Some Politically Incorrect Thoughts About "Cancel Culture"

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  1. Thunderbolt

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    I absolutely detest "cancel culture", but the criticism of it is (largely) wrong either.

    They will NEVER cancel Homer for bellicism, Virgil for imperialism, Chaucer for AntiSemitism, Avicenna for racism, Voltaire for Islamophobia, Socrates for misogyny, Rousseau for homophobia and Dante for all of this!

    Because these individuals and their works are no integral parts of American culture and civilisation.

    Because cancelling them will not one more time paint the USA as "homophobic, bellicistic, imperialist, racist" country, will not pill different communities against each other (and all of them against the Jews), will not bring America closer to the worst civil war in the human history, with tens of millions being butchered in cold blood just for the “crime” of being white or black or Asian or Latino or Catholic or Protestant or Orthodox or Mormon or non-Christian or LBGT - and with Jews caught between the fronts murdered for being either "too white" or "not white enough"!

    Please, don't misunderstand - I don't support "cancelling" Dante Alighieri, I just oppose "cancelling" George Washington and Dr. Seuss!
     
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    I've grown way past tired of this nonsense. I first heard the term last summer. Living people were publically shamed for not saying "black lives matter" and other silly "offenses." Call it boycott by social media.

    Now, cancel culture includes dead people, children's cartoon characters and potatoes. It's gotten out of hand. What's next? Cancelling checks? Cancelling Netflix?
     
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    No.
    The next could be the obliteration of the USA - and the second Holocaust!

    Remember Louis Farrakhan screaming in Tehran: "Death to Zionist regime! Death to Great Satan!", after having told a bit earlier "I am black Hitler... Hitler was a very great man"
    Why is HE still not "cancelled"?
    Why are the most senior Democrats (from Obama till Raphael Gamaliel Warnock), who have been meeting him, praising him, dining with him are not "cancelled" either?
     
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    I cancelled my ex-wife. I highly recommend this to her current man, and everyone else for that matter.

    I think you missed the gist of my post.
     
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    You consider cancel culture as merely laughable.
    I believe that it is dangerous as well !
     
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    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    I see cancel culture as those protesting that their bad behavior is no longer acceptable. It went from complaining about political correctness to complaining about cancel culture
     
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    I rather see it as those protesting against the Allies' victory in Second World War!
     
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    Cancel culture? Or is it accountability culture? YMMV
     
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    Every action has a reaction, cancel culture is simply a reaction to the oppressive values that have existed in society for so long. When I was a teenager "queer bashing" was an accepted thing, the greatest brit of the 20th century was chemically castrated and committed suicide because he was gay. Unfortunately the reaction is just as wrong as the action.
     
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    NOW you've crossed a line, brother. Don't let your mouth take you where your feet can't bring you back!
     
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    "cancel culture" does not seem to last forever. smothers brothers hosted a pbs fundraising special last week. the brothers were cancelled 50 years ago for anti war sentiment.

    pbs itself is always targeted by rwnjs, which makes conservative defense of the muppets particularly ironic.

    what is cancel culture really about? did you hear the announcers talking over the national anthem at that oklahoma basketball game? talk about respect for the flag!
    "An Oklahoma sports announcer was captured during a livestream directing racial slurs and expletives toward members of a girls' high school basketball team who were kneeling during the national anthem.

    The racist comments came shortly after Norman High basketball players knelt during the playing of the national anthem before a quarterfinal state tournament game against Midwest City at Sapulpa High School in Sapulpa, Oklahoma.


    "F--- them, I hope they lose," one of the announcers can be heard saying, apparently not realizing his microphone was audible on the live broadcast. "They're going to kneel like that? Hell no."

    High school sports announcer caught calling girls' basketball team racial slur as players kneel during anthem - ABC News (go.com)
     
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    The problem with cancel culture is when it utilizes censorship. 'This is bad' is legitimate speech from emotionally healthy activists. 'This should not be viewed' is the oppression of speech by emotionally stunted authoritarians. Don't tear down the statue, move it to a museum that highlights the bigotry that led to its creation. Don't block the media, create an expose of the negative societal conditions under which it was prosperous. Creating is good. Destroying is bad. Knowledge is power. Ignorance breeds repetition of mistakes. Banning an idea from the free marketplace of ideas is merely an admission that you can't come up with a better one.
     
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    Well, I don't oppose accountability cultury.
    Why is Louis Farrakhan still not held accountable (and cancelled) for his decades-long anti-Semitic, anti-American, anti-white, anti-women, anti-gay, anti-Arab hysteria?
    Why the most senior Democratic politicians praising him, meeting him, dining with him (from Obama till Warnock) are not held accountable (and cancelled) either?

     
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    Or maybe another example:

    In the USA there are twelve (!) towns as well as innumerable streets, parks and facilities named after an individual named Napoleon Bonaparte, who has not just drawn a few cartoons allegedly affected by racial stereotypes (like Dr. Seuss), not just opposed the immediate abolishment of black slavery (like General Lee), not “just” restored the black slavery in the French colonies (already abolished seven years before his ascension to power), but committed a bloody genocide of the Afro-Caribeans, who were opposing this “restoration” !


    http://islandluminous.fiu.edu/part02-slide13.html


    Why not renaming these places – for instance after the black Medal of Honor recipients or the black police officers, killed by the white gangsters ?
    Maybe because Napoleon was a French dictator / Emperor rather than a popular (and patriotic) US writer?

    Maybe because this renaming would not one more time paint America as “racist country”, would not pit blacks against whites and vice versa, would not bring the USA closer to the civil war?
     
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    Yesterday they cancelled the Founding Fathers, today they are cancelling Dr. Seuss, tomorrow they will outrightly cancel the USA!
     
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    What is your mileage on the case where a law professor was fired for accurately pointing out that the worst students in her classes were all black?

    Is that accountability or suppression of truth?
     
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    Cancel culture is the result of political correctness. Cancel culture is the noxious idea that every one who will not kiss the woke left's ass must be destroyed.
     
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    I haven't heard of this. I'm curious. Did she like make those students stand and told the rest of the class that they were the worst? Or did she "point it out" by giving some students an F and they all happened to be black? It matters. If it was the first, hurting people's feelings deliberately is never ok. If it was the latter, then too bad, suck it up.
     
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    It was in a private conversation recorded on zoom and somehow leaked.
     
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    Oh. They do seem to do that, don't they? I am unsure why so many people don't seem to know that anything you say through technology will eventually come back to haunt you.
     
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    The only redeeming quality about things created by the Left is, like Frankenstein's monster, they eventually turn on their creators.
     
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    Cancel Culture is selective and that is why it is wrong. To avoid that.......we have freedom!
    It's like the me too movement. Cuomo flew it's banner until it began to cancel him!
     
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    And it would still be buried had Cuomo not tried to cover up his mishandling of the the covid crisis in New York.That's really embarrassing to Democrats who praised his handling of covid before they discovered he was a complete screw up so now they are trying to ditch him over other matters before the egg on their own faces becomes to obvious.
     
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    Probably not, but not for the reason you suggest, it's just a matter of ignorance. People only complain about things when they find out about them.

    You seem to be presuming this is a uniquely American issue. With that kind of nationalist arrogance, maybe American culture and civilisation could stand a little change. ;)

    And declaring that anyone you accuse of engaging in cancel culture of being guilty of all of this is any better? You're just trying to cancel "cancel culture". :cool:
     

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