Should we ban the indoctrination and brainwashing of children by religions? Is it chi

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." The fatuous excuse for the extermination of the many by the few - in power.

"Rummels books on the subject - particularly "Death By Government" (1994) and "Statistics of Democide" (1997) - provide the most comprehensive estimates... that from 1900 to 1987 governments MURDERED almost *170* MILLION people ... far exceeds the 34.4 million battle deaths ... from all...wars fought during the same period.... democratic governments were responsible for only about one percent of the twentieth century's death toll from democide...." The Atlantic Monthly, "The World In Numbers," "Murder By The State," Vol. 292 NO. #4, 11/20. (emphasis mine)

The modern era progressive socialist worker regimes and their apologists are the great existential threat to humanity.

 

Evidence hearing can save your butt from the mob. The witch trials often dismissed the charges as unsupported and usually spared the lives of the accused. They represented a step up.

 

Even Islam was a step up from the routine senseless ME tribal slaughter it replaced. But it can be interpreted to justify totalitarian blood lust and genocidal mass slaughter.

 

The Church was the only institution capable of stopping mob rule in medieval Europe from religious fanatics and this may include fanatics atheist from going after individuals accused of being witches just like Galileo was rescued by the church from his enemies the justice system introduced by the church in the middle ages saved thousands of innocent people from being persecuted as witches. When it comes to torture the secular government were the ones who conduct it not the church.

Not sure why you keep defending the guilty criminals?

 

The individuals that were accused of being witches were found guilty due to evidences and fair representation not through torture the church does not do torture only the secular government does. Many individuals that were falsely accused of witchcraft were found to be innocent and set free.

 

The Church routinely tortured people into confessions. The torture chambers were in the Church basements !

You can read up on some of the methods used here. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican29.htm

 

I would answer the OP idealistically, 'Yes. We should'. But it seems to be impossible. Instead, we go from one 'majority opinion' about religious & philosophical opinions to another, each taking the lead on controlling the narrative. A century ago, it was christianity that was 'taught' in public schools. Now, after an interesting timeline of court cases, it is atheistic, evolutionary naturalism, aka, 'secular humanism'.

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

It seems to me the most militant, activist 'religion' is the one to take control, & dictate to the rest how far they can go in the society. Islam is very intolerant, as is naturalism. Christianity was intolerant, during the dark ages, but after the reformation, the enlightenment, & the Age of Reason took hold, the concepts of 'freedom of religion' & tolerance were elevated as a virtue. But that was short lived, & we are back on track for the normal human intolerance of diverse views of a philosophical nature.

 

Correct.

“As a result, between 1550 and 1700 the Spanish Inquisition heard 4000 witchcraft cases and less than a dozen people were executed. Similarly, in Italy, the inquisition never put anyone to death for witchcraft. In Friuli, for example, there were 131 witch accusations and not one resulted in a capital sentence, in Venice, there were over 500 inquisitorial hearings for witchcraft between 1550 and 1650 and nine resulted in a death sentence. In Portugal between 1536 and 1821 “the Inquisition maintain jurisdiction over the crime of witchcraft … and there was only one case of execution,in Evora in 1626.” The Holocaust In Historical Context Vol 1, Steven T. Katz, Oxford University Press, 1994.p. 501.

People who know nothing about the witch hunts seem to have relied on old Vincent Price movies for their odd opinions. Who said, 'History is hard!' ?

 

Religious intolerance is bad. But compared to modern era intolerance it was benign. It was easy to survive Islamic and Christian intolerance through conversion and a bit of groveling. Jews caught by the SS were not given the option of joining the NSDAP. Ditto, those targeted by the secret police of the other modern era progressive socialist worker regimes. They could love the regime and the tyrant evan as the bullet entered the back of their skulls.

"R. J.. Rummel, a professor emeritus of political science .... has painstakingly compiled statistics accounting for the number of people killed worldwide by "democide," a term he coined to describe governments' intentional killing ... of civilians....

...Rummels books on the subject - particularly "Death By Government" (1994) and "Statistics of Democide" (1997) - provide the most comprehensive estimates currently available, and the ones most often referenced by scholars.

Rummel estimates that from 1900 to 1987 governments murdered almost 170 million people - a figure that far exceeds the 34.4 million battle deaths thought to have resulted from all the international and civil wars fought during the same period....

Democide often occurs under authoritarian regimes... Indeed democratic governments were responsible for only about one percent of the twentieth century's death toll from democide...." The Atlantic Monthly, "The World In Numbers," "Murder By The State," Vol. 292 NO. #4, 11/2003.

I had assumed that more people were killed in the last century's horrific wars. I was wrong. The systematic murder of civilians by their own governments killed 5 times as many human beings.

 

The church has the most extensive and complete records of history nothing has been left out records keeping is always very important to prevent any false information from being spread.
“Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.”
― Dwight D. Eisenhower

 

Notorious torture and prison chambers were in castles, and barracks of Muslim and secular government. The church basement holds catacombs, and tombs of passed away priest, nuns and other poor people who can not afford to pay for a grave.

 

and Torture rooms !

 

Yes, and the witch trials and the Inquisition were very well documented. Clearly to the chagrin of the historical revisionists.

Great quote from Ike.

 

Torture, dungeons rooms that are historically notorious for torture just to name a few are:
Camp 22, North Korea
Diyarbakır Prison of Ottoman Empire
Al-Ha’ir Prison, Saudi Arabia
La Santa Prison, France
Bang Kwang Prison, Thailand
Tadmor Military Prison, Syria
Texas State Penitentiary, the USA
Hanoi Hilton
Tuol Sleng Genocide Museum
Devil's Island
Tower of London
The Bastille
Gulag
Nazi gas chambers
Imperial Japan prison camps

The Church play a vital role with its basement used as a refuge and sanctuary for refugees, victim of torture, political refugees, run away slaves it is also use as a clinic and hospital.

 

The Church played a vital role in Torturing anyone who disagreed with Church Doctrine !

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican29.htm

http://see_the_truth.webs.com/inquisition.html

The Church was the most evil of institutions.

 

The Church was the only institution that torture victims, refugees, poor people, persecuted people could turn to and church grounds including basements has become a sanctuary today this still holds true church grounds are Holy grounds and are respected by government as a place of sanctuary.
The Church was the only institution that stands against evil.
This is why the church has been and is still under constant attack by its enemies in books, philosophy, religion, history and militancy all attempts to break the church down so that evil may triumph and so far the church has stood the test of time against all these evil attacks.

 

The Church was not the only institution that tortured its victims but, it certainly came up with some of the most gruesome and horrific torture methods imaginable.

A truly evil institution.

 

The church was the only leading institution up to today that provide sanctuary for victims of torture it is the only safe haven for the victims to seek protection and fair trial.

 

Of course the Church is not the only institution that provides sanctuary for victims of torture these days but, we are not talking about "today".

In the Middle ages the Church was the leading proponent of torture.

The founding principles of the USA were a reaction against the horrific atrocities of the Church.