agencies he corrupted. Trump is humiliating this country, and you’re grateful. I just hope you’re very rich, otherwise you’re getting screwed and saying thank you. I also missed all the scandals and corruption
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It wasn't Obama that saved anything, he actually slowed and stagnated the economy after its natural correction to extraordinary events. Jobs would not have bled out at 700,000 a month indefinitely. Obama destroyed confidence in the economy by screwing investors and paying off his union thugs. Obama and pals screwed the American people out of a trillion dollars on a failed stimulus that resulted in more unemployment than without it. Obamacare was, is, and always will be a disaster. It was stupid and unsustainable from the start, killing it only helps America.

    Obama corrupted the IRS, FBI, ICE, NSA, and CIA by using them as his personal weapons to further the prog cause while instructing them to ignore their rightful duty to the US and the Constitution...
     
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    This is such a wonderful example of refusing to give obama credit. .I especially like where you say we could not have bled out 700,000 jobs indefinitely. Do you think Bush would have turned it around where every single month year after year jobs increased. But in your world he decreased jobs. Even economists would laugh at you Tell us about how Obama screwed investors. Is that why the stock market tripled.? Tell us how he paid off the union thugs. I bet FOXNews told you that because it makes no sense . I also hope you will tell all the economists and that goes for right wing ones as well that Obama care was not a disaster. There are millions of Americans who can now see doctors. What happened to the Republicans? Weren’t they going to repeal it and give us something so much better? I bet you are believe that. Obama said that the affordable care act needed work but you would rather see people not be able to see doctors so you could put down Obama. And do you realize how ridiculous you sound when you say Obama corrupted all those organizations. It’s almost comical because you aren’t even aware that most of them were Republicans. Boy did trump know his base
     
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    Tell us what Obama got the Nobel prize for.
     
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    Still standing on this post hoc nonsense?
     
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    Bush did the right thing, he stepped back. The result was Obama had a clean slate and then predictably, Obama mucked it all up. Anyone who didn't hate America could have turned it around sooner. It was the longest recovery in our 200+ year history, including the Great Depression, which was way worse.

    Adding people to Medicare was a bigger problem than it solved, that drove up premiums for millions and millions of hard working Americans, this was also predicted and lo and behold here we are. If Obamacare isn't completely destroyed the middle class and its desire for any type of health care will be...
     
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    It was a RECOVERY! We recovered from the incompetence of the republicans

    Seems like a pattern, the republicans create a mess and the democrats leave it better than when they came in,
     
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    The whole world recovered before we did, it was a failure and kept us stagnant due to Obama's incompetence, nothing else...
     
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    100 dead Palestinians in Gaza say "no".
     
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    As does the vast majority of humanity. The few exceptions are bigoted hate mongers.
     
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    that's the way it ALWAYS is despite the repeated lies of the far right
     
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    Too bad he hired that imbecile Bolton who got on the air stating that he wanted a full on Libya type unilateral nuclear disarmament. That worked out great for Ghadaffi and Sadaam, didn't it. Bolton is an Israeli first neoCON with a big ignorant mouth and Trump is an idiot for hiring him after running on an anti-neoCON foreign policy platform. Who gets hired next? Perle, Wurmser, Wolfowitz, Zakheim, Libby? What a fiasco....Nobel prize....lol
     
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    Recovery? Nearly all the jobs created under Obama were part time or minimum wage. Wages stagnated, food stamp roles doubled. In addition, he admits that 95% of the wealth created during his administration went to the top 1%.
    http://money.cnn.com/2013/09/15/news/economy/income-inequality-obama/index.html
     
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    . Please show me your statistics that say practically all the jobs or part time or minimum wage. And do share this with the economist who disagree with your “facts”
    By the way look at the date of the article because his administration had more years and it improved. It was his predecessor who he had to undo I guess you’re very upset now that trumps tax cuts have gone to the richest Americans and cut the services of the neediest
     
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    How did he improve. He never changed his policies. In fact, after 8 years the medium income was lower than when he took office. Trump tax cuts benefit everyone. That has to have your panties in a wad. What services did he cut?

    https://www.investing.com/news/econ...ing-obama-era-part-time,-contract-work-449057
     
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    ,trumps tax cuts do not benefit everyone. His tax cuts are like giving a child a five dollar raise and her allowance and then telling her she has to buy her own clothes. You don’t even realize all the cuts that are happening. What did he cut? No wonder Trump loves his base because they don’t try to educate themselves and learn. He has cut education, Medicare, epa and infrastructure how much more have you gotten? I’ve gotten a lot of money back but I would rather not have gotten the money I don’t need and rather see children get healthcare. I would rather help the poor than the rich. We just have different values
    What is so fascinating to me is that just about every economist has to admit that Obama rescued us from depression and almost triple the stock market. Why does it kill you to give him some credit. Look at what Obama had and how he left. He inherited a crashing economy and handed over a improved one to trump
     
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    Everyone that pays federal income tax will pay less after the cut.
    The number people who pay $0 federal income tax will increase after the cut.
    How can you be right?
     
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    Now I see, you don't understand economics. Nearly all the economist say Obamas policies were counter productive and kept us in depressed economy. In the short time Trump has been in charge he has far exceeded all that Obama did in 8 years. When a corporation gets a tax cut they do not get a windfall, they become move competitive. In order to compete with all the other corporations that got the same tax cut they have to cut prices. This results in the customers getting a cheaper product. In other words, if GM is able to build a cars for $1,000 cheaper, they have to pass that $1,000 on to the customer because that is what Ford is doing.

    The top 1% pay 50% of the Federal Income taxes in this country. The top 20% pay nearly all the rest. This group is paying much more than it's share. If you are so disposed, you can spend your tax cut on the poor. There are many charities that will take it or you can hand it out on street corners if you like. However, it is not up to you to determine how others should spend their money. Many of us see people like you as enablers. We feel people are a valuable resource and have unlimited potential. However, many people need incentive to reach their potential. Many of the so called poor get over $30,000 annually in handouts. Why should they work? This is why there are families who have been of welfare for 5 or 6 generations. The poor that reach their potential become productive citizens, develop pride and self reliance. Their children learn from their role models and are much more likely to succeed themselves. You can't put a price on that, it is priceless. Your healthcare argument is a straw dog. Anyone can walk into any public hospital in this country and be treated. There are also groups like the Shriners who will pick up the bill for any child. Health insurance is not healthcare.

    How well is the current education system working? Among the most needy, you have a 50% drop out rate. You must find this acceptable, I don't. Why are you afraid to try something different? As a man who is very good at solving problems, the main thing I learned is to not keep doing what is not working. I also know that with change comes ruffled feathers. Those who are feather bedding on the old system will fight you.

    Beyond that, government resources are limited. The more you flush down the drain on hopeless causes the less you have for things that matter. It is not hard to understand, you continue with things that work and you quit throwing away money on things that don't.
     
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    Your arguments are ridiculous.....and filled with such contempt for the poor and don’t tell me I don’t know about economics.....
     
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    This what I expected. Typical lib **** response. You have no argument, so you resort to name calling. Sad to be you.
     
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    I hope not. I view the Nobel peace prize as a political football not worthy of being received. What he deserves is a re-election.
     
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    Can I ask after reading his response it seemed well reasoned. How is he incorrect, so that we can judge who has it right?
     

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