Six Oath Keepers convicted in connection with January 6 US Capitol riot

Huh?
"seditious conspiracy" is "just rioting"?

 

A conspiracy needs to be organized.

 

Oy Vey!
Shoulda paid attention to the trials and the Fed's evidence ,

 

Awesome !!!!!

Hope he rots in jail. He will be required to serve most if not all of his sentence.

 

Hate to ruin your day but you’re wrong.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ex...ol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/

 

Do catch up.
Your article is from August 20, 2021.


!!!!! Monday, January 23, 2023

'Four Oath Keepers Found Guilty of Seditious Conspiracy Related to U.S. Capitol Breach'
'Defendants Also Convicted of Related Felony Charges'

Snip:

"According to the government’s evidence, following the Nov. 3, 2020, presidential election, the defendants conspired together and with others to oppose by force the execution of the laws governing the transfer of presidential power by Jan. 20, 2021. Beginning in late December 2020, via encrypted and private communications applications, the defendants and various co-conspirators coordinated and planned to travel to Washington, D.C., on or around Jan. 6, 2021, the date of the certification of the electoral college vote. The defendants made plans to bring weapons to the area to support the operation. The co-conspirators then traveled across the country to the Washington, D.C., metropolitan area in early January 2021, with paramilitary gear and supplies including firearms, tactical vests with plates, helmets, and radio equipment.

The defendants conspired through a variety of manners and means, including: organizing into teams that were prepared and willing to use force and to transport firearms and ammunition into Washington, D.C.; recruiting members and affiliates to participate in the conspiracy; organizing trainings to teach and learn paramilitary combat tactics; bringing and contributing paramilitary gear, weapons, and supplies – including knives, camouflaged combat uniforms, tactical vests with plates, helmets, eye protection, and radio equipment – to the Capitol grounds; breaching and attempting to take control of the Capitol grounds and building on Jan. 6, 2021, in an effort to prevent, hinder and delay the certification of the electoral college vote; using force against law enforcement officers while inside the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021; continuing to plot, after Jan. 6, 2021, to oppose by force the lawful transfer of presidential power; and using websites, social media, text messaging and encrypted messaging applications to communicate with co-conspirators and others.'


https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/four...editious-conspiracy-related-us-capitol-breach

 

Do you read just the headers before you post something as your proof?

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"FBI investigators did find that cells of protesters, including followers of the far-right Oath Keepers and Proud Boys groups, had aimed to break into the Capitol. But they found no evidence that the groups had serious plans about what to do if they made it inside, the sources said.

Prosecutors have filed conspiracy charges against 40 of those defendants, alleging that they engaged in some degree of planning before the attack.

They alleged that one Proud Boy leader recruited members and urged them to stockpile bulletproof vests and other military-style equipment in the weeks before the attack and on Jan. 6 sent members forward with a plan to split into groups and make multiple entries to the Capitol.

But so far prosecutors have steered clear of more serious, politically-loaded charges that the sources said had been initially discussed by prosecutors, such as seditious conspiracy or racketeering.'

 

If my memory serves me... lol
From the little I had read about her Rhode's ex(?) wife is right there with ya.

 

Yep!

Tasha Adams, the estranged wife of Oath Keepers' founder Elmer Stewart Rhodes, was "thrilled" to learn of her husband's conviction related to the January 6 Capitol riot on Tuesday.Nov 29, 2022

Oath Keepers Founder's Estranged Wife 'Beyond Happy' With ...

 

Interesting thread on how it came down today in court




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'A second Oath Keepers member, Kelly Meggs, the leader of the Florida contingent of the group, was sentenced to 12 years in prison. The sentences are the first handed down in over a decade for seditious
conspiracy.

15 mins ago

 

Which GOP presidential candidate will be the first to say they'll pardon Rhodes and his ilk who were convicted/sentenced of seditious conspiracy etc charges?

As Trump said the J6'ers had "love in their hearts" and it was a "beautiful day".

They have to keep up their one upping each other.

 

No grand scheme!

 

"No grand scheme" you say.
Try reading.


Snip:

"According to the government’s evidence, following the Nov. 3, 2020, presidential election, the defendants conspired together and with others to oppose by force the execution of the laws governing the transfer of presidential power by Jan. 20, 2021. Beginning in late December 2020, via encrypted and private communications applications, the defendants and various co-conspirators coordinated and planned to travel to Washington, D.C., on or around Jan. 6, 2021, the date of the certification of the electoral college vote. The defendants made plans to bring weapons to the area to support the operation. The co-conspirators then traveled across the country to the Washington, D.C., metropolitan area in early January 2021, with paramilitary gear and supplies including firearms, tactical vests with plates, helmets, and radio equipment.

