Slavic legion

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  1. Potap

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    Russian ambassador to NATO Dmitry Rogozin has sounded the idea of creation in Russia a foreign legion. He has sounded his idea in the talk with Minister of Defence of Russia Anatoly Serdukov.

    By the words of ambassador, talk is about creation in structure of Russian Armed forces the military divisions consisting not from citizens of Russian Federation, by a principle of French Foreign legion. According to D. Rogozin's plan, it will be Slavic legion which could include Serbs, Bulgarians and and citizens of other Slavic countries who want to serve in Russian army, perhaps with an eye to future Russian citizenship. And with the possibility of a simplified citizenship.
     
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    Your politicians are idiots, except some Kosovo Serbs, poor African and Asian people nobody need your citizenship.Bulgarians are EU Members, Serbia will became one in a couple of years. If you invite a Pole, Czech, Slovak or somebody else to serve in your Army he would laugh ten hours long.It is very difficult to believe that Ukrainians or Withe Russians desire to die for Putin too.:mrgreen:
     
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    Russia is so rich for comedians.
     
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    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately Russia posses very dumb comedians.
     
  5. Potap

    Potap Well-Known Member

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    Just a few figures. Now in Russia lives 13,6 millions immigrants. 325 foreign citizens serve now in Russian army.
     
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    Do not worry you're not invited to Slavic Legion. Russia has no so much money to pay such high-priced clown.
     
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    The "idea" does initially seem pretty high on the all time lunacy list , but it might be prompted by the some serious concerns :-
    The Russian conscript system does not work and even Russia itself came very close to ending it two years ago .The initial fiasco in South Ossetia in '08 was the last straw for HQ .
    There is an unbelievably corrupt and unwieldly Army Officer class which again Russia recognises but they nearly had a revolution on their hands when they proposed sacking one third of them !! Literally.
    There is an overall shortage of men -- huge problem of an immense population decline .
    Great worries about the Federation splintering which is driving Gazprom HQ mad with worry.
    In theory a "Slavic Legion" addresses the need to produce an elite of well ordered and equipped soldiers who can hold the Federation together and act as a blueprint for updating a seriously out of date and badly equipped existing mess of an Army .
    If you think I am being harsh , read General Makarov's report made to the Kremlin ( Gazprom HQ )
     
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    If the West have the best immigrants, Russia attracts only the worst scum of the former USSR. Most of those need Russian papers only for transit to the Western countries.Almost all of this "foreign citizens" are citizens of the poorest countries the former USSR.
     
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    Your officials are dumb idiots, if you post your story in a Western country the readers will laugh without End. Even Ukraine and Withe Russia fled from you, millions of your citizens are packing their luggage ( PORA WALIT ) and go to Airports, and you dream to attract Bulgarian, Poles, Czechs in your desolated "Army" with Judashkin Uniform and Highly Rates of Crime?:mrgreen:


    Even for Africans or Cannibals is your "Army" not attractive.
     
  10. LenaSrb

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    Let's wait and see what will happen... From what I know, Slovaks are very pro-Slavic, Serbs as well. Many former citizens of the Soviet Union used a special provision law to obtain a Russian citizenship and applied before 2009.
     
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    not the very high numbers, maybe Dmitry Rogozin should fix the Russian army first ? make it popular etc.
     
  12. Potap

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    This is one of ways to fix the Russian army too. The position of army improves, since the next year they'll get the big increase to the salary. Drunk Yeltsin's orgy cannot be overcome for 10-15 years. It is long process. 325 persons are not the very high numbers. But it is a battalion already under the Russian standards. Though modern Russia still did not do a purposeful policy on engaging of foreigners in army. Russia has a long history of engaging of foreigners on military service. Already Ivan the III at the second half of XV century had foreigners at service: Germans, Lithuanians, Scots even Irishs. Foreigners in the beginning of XVII century helped to create so-called "Regiments of the new style" - the prototype of modern army. I think this is good idea. But this is still just idea.
     
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    We already have immigrants from the USA and the Western Europe. Mainly they are businessmen which have here own business. And the stream of Russian immigrants to the West is many times more than a stream of the western immigrants to Russia. So you are right the majority they are immigrants from the countries of CIS. But the world is changing.
     
