EEO and AA are fundamentally unrelated. The best explanation of the difference that I found doing a quick search is provided by the Michigan.gov website: http://www.michigan.gov/dhs/0,4562,7-124-8992-17589--F,00.html BTW Federal Affirmative Action only relates to federally contracted entities such as Lockheed and I don't think that Hostess Brands is considered a federal contractor. The federal government might purchase Hostess Brand products but I doubt it has a contractual relationship with Hostess. We still have the fact that statistically there is no discrimination against "white males" in the United States. To claim that there is "discrimination against white males" because of Affirmative Action is false based upon statistical studies. Anecdotal cases do not reflect whether general discrimination exists as we can always find "anecdotal" cases that reflect an abnormality. As Factcheck.org likes to say, "The plural of anecdotal is no data."
Tell you what. You reLIE on leftist 'Factcheck' and I'll go by real life experience. Communism was great on paper also. Not so much so according to 'anecdotal' evidence. The EEOC monitors demos at the workplace. Deal with it. And AA is discriminatory by definition.
That fact that university enrollment favors under-performing Blacks and Hispanics is one solid example of discrimination against Whites.
All individuals that are admitted to colleges must met the criteria for admissions and none of them are "under-performers" as all of them are required to pass the admission test. Colleges and universities do often have a limited number of seats reserved for those that meet very high admission standards but below that level the college or university can use whatever criteria it wants in determining who, out of the remaining qualified individuals, it wants to admit. We can note that nationally there is no statistical evidence whatsoever that "Whites" are discriminated against in college/university admissions. On the flip side we can show that statistically African-Americans are discriminated against related to college/university admissions as they are significantly under-represented as a demographic group.
Lie. They are under-qualified compared to other, more qualified students they replace. So can you not do basic statistics? If Afro-Americans have higher chance of enrollment than a White student with the same, or slightly better, background, test scores and high school GPA due to Affirmative Action, that means that White student was discriminated against. Does simple logic escape you? But good to see you're making up claims again. How's that study on three year old White and Black children with the same IQ you falsified coming along?
High school GPA and admission test scores are not the only criteria used in college admissions, nor are they necessarily the most important criteria, and statistically African-Americans are not more likely to be admitted to a college or university than white students. The "racist" likes to select a single criteria to rationalize their racism as opposed to addressing the overall issue of anti-black racial discrimination. They like to ignore other criteria or situations like discrimination in employment were equally or more qualified blacks are denied employment/advancement because of anti-black racial prejudice (predominately by "conservatives" that express by far and away the highest explicit anti-black racial prejudice).
Women and men don't have the same brain volume and there is no actual correlation between brain volume and intelligence except in a general sense when estimating the intelligence (not measuring the intelligence) of different species. To date we're not even able to measure human intelligence because we haven't even been able to define it. The "racist" myth is that IQ tests measure human intelligence but they were never designed to do that. They measure a limited aspect of human intelligence for the purpose of predicting potential future outcomes of the individual.
Funny you didn't answer the question and made a diversion to males and females. Apparently you must believe males and females are more alike than males of two different racial groups. Either that, or you're throwing out a red herring. Do Blacks and Whites have the same brain volume? On what test measuring cognitive ability do Whites and Blacks perform equally?
What I actually said is that Blacks are more likely to be admitted over Whites when they have same grades, test scores, background, etc., (not surprised you can't read). Do Blacks and Whites have the same brain volume? How's that 'study' you lied claiming existed supposedly showing equal IQ for 3 year old Black and White children?
African-Americans do NOT have the same backgrounds as Whites in the United States. White males in the United States have never been subjected to invidious racial discrimination that denies equality of opportunity.
I'll have to start and leave to return later as my wife has lunch ready. I have gone through life wearing a full length leg brace due to polio. I have a tendency to be compassionate, and when I express this emotion, I end up getting a swift kick in the rear. Back in a bit! Thank you for waiting!
It's called affirmative action, which is what we're discussing. Feel free to coherently outline the 'invidious racial discrimination' of equal opportunity which would account for the Black-White IQ gap for college bound high school students.
Maybe old-men white liberals are the ones that should be punished, after all they are responsible for the failed welfare state and typically align themselves with race-baiters like Sharpton and Jackson who have done more to harm minorities since slavery.
Considering that IQ tests don't measure "human intelligence" why would anyone seriously care about them? According to the APA there are no tests that measure human intelligence. Only "racists" seem to care about citing IQ test scores. The claim was implied that the "backgrounds" of whites and blacks is the same and that is false. Colleges can address differences in the backgrounds in their admission policies if they choose to do so. Of note when addressing IQ tests there is a fundamental test assumption that all individuals taking the test come from similiar social backgrounds but we know that statistically blacks and whites do not have similiar social backgrounds. The APA has noted that this problem exists when comparing IQ test results. In fact, over the years, there have been attempts to address the social background differences between blacks and whites in IQ tests but so far I haven't heard of much success in this regard.
IQ tests measure cognitive ability. Throwing in a red herring because intelligence can never be fully qualified or quantified doesn't mean IQ tests have no importance in the real world, or measure aspects of what is defined as intelligence. But I guess after you've changed your argument from claiming 3 year old Black and White children have the same IQ to now claiming IQ doesn't matter tells us we both know the answer to the question you're avoiding.
http://www.apa.org/monitor/feb03/intelligent.aspx The APA openly admits there still remain serious problems with the tests themselves as well as how they are being used. They are not nor have the ever been the only or even the most important criteria related to college admissions No, I'm not going back to try and find a study I read years ago and repeating this statement is both trolling and to a lesser degree flamebaiting.
