Would you take mine? Have them email you their story, or get their permission to record the phone call, or have them mail you a letter, or ask them to come here and join the conversation.
I recall, Hannibal was replying to your repeated demands for evidence , so you can't call it spamming, unless you're going to call your repeated demands spamming too. As soon as OP returns clarify the topic we'll be happy to interact with them. After all, even you agreed the topic's premise was flawed, http://www.politicalforum.com/9-11/232465-simple-request-flight-93-a-5.html#post1060868315 so you can hardy tell people to "get back on topic" until OP returns to clarify the topic. The other alternative is the mods could lock the thread.
Or those alleged photos and videos! LOL Hannibal says "they've shared them with 'many'," so should be too hard to get.
It appears suede is too cowardly to address his own assertions. There is one thing involving zero percent that is provable: that's the amount of evidence suede has provided since he's been a member in this forum. Zero Evidence to back up his staged/planted United 93 theory. He has wasted a lot of bandwidth though.
Hannibal isn't the topic of this thread. In fact the topic needs to be made clearer by the OP before we can go on with it. Until then maybe you'd like to share with us what you think happened to flight93 in this thread: http://www.politicalforum.com/9-11/...k-happened-flight-93-september-11-2001-a.html Surprised you didn't vote by now.
Here's a estimate of how much plane debris should have come out of the hole: Claim: 80% of Flight 93 buried--over 30 cars-worth! http://killtown.blogspot.com/2007/04/claim-80-of-flight-93-buried.html Here's an aerial shot of the excavation: Where's all the excavated plane debris? Over 30 cars-worth is a heck of a lot of debris. How could all of that been missed? The only thing I see that came out of that hole is dirt. There's pile of that around the excavated hole. OFFICIAL STORY
Suede are you STILL trying to pretend they would just dig everything up and leave it in a pile to be gone through later?!? That is (*)(*)(*)(*)ing RE TAR DED!!!!! They would be going through the debris one layer at a time as they extract the plane parts and they wouldn't just leave the plane parts lying around. Come on. You're not that stupid. Another falacy in your claim is that that single picture encompasses the entire extraction process and thus everything should be visible. Boy, when you swing and miss you swing and MISS!!!!
Not necessarily. OK, so where would/did they put all the THOUSANDS of pieces of plane debris after they did that? Fine. Show me another pic that shows the collected debris that supposedly came out of that 50 foot hole.
OK, show any other investigation where they disturb the scene by just digging everything up and THEN going through it. How should I know? My guess would be some place they could store it for examination later LIKE EVERY OTHER NTSB INVESTIGATION! Don't have one. Call the people who were there. You have the number. Just because some truther can't see a picture doesn't mean the truther bull(*)(*)(*)(*) is true.
Do you not know what "Not necessarily" means? We are talking about debris equaling to about THIRTY CARS. How did all that get missed? Nothing really buried would perfectly explain this mystery.
Yes I do. Do you understand that they're not going to be so retarded as to do what you claimed they did which is to excavate everything and sort through it later? Is it POSSIBLE they could do that? Sure. Just about anything is possible. Is it probable? HELL NO! It took several months to dig up all the parts. You think all thirty cars worth would be out at one time? Only in your confused mind. In the mean time you have all these people working dilligently to excavate all these parts. Are you trying to tell us that no parts were excavated and NOBODY NOTICED?!? Your claims get more retarded the more you try and explain them. Killtown had the same problem. As soon as he started trying to explain stuff, the wheels fell off his wagon and he had to give up.
Suede, I think your problem is you have trouble recognizing the difference between good and bad sources. For instance, Wikipedia is a good source. So is the FBI. OTOH "Killtown" is a bad source. Most of your problems interacting with forum users here originate from citing bad sources. You may have convinced yourself these are "top level" sources, but everyone else con see it's conspiracy troll spam. Hope this helps.