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    You need to use the Caucasus Mountain Men yet again .
    Whom did Putin call in to save the humilation suffered by the Russian Army in south Ossetia in August 2008?
    It was the Vostock Brigade --- Chechen mercenaries nominally under the command of Kadyrov , but obliged to do as they were told as they had not been paid for several months .
     
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    To 99 % former Russians

    And pay more as 70 % as bribes.

    That's true


    If Putin "rule" again even CIS - Immigrants will avoid Russia.
     
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    Only Serbs are the true friends of Russians, although not all.
     
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    2 questions
    1) a good idea from Dmitry Rogozin (an attention whore ) ...are you serious?
    2) why will Belarusians, Bulgarians, Serbs etc. choose Russian legion but not French one
     
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    Dear Ostap,
    I know you prefer those that go under 'although not all' group, but what I also know, is that you'll excuse me for following my heart, proudly keeping my chin up and not casting vote for a cash flow as 'not all' are doing.
     
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    Dear Lena,

    unfortunately Russia is still governed by traitors and mafia, otherwise Serbs could get more help and support from Russia.I wish that Kosovo as a Serbian Territory will go to Serbia back, the same is about Kraina and other stolen Serbian Territorials.Medwedew and Putin are enemies of Russian and Serbian people, they hate both countries and want that they will be destroyed.Sorry that so-called "president" ( HaHaHa, a puppet as president) medwedew rejected appliance of Kosovo serbs for the Russian citizenship.
     
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    There are almost no one intellectual politicians in Russia because Kremlin afraid concurrence and "eliminated" all good brains. Do not be amazing, you will hear more and more idiotic suggestions from Russia in the future, this country is governed by idiots.
     
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    Speaking about immigrants I mean real immigrants, I do not mean Russians which have come back.
     
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    Rogozin just has sounded it. But this is not something new. Mercenaries participated almost in all wars. What is wrong? Even khan Mamai had the Genoa mercenaries on the Battle of Kulikovo.

    Why everyone should choose French foreign legion. Is France the center of the universe?
     
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    What kind of help and support are you suggesting Russia should provide to Serbs?
    Kosovo was, is and will be Serbia. Serbs from our Southern Province of Kosovo and Metohija are on a barricades for a months now, clashing with NATO forces, but not taking a single step back.
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    Kosovo Force (KFOR) soldiers from Germany and Austria spray tear gas towards Kosovo Serbs during clashes in the village of Jagnjenica near the town of Zubin Potok November 28, 2011.

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    Kosovo Serb women sit on the road in front of Austrian NATO-led KFOR peacekeepers near the village of Jagnjenica on November 30, 2011.

    It's alright 'cause no one expected Russia to grant a citizenship to them, while it was just a protest against Serbian government and their damaging activities.

    Montenegrin IDPs from Kosovo and Metohija, and Montenegrin who are still fighting for their survival in Kosovo are ready to apply for a Russian citizenship too.
    http://www.tanjug.rs/novosti/25757/raseljeni-u-crnoj-gori-trazice-rusko-drzavljanstvo.htm
     
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    1. Cheap Gas and other commodities.
    2. Tax free trade.
    3. Support with money
    4. Political support.
    5. Military support.
    6. Help against gangs of Muslims
    7. Political support by return of all stolen by Serbs territorials.

    Brainless dumb Clinton's Demoncrats destroyed the Serbian state and instead of installed two Muslim Fundamentalist Criminal "states" like Bosnia and Kosovo.
     
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    The idea of a Slavic Legion is just silly.

    The comparison with France's Foreign Legion is crazy too.

    French Republic stands for something: Liberté, Egalité et Fraternité!

    Russian Federation = Gas, Oil and Vodka?! I don't know. :???:

    France's Foreign Legion:

    Many people join France's Foreign Legion to become French citizen.

    Who on Earth -- and this isn't meant to be disrespectful -- but we all know that Russia's position on economic field isn't the best. Russia doesn't even have full free education and universal healthcare -- not to mention the corruption!

    Why would a Serb want to join this Slavic Legion? To trade the plague with the cholera?!
     

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