Should we ban the indoctrination and brainwashing of children by religions? Is it chi

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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    I apologize if I hurt your feelings. Nevertheless your inability to accept well documented history seems odd to me. You continue to deny that the Holocaust was a far greater crime than the witch hunts even though you know better. I have to ask - who does that?

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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    The modern era socialist worker tyrannies committed by far the worst crimes against humanity since the dawn of civilization to shut up and eliminate opposition. Isn't it odd that they still have their active apologists?

    "R. J.. Rummel, a professor emeritus of political science .... has painstakingly compiled statistics accounting for the number of people killed worldwide by "democide," a term he coined to describe governments' intentional killing ... of civilians....

    ...Rummels books on the subject - particularly "Death By Government" (1994) and "Statistics of Democide" (1997) - provide the most comprehensive estimates currently available, and the ones most often referenced by scholars.

    Rummel estimates that from 1900 to 1987 governments murdered almost 170 million people - a figure that far exceeds the 34.4 million battle deaths thought to have resulted from all the international and civil wars fought during the same period....

    Democide often occurs under authoritarian regimes... Indeed democratic governments were responsible for only about one percent of the twentieth century's death toll from democide...." The Atlantic Monthly, "The World In Numbers," "Murder By The State," Vol. 292 NO. #4, 11/2003.

    When you find Holocaust denial you will always find even more comprehensive historical revisionism.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Tyrants, dictators and authoritarians love your ideology. They too can not stand logic and love fallacy.
     
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    Now Gifted, surely you know that the church courts reintroduced Roman concepts of due process that became the basis for modern Western jurisprudence. That is who the odds heavily favored those accused of witchcraft.

    “As a result, between 1550 and 1700 the Spanish Inquisition heard 4000 witchcraft cases and less than a dozen people were executed. Similarly, in Italy, the inquisition never put anyone to death for witchcraft. In Friuli, for example, there were 131 witch accusations and not one resulted in a capital sentence, in Venice, there were over 500 inquisitorial hearings for witchcraft between 1550 and 1650 and nine resulted in a death sentence. In Portugal between 1536 and 1821 “the Inquisition maintain jurisdiction over the crime of witchcraft … and there was only one case of execution,in Evora in 1626.” The Holocaust In Historical Context Vol 1, Steven T. Katz, Oxford University Press, 1994.p. 501.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The topic was witches. The Christians tortured witches into confessions and then killed them.

    Once again you try and change the topic because you can not handle the truth.
     
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    That is very good it will be rewarding to see those tyrants, dictators and authoritarians change their ways and start to adopt Western Christian oriented Judicial system in fact we are slowly seeing that happened in Russia, China and countries in Africa, Jordan, Egypt they are now slowly embracing our judicial system of equal and right to legal representation.
     
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    The truth is those witches were given fair trial and representation they were protected from the mob and those found guilty were sentenced unlike the Holocaust a crime against humanity ethnic cleansing of an entire human race sadly you can not see the huge difference understandably that is why we are here to make sure no such distortions of history goes unchecked.

    The truth is you can not handle and refused to accept that Christianity was instrumental against chaos, tyranny, oppression and ethnic cleansing because of your extreme anti Christian indoctrination.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Spanish Inquisition was a minor part of the witch killing as mentioned to you numerous times already.

    Mindless repetition of irrelevant information is not much helping your case ;)
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And this relates to how the Church was torturing and killing folks suspected of witchcraft how ?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you think that torturing people into making confessions and then killing them is fair, you are welcome to your opinion.

    I just do not share it :)
     
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    Focus Gifted.

    “And, finally, how many victims were there? “For witchcraft and sorcery between 1400 and 1800, all in all, we estimate something like 50,000 legal death penalties," writes Wolfgang Behringer in "Witches and Witch-Hunts" (Polity, 2004). He estimates that perhaps twice as many received other penalties, "like banishment, fines or church penance." By PETER STEINFELS. 22, 2005 Historians and Scholars Produce New Picture of Witches and WitchHunts, but Questions Remain, New York Times, 10/22/2005.
     
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    The comparison I made had nothing to do with the number of killings.

    Do not blame me for inability to focus :)
     
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    I was going to reply, but instead I decided to make this e-card.

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    Nice stuff the kind of stuff that's the main cause of obesity, possessiveness, couch potato, and selfishness. Indoctrination to eat.
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    Torturing is never welcome or the first choice that is why everyone is given a fair trial right to be represented unlike atheist regimes where torture and no legal rights mob rule is norm.

    I can understand that you prefer the atheist way and not the Christian fair justice system.
     
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    The rational of the execution was that those accused of witchcraft were given fair trial this opens up and started the evolution of today's democratic judicial system. Those accused witches would have been or in today's case all accused of crimes would have been lynch, drag out by mob rule. The Holocaust victims were never given any fair trial it was an ethnic cleansing against an entire human race it is very sad and alarming that you can't seem to see the huge difference.

    Properly educating you is never pointless.
     
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    Communism?
     
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    The justice system under Christianity for suspected witches in the middle ages included the use of torture.

    You claimed this system was fair.
     
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    If you think torturing suspected witches into confessions was "Fair" this is your right.

    Thanks for educating me in your opinion but, I disagree with it.
     
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    Most religions are benign and promote good moral values, kindness, charity, and salvation. Islam is not a religion. It's a totalitarian ideology of conquest and terror that's been attacking the civilized world for over a thousand years. And now, for the sake of PC (a mechanism for control, by the Left) we're allowing Islam to consume us without a fight.
     
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