Good, then you understand I'm "not necessarily" saying what you think I am. If people gave up arguing with you, I'm going with it was because you were woefully ignorant of the official facts of the case and didn't want to bother wasting their time with someone who doesn't know what the hell they are talking about. Perhaps you should go brush up on the "facts" of the case a little (Hint, hint.) How many worked the excavation and sorting? How many of the over thousand that worked the scene know the official story that most of the plane supposedly buried? Of the thousand plus working the scene, how many were interviewed or posted person stories that mention tons and tons and tons of debris being extracted from the ground? I couldn't find any.
Which part(s) can't I refute? Why? They reported about all his other activities during the investigation. Why would they skip such an intriging part of the story? Why didn't he ever mention he was in the hole like you "ASSume" when being interviewed? Why NO photo of ANYBODY in the extracted hole? Your THEORY Miller was in the hole has a LOT of "holes." That was YOU who was saying that. I'm totally cool with you showing me evidence someone outside the hole saw tons of pieces coming out of it. Got any? You claimed to have "numerous" people that did. So far, that looks to be another big ole lie from you.
You seemed to have a problem explaining why Wally's explaination didn't make sense to you: You certainly have not refuted it...excessive shocked smilies don't count...
I know who can! Contact information for some flight 93 crash scene responders Phone contacts (all public): Shanksville Volunteer Fire Co: (814) 267-4737 Somerset County Emergency Services : non emergency(814) 445-1525 toll free 1-800-362-5060 Westmoreland County Dept. of Emergency Management: 724-834-7007 Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency Harrisburg: (717) 651-2201 Go directly to the source.
So now you're pretending to be a mind reader? BWAAAAHAHAHAHA! You're right. I got it wrong. Excavations went from 9/12 to 9/25. So let's see. Your picture was probably taken at 1/125th of a second. Seems to me your picture is STILL not a very good representation of everything that happened there. So because some internet detective wannabe doesn't find any specific evidence he likes to pretend there must be, this is proof it didn't happen?!?! That is HILARIOUS! Your whole case is based on nothing but retarded opinions that make no sense. Of the thousand plus working the scene, why hasn't ONE of them stepped forward to validate your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) opinion? Pretending that there MUST be some kind of interview process after the fact to validate what was removed is evidence no material is removed is ludicrous, but that is how you roll. You pretend a picture showing dirt means only dirt was removed. You pretend that because no reporter reported Wally Miller in the hole that all Wally Miller's statements about parts being buried are lies because he was never "in the hole". Are you listening to the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) you're spewing? Your opinions are pure LUNACY and not evidence.
So far any of it. Epic fail. They did? Wow. What did he have for lunch on September 19. Come on. You've made the claim they reported on ALL his other activities. Surely you should be able to tell us minute by minute what he was doing. Do you see the literal lunacy of your position yet? If not I can keep going. Really? The only one you can come up with is the retarded theory that it would have been reported. Like some reporter is so hard up for a story that he would write WALLY MILLER WENT INTO THE HOLE! OMG! Listen to yourself. You can't possibly believe your own bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Um.... no. That was you. Hence your near maniacal obsession with Wally Miller being IN the hole as opposed to around the hole or looking in the hole. What.... you think we don't read the crap you write? It was in your LAST POST! Really? OK. Show me where I said "there are witnesses that saw tons of pieces come out of the hole". I didn't. I know it. You know it. You're just sitting there lying your ass off pretending you're not. Think anyone is fooled? Nope. Now, are there witnesses who said parts of the plane were in the hole? Yes. You have failed miserably at refuting these witnesses and have failed at making any claims that actually fit the facts or make sense. Deal with it.
In order to do that he has to pretend his opinion is evidence and is more credible than every worker in Shanksville. What do you think the odds are of any non-truther actually believing suede over the people who were actually there?
Skeptics with the ability to use the telephone = 0 Truthers with the ability to conduct direct interviews with Shanksville witnesses = 10 (at least) Skeptics with the ability to conduct direct interviews with Shanksville witnesses = 0
Truthers with any actual evidence to back up their bull(*)(*)(*)(*) claims even after supposedly talking to Shanksville witnesses? = 0
Skeptics with any actual evidence to back up their bull(*)(*)(*)(*) claims that most of Flight 93 buried = 0