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Not for life saving procedures. More for cosmetic or elective procedures.

 

reorient a big chunk of the military industrial complex into a space based industrial complex. But that's just a wet dream of mine.

 

Also not true, in Canada and mexico many major procedures are often way cheaper. Then there are the thousands who come for cheap drugs such as diabetics living close to the border come over regularly to buy their life sustaining insulin for a 80% discount.

 

Well no kidding, we have 50 million people receiving SS- take away SS and Medicare and the numbers are a lot closer. We are not facing a major legitimate challenge. This isn't the 70s and 80s before the fall of communism when we had to go toe to toe with the USSR. Hell our biggest challange is our biggest trade partner and we don't even see the problem with transferring 350 bill a year to them so we can have "stuff".

 

Yeah, maybe the rich do as we have the lowest tax rates for rich people. But our middle class tax rates after SS are high.

 

Bless them let them have it and find out that an empire is not what it is cracked up to be. See the USSR.
The dems on this board are willing to keep giving them 350 bill every year.

 

My solution is a 30% tax rate with 1- 5% deduction for a 401k, no other deductions, I exemption for the federal poverty level, no SS and medicare for all. No corporate tax. We have 15 trill in income, so this raises 4.5 trill which is more than what is taken in now in income, ss and corporate tax. After 40 years of work everyone gets a retirement income of 1.5X the poverty level.

A family of 4 making 75,000 a year (20% more than national avg of 61.5) gets a 25,000 exemption, and say he puts 4,000 in his 401K he has a taxable income of 46,000 x 30% or $14,000. but he gets his family health coverage and does not have to pay SS. When he and his wife retire they get an income of 25,000 a year. Plus what ever they save in their 401K.

No corporate tax, but all income is taxed at the 30% no 15% capital gains stuff. income is income. and no more complaints from the rich that they are being double taxed. American Corporations are now freed from having to pay corporate tax, $6-10,000 a year in health benefits, and 9% in SS and medicare tax for every employee. Why go to Mexico now?

Everyone pays the same tax rate, everyone gets the same retirement benefit and everyone gets the same health insurance. (unless they want to purchase a supplemental policy) From a husband and wife making 12 bucks each to a millionaire.

 

I never said anything about cost. I said the people from the US who go abroad for medical care are getting elective/cosmetic surgeries

 

just off hand, do you think America has the best healthcare infrastructure due to the money we spend on healthcare or because we have for profit health insurance companies that take give out 85 cents in payments for every dollar they take in?

If so, how do health insurance companies advance a nations health?

 

Yes, we have the best healthcare money can buy.

 

Well I certainly agree if you mean people with health insurance or medicare or medicaid have access to the best that money can buy.

Having a Benz dealership down the road, does nothing for the guy making $40,000 grand does it.

 

Again, when did that happen to Tibet?

 

do you really know that little of world history?

I cant believe it

Anyway the year was 1949

 

Independent evaluations of health care quality rank almost every universal system, including Canada's, above the US.

 

Exactly....70 years ago. Which goes to my point that the days of world powers invading and conquering other countries are over. Walked you right into that one.
Now tell me the last time a world power invaded and conquered another world power.

 

I feel safe, prosperous and, when Democrats are not controlling any part of our government, I feel we are stable. I do agree that we need to shift the burden of defending Europe to Europeans. They have gotten so lax with the US defending them that they opened their doors to being overrun by medieval cultures that will never adapt, but rather burn down symbols of European history and culture.

When we get lax, Russia invades and annexes parts of Ukraine, China builds militarized Islands in the South China Sea, and North Korea launches tactical nuclear missiles to practice attacking our country.

As long as we engage in commerce, we need to maintain a strong military. We learned that in the early 1800's and fought the Barbary Wars to defeat the ancestors of the same terrorists that we are faced with today after lax administrations destroyed our deterrent.

 

You walked no on nowhere

Compared to the history of china 70 years is just the blink of an eye

But even at chinas height as an empire it did nit invade and occupy every country it ruled over

Korea for instance

At this moment china is “invading” and “occupying” territory not its own in the South China Sea

And it will use its military power to hold that territory

 

Hahaha...uh huh. "Invading" and "occupying"...right

 

Yes

Building an artificisl island so that china can claim all the waters around the island

And then putiing missiles and warplanes on the island is aggression against its neighbors and the world

 

So the last example you can provide of a country invading and conquering another country is 70 years ago. Got it.

And again I'll ask...when's the last time a world power invaded and conquered another world power?

 

It simply doesn't happen any more as the graph below shows. And the reasons are economic, not military. There's no gain possible by conquering geography. Economic health is improved by trading with developed nations, not going to war with them.



Based on the trend above military spending should be decreasing.

 

I have never claimed that china intends to occupy every nation

So you got nuthin’

 

And I never claimed you did claim that. Talk about nuthin'...hahaha
So again...70 years ago is your last example, right???

 

Yes

For china military force is always the last resort

But they can use other means to dominate to the point of owning other countries

You are grimly holding onto the claim that tibet was too long ago to count anymore

And you couldnt be more wrong

 

Sure thing