The defendants conspired through a variety of manners and means, including: organizing into teams that were prepared and willing to use force and to transport firearms and ammunition into Washington, D.C.; recruiting members and affiliates to participate in the conspiracy; organizing trainings to teach and learn paramilitary combat tactics; bringing and contributing paramilitary gear, weapons, and supplies – including knives, camouflaged combat uniforms, tactical vests with plates, helmets, eye protection, and radio equipment – to the Capitol grounds; breaching and attempting to take control of the Capitol grounds and building on Jan. 6, 2021, in an effort to prevent, hinder and delay the certification of the electoral college vote; using force against law enforcement officers while inside the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021; continuing to plot, after Jan. 6, 2021, to oppose by force the lawful transfer of presidential power; and using websites, social media, text messaging and encrypted messaging applications to communicate with co-conspirators and others.'


https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/four...editious-conspiracy-related-us-capitol-breach

 

Judge: "It's not a political case". He then proceeds to claim the criminal defendant an "ongoing threat to the Republic". Like, it's laughable to claim there's no politics involved, only to agree with the politics of the prosecution.

If the Judge wanted to actually stand by that, he wouldn't have used those words at all. It is a political clown show, it's always been a political clown show but truth be told? That technically doesn't matter at all, as law enforcement is the agency of the State, and the Court is the 'trial' of the State. Be it in this, or any other example.

To be clear: The individual deserved to be sentenced, yes. But when the prosecution, and this court tries to make a claim of a non-political trial, while using political rhetoric, it's fake and empty. The other defendant was sentenced to '12 years' due to not being a similar 'ongoing threat'. How did the judge come to this conclusion? It doesn't say.

He's not a political prisoner, but it is a political case.

 

The Justice Department is being misleading here. We know through the court filings that the so-called weapons(largely across the tarmac in Virginia) were inaccessible to those in the criminal riots on the 6th.

And honestly, the 'prevent, hinder, delay the certification' is largely what the prosecution has argued, but it never truly definitively proved. Rather, it ended up becoming a case of 'the absence of evidence, isn't the evidence of absence'. But this is because meas rea is hard to prove in general. The truth is, we'll never know what lies in the hearts and minds of those individuals, who made conflicting claims in court and those claims can't be denied, any more than the other claims can be accepted.

 

The judge is right.
You are wrong.

"The sentence for Stewart Rhodes is the longest imposed on a Jan. 6 defendant to date. In a politically-charged speech in the courtroom just before his sentencing, he called himself a "political prisoner" and said that when he talked about "regime change" in a phone call with supporters earlier this week, he meant he hopes that former President Donald Trump will win in 2024.

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'Mehta told Rhodes that he was found guilty of seditious conspiracy “not because of your beliefs, not because you supported the other guy, not because Joe Biden is president right now,” but because of the facts of the case, and his actions before, during and after Jan. 6.


“You are not a political prisoner, Mr. Rhodes,” he said.'

 

If I were wrong, then the judge would've never uttered a single word of what he had said "You, sir, present an ongoing threat and a peril to this country, and to the republic and to the very fabric of this democracy". That is a political statement. It can be nothing but a political statement.

He could've at least saved some grace if he had said something like "You pose an active danger to the community with your belief in violent rhetoric." but he chose political terms instead.

Because it is political, that much is clear.

 

Just stop. you are totally wrong.

Rhodes is NOT a "political prisoner" as he claimed to be.


"Mehta told Rhodes that he was found guilty of seditious conspiracy “not because of your beliefs, not because you supported the other guy, not because Joe Biden is president right now,” but because of the facts of the case, and his actions before, during and after Jan. 6.


“You are not a political prisoner, Mr. Rhodes,” he said.'

 

Again, if the judge wanted to make that claim, he should have chosen different words. His words underlie the final result. His words agree with the prosecution. Indeed "the facts of the case, and his actions, before, during and after Jan 6.". Then there's the case of Meggs, which puts the final coffin on whether or not politics was involved in Rhodes's sentence:

He claims Meggs is different because he wasn't some sort of repeat offender, a grandfather, a husband, and all other kinds of nonsense that have nothing to do with "the facts of the case".

The fact of the matter is, it's a political judgment, with no regards for the facts of the case other than to make examples of the defendants(hell, he even said as much later on.)

 

Indeed it is. The speech sounds exactly like something that Schumer or Pelosi would say. Surely nobody can deny that they are political.

 

All the same buzzwords. Threat, peril, country, republic, fabric of democracy, etc. Now where have we heard that before? Clown world!

 

I'll also add that if anyone really doubts that the FBI and DOJ have become weaponized on behalf of the Democrat party, just watch some of the recent hearings run by Jordan and company. Democrats raising holy hell in those hearings running cover for the corrupt bastards. The venom that they spew toward the witnesses is eye opening to say the least. The fact that they instinctively defend the perps tells ya all you need to know about this subject. If the allegations were not true, it would be a bi partisan effort to weed out corruption. They are telling us by their actions that they know it is true.

 

“You are not a political prisoner, Mr. Rhodes,” he said.'

 

Rhodes is not a "political prisoner"
Rhodes was prosecuted for his actions NOT his beliefs.

Rhodes:
"I'd like to start by just saying that I'm a political prisoner, and like President Trump, my only crime is opposing those who are destroying our country